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Barrett808
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Tue Mar-25-08 02:02 PM Original message |
Antarctic ice shelf collapses in runaway disintegration, putting larger area at risk |
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hatrack
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Tue Mar-25-08 02:05 PM Response to Original message |
1. Oops! |
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gasperc
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Tue Mar-25-08 02:10 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. and the new conventional wisdom |
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Baby Snooks
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Tue Mar-25-08 02:16 PM Response to Reply #3 |
8. The only candidate talking about global warming |
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elocs
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Tue Mar-25-08 02:21 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. Gore is a candidate? Did I miss the announcement? n/t |
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gasperc
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Tue Mar-25-08 02:26 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. some 'supers' talk about it |
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Prophet 451
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Tue Mar-25-08 02:44 PM Response to Reply #12 |
21. This Obama-supporter would love it |
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pokercat999
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Tue Mar-25-08 05:12 PM Response to Reply #21 |
57. Especially with Obama as VP.....instant winner |
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Tesha
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Wed Mar-26-08 02:32 PM Response to Reply #57 |
160. A hearty "Yes!" to both of those ideas! (NT) |
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Prophet 451
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Wed Mar-26-08 02:45 PM Response to Reply #57 |
162. Perfect ticket |
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tavalon
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Tue Mar-25-08 05:35 PM Response to Reply #21 |
65. Me too |
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Prophet 451
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Wed Mar-26-08 01:52 PM Response to Reply #65 |
156. Me neither but it's a nice dream n/t |
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ryanmuegge
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Tue Mar-25-08 08:02 PM Response to Reply #21 |
94. Speaking of global warming and Obama |
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emmadoggy
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Tue Mar-25-08 11:34 PM Response to Reply #94 |
120. ITA. |
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Ilsa
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Tue Mar-25-08 08:04 PM Response to Reply #21 |
95. Me fifty-millionth (I hope). |
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elocs
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Tue Mar-25-08 03:00 PM Response to Reply #12 |
23. That would upset any of us who voted for candidates who bothered to work and campaign |
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EstimatedProphet
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Tue Mar-25-08 07:57 PM Response to Reply #11 |
92. You mean you didn't know? |
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Voice for Peace
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Tue Mar-25-08 02:35 PM Response to Reply #8 |
15. Obama is also talking about global warming. |
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laconicsax
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Tue Mar-25-08 11:23 PM Response to Reply #15 |
119. Thank Cronus he's going to curb CO2 emissions by 2050! After that, it may be too late! |
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DaLittle Kitty
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Tue Mar-25-08 04:20 PM Response to Reply #8 |
43. WRONG!!!!!!!!!! John Edwards Was ALL Over Global Warming! Where Was Al Gore To ENDORSE John Edwards |
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iris5426
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Tue Mar-25-08 06:17 PM Response to Reply #43 |
77. Yup. |
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SammyWinstonJack
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Wed Mar-26-08 09:06 AM Response to Reply #43 |
142. Every single day, I wish Edwards hadn't dropped out. So sick of this HillBama nonsense! |
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bdamomma
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Wed Mar-26-08 01:29 PM Response to Reply #142 |
154. I wish he stayed in too, but our media manipulates |
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kwenu
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Tue Mar-25-08 04:39 PM Response to Reply #8 |
48. I don't think it is mathematically possible for Gore to ever become the nominee. |
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frogcycle
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Tue Mar-25-08 05:13 PM Response to Reply #48 |
58. second round |
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kwenu
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Wed Mar-26-08 02:34 AM Response to Reply #58 |
133. Wrong. People voted. |
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dysfunctional press
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Wed Mar-26-08 09:24 AM Response to Reply #133 |
143. wrong. people voted for the FIRST round of voting. |
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kwenu
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Wed Mar-26-08 11:00 AM Response to Reply #143 |
145. Thems may be the rules but the people will get the final say. There is a price to pay. |
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dysfunctional press
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Wed Mar-26-08 11:01 AM Response to Reply #145 |
146. then you can't be a democrat. |
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kwenu
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Wed Mar-26-08 01:54 PM Response to Reply #146 |
157. My voter registration card says otherwise. |
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frogcycle
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Wed Mar-26-08 02:28 PM Response to Reply #157 |
158. but you yourself said otherwise |
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kwenu
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Wed Mar-26-08 03:10 PM Response to Reply #158 |
163. The point is that's my choice not yours. And who asked you. |
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dysfunctional press
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Wed Mar-26-08 04:28 PM Response to Reply #163 |
167. we've noticed... |
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frogcycle
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Wed Mar-26-08 02:29 PM Response to Reply #48 |
159. read history |
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kwenu
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Wed Mar-26-08 03:15 PM Response to Reply #159 |
164. If you knew history, you would understand why Gore as the nominee is a complete joke. |
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frogcycle
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Wed Mar-26-08 03:20 PM Response to Reply #164 |
165. I know history |
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kwenu
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Wed Mar-26-08 03:25 PM Response to Reply #165 |
166. I'm not particularly sensitive so I'm good. |
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burrowowl
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Tue Mar-25-08 09:29 PM Response to Reply #8 |
107. Kucinch talked about it |
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OwnedByFerrets
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Tue Mar-25-08 04:46 PM Response to Reply #1 |
49. Dont forget Paris in Africa.... |
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Dukkha
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Tue Mar-25-08 04:52 PM Response to Reply #1 |
50. looks like you're validated by the replies |
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hatrack
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Tue Mar-25-08 05:13 PM Response to Reply #50 |
60. Yowza - you nailed it . . . |
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Rockholm
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Tue Mar-25-08 05:09 PM Response to Reply #1 |
55. So much hate. What's wrong with you? |
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sandyj999
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Tue Mar-25-08 06:01 PM Response to Reply #1 |
74. delete |
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nam78_two
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Tue Mar-25-08 10:27 PM Response to Reply #1 |
113. Yup (and not only from the MSM anymore either sadly).nt |
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XemaSab
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Tue Mar-25-08 10:33 PM Response to Reply #1 |
117. How did I know we'd be seeing you outside of E/E? |
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truthisfreedom
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Tue Mar-25-08 02:05 PM Response to Original message |
2. We need estimates on how much that will raise sea level. |
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gasperc
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Tue Mar-25-08 02:14 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. that will happen painfully slowly |
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truebrit71
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Tue Mar-25-08 02:15 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. Hmmm...no so sure about the slowly part...there will be lots of pain though... |
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Voice for Peace
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Tue Mar-25-08 02:37 PM Response to Reply #4 |
16. I'm sorry about Florida but overall I am glad that Nature wins. nt |
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Dr.Phool
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Tue Mar-25-08 03:20 PM Response to Reply #16 |
28. On the bright side, we won't be able to screw up any more elections. |
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Voice for Peace
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Tue Mar-25-08 03:25 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. true.. if something's got to go, might as well be Florida. |
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jimnasium
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Tue Mar-25-08 03:47 PM Response to Reply #28 |
35. Even better.... |
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Tesha
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Wed Mar-26-08 02:36 PM Response to Reply #28 |
161. I dunno, I can see a sort of "Waterworld" marshaled together and floating above Katherine Harris's |
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Voice for Peace
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Tue Mar-25-08 02:37 PM Response to Reply #4 |
17. Duplicate, delete |
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Uncle Joe
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Tue Mar-25-08 02:42 PM Response to Reply #4 |
19. I believe it will come in fits and starts, what seems slow for a while, |
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Gonnuts
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Tue Mar-25-08 10:32 PM Response to Reply #19 |
116. Can't fool Mother Nature |
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truebrit71
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Tue Mar-25-08 02:14 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. As the article states this particular event shouldn't have any effect because it's already floating. |
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Baby Snooks
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Tue Mar-25-08 02:19 PM Response to Reply #5 |
10. It already is having an impact |
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iris5426
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Tue Mar-25-08 06:20 PM Response to Reply #10 |
78. Of course. |
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defendandprotect
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Tue Mar-25-08 08:19 PM Response to Reply #10 |
99. Is there anyone left anywhere who believes what the GOP says . . . ??? |
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defendandprotect
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Tue Mar-25-08 08:22 PM Response to Reply #99 |
102. Wake up, America to suicidal patriarchy and our suicidal oil industry --- !!! |
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defendandprotect
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Tue Mar-25-08 08:38 PM Response to Reply #10 |
104. Right . .. the mixing of salt and fresh water changes the currents . . . |
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magellan
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Tue Mar-25-08 11:14 PM Response to Reply #104 |
118. Could be |
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defendandprotect
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Tue Mar-25-08 11:48 PM Response to Reply #118 |
124. An excellent book on this is "Song for a Blue Ocean" by Carl Safina . .. |
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magellan
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Wed Mar-26-08 12:02 AM Response to Reply #124 |
129. Thanks, it sounds brilliant |
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DCKit
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Tue Mar-25-08 03:05 PM Response to Reply #5 |
24. As the floating ice shelves collapse, the glaciers behind them move more quickly. |
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truebrit71
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Tue Mar-25-08 03:17 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. I agree...the process just accelerates exponentially... |
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Tue Mar-25-08 03:47 PM Response to Reply #24 |
36. As the article also says, this shelf isn't holding any land glaciers back. |
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lapfog_1
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Tue Mar-25-08 04:28 PM Response to Reply #24 |
44. Worse, as the glaciers start to move |
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defendandprotect
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Tue Mar-25-08 11:54 PM Response to Reply #44 |
126. We probably are "out of time" . . . because the destruction of nature by |
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HooptieWagon
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Tue Mar-25-08 07:29 PM Response to Reply #5 |
89. I have a hard time believing |
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HooptieWagon
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Tue Mar-25-08 08:09 PM Response to Reply #89 |
98. Update - yeah, the numbers make sense |
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Ilsa
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Tue Mar-25-08 08:05 PM Response to Reply #2 |
96. One of the articles said no impact: |
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PaulaFarrell
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Tue Mar-25-08 02:15 PM Response to Original message |
6. kick n/t |
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hatrack
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Tue Mar-25-08 02:18 PM Response to Original message |
9. K&R |
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fascisthunter
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Tue Mar-25-08 02:28 PM Response to Original message |
13. There Goes a Big Portion of Florida(nt) |
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slackmaster
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Tue Mar-25-08 03:07 PM Response to Reply #13 |
25. Ice shelves melting don't raise sea level much |
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Tue Mar-25-08 03:19 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. Floating ice shelves are the dams holding back the land glaciers. |
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slackmaster
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Tue Mar-25-08 03:28 PM Response to Reply #27 |
32. Correct |
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Subdivisions
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Tue Mar-25-08 04:07 PM Response to Reply #27 |
41. It is already happening |
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fascisthunter
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Tue Mar-25-08 05:09 PM Response to Reply #27 |
54. Exactly (nt) |
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Virginia Dare
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Wed Mar-26-08 11:15 AM Response to Reply #27 |
147. What does that mean? |
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fascisthunter
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Tue Mar-25-08 05:11 PM Response to Reply #25 |
56. I Know But They Hold Back Tons of Ice |
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Night_Nurse
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Wed Mar-26-08 07:36 AM Response to Reply #13 |
136. natural selection :-) n/t |
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Uncle Joe
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Tue Mar-25-08 02:32 PM Response to Original message |
14. This will only increase the dynamic of global warming |
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FREEWILL56
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Tue Mar-25-08 03:43 PM Response to Reply #14 |
34. Most people would say that does not matter as |
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Uncle Joe
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Tue Mar-25-08 03:58 PM Response to Reply #34 |
39. Except, |
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leftchick
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Tue Mar-25-08 05:14 PM Response to Reply #39 |
61. I find some sort of divine justice in the loss of DC |
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Uncle Joe
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Tue Mar-25-08 05:29 PM Response to Reply #61 |
63. I would find divine justice in people like Limbaugh, and Inhofe's homes being flooded out except |
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leftchick
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Tue Mar-25-08 08:08 PM Response to Reply #63 |
97. I don't like any of them |
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Creideiki
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Tue Mar-25-08 11:42 PM Response to Reply #97 |
123. I like the Lincoln Memorial, |
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Uncle Joe
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Wed Mar-26-08 01:22 PM Response to Reply #97 |
153. Well I would |
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Pastiche423
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Tue Mar-25-08 05:44 PM Response to Reply #39 |
68. Ben Franklin said that |
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Uncle Joe
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Tue Mar-25-08 05:46 PM Response to Reply #68 |
69. Thanks Pastiche, I knew it was somebody related to the Revolution. |
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Pastiche423
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Tue Mar-25-08 05:52 PM Response to Reply #69 |
73. You're welcome |
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FREEWILL56
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Wed Mar-26-08 12:50 PM Response to Reply #39 |
151. Send that to those self-indulging idiots in DC. |
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Uncle Joe
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Wed Mar-26-08 01:12 PM Response to Reply #151 |
152. I believe there is more than one baby |
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FREEWILL56
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Wed Mar-26-08 01:49 PM Response to Reply #152 |
155. Point well made. |
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defendandprotect
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Tue Mar-25-08 08:42 PM Response to Reply #14 |
105. ....and it is impossible for anyone to say how this will all compound . . . |
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northernsoul
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Tue Mar-25-08 02:40 PM Response to Original message |
18. K&R: we R fuct |
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Stuart G
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Tue Mar-25-08 04:32 PM Response to Reply #18 |
46. Say it ain't so...Shoeless Joe.. |
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Prophet 451
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Tue Mar-25-08 02:42 PM Response to Original message |
20. Global warming doesn't exist! |
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lostnotforgotten
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Tue Mar-25-08 02:52 PM Response to Original message |
22. Just Imagine What The Next Ice Age Will Be Like! |
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hatrack
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Tue Mar-25-08 03:22 PM Response to Original message |
29. Satellite imagery from NSIDC - collapse took eight days |
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dixiegrrrrl
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Tue Mar-25-08 03:28 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. nicely done...ty for pic |
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Barrett808
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Tue Mar-25-08 04:06 PM Response to Reply #29 |
40. Nice, thank you for the photos. n/t |
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Tue Mar-25-08 03:31 PM Response to Original message |
33. Gulp! |
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lebkuchen
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Tue Mar-25-08 03:49 PM Response to Original message |
37. Is it patriotic to believe in scientists under this administration? |
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HockeyMom
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Tue Mar-25-08 03:52 PM Response to Original message |
38. The past 30 years have gotten significantly warmer |
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emmadoggy
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Tue Mar-25-08 04:09 PM Response to Original message |
42. SHIT. |
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Chisox08
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Tue Mar-25-08 04:31 PM Response to Original message |
45. I couldn't worry my beautiful mind on global warming. |
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SammyWinstonJack
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Thu Mar-27-08 09:53 AM Response to Reply #45 |
170. ... |
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balantz
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Tue Mar-25-08 04:37 PM Response to Original message |
47. Never mind all that! Who cares? |
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happygoluckytoyou
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Tue Mar-25-08 04:56 PM Response to Original message |
51. GEORGE BUSH HERE WITH THE REAL STORY----> |
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SammyWinstonJack
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Thu Mar-27-08 09:57 AM Response to Reply #51 |
171. ... |
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End Of The Road
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Tue Mar-25-08 05:00 PM Response to Original message |
52. PAULA ABDUL HERE WITH THE REAL STORY |
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here_is_to_hope
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Tue Mar-25-08 06:33 PM Response to Reply #52 |
80. *snicker* n/t |
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liberal texan
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Tue Mar-25-08 05:02 PM Response to Original message |
53. ITS A NATURAL CYCLE |
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darue
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Tue Mar-25-08 11:55 PM Response to Reply #53 |
127. yep, species craps in it's own backyard too long, spices dies off. perfectly natural cycle. |
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Tue Mar-25-08 05:13 PM Response to Original message |
59. Even now they are still in denial the Scientists |
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Zachstar
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Tue Mar-25-08 05:39 PM Response to Reply #59 |
67. The REAL timelines will cause global panic. |
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lovuian
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Tue Mar-25-08 05:49 PM Response to Reply #67 |
72. Ya basicly we are screwed |
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Kurovski
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Tue Mar-25-08 05:16 PM Response to Original message |
62. K&R. (nt) |
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CubicleGuy
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Tue Mar-25-08 05:34 PM Response to Original message |
64. Where the heck is "western" Antarctica? |
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Uncle Joe
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Tue Mar-25-08 05:39 PM Response to Reply #64 |
66. Actually, |
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happyslug
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Tue Mar-25-08 08:22 PM Response to Reply #64 |
101. South of South America, but North of the Antarctic Mountains |
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whistle
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Tue Mar-25-08 05:47 PM Response to Original message |
70. Stunning how rectangular in shape the ice flows appear, it is as though |
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Patriot Abroad
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Tue Mar-25-08 06:57 PM Response to Reply #70 |
84. Conspiracy theory of the day! |
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whistle
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Tue Mar-25-08 10:15 PM Response to Reply #84 |
110. Did you view the video in the OP? The ice breaks look rectangular |
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file83
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Wed Mar-26-08 01:25 AM Response to Reply #110 |
132. Yeah, those breaks were perfect blocks, looks like they were cut with a saw. |
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whistle
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Thu Mar-27-08 05:08 PM Response to Reply #132 |
172. Exactly my point, so from what elevation were the photos taken |
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Zhade
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Tue Mar-25-08 05:47 PM Response to Original message |
71. Anyone who still denies the FACT of human-influenced climate change is a FUCKING IDIOT. |
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Fox Mulder
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Tue Mar-25-08 06:09 PM Response to Original message |
75. We won't be hearing about this on the news. |
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defendandprotect
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Tue Mar-25-08 08:35 PM Response to Reply #75 |
103. Has anyone looked for coverage by the networks . . . ????? |
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happyslug
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Tue Mar-25-08 06:15 PM Response to Original message |
76. This is along the Antarctic Peninsula, not the Ronne or Ross Ice Sheets |
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Tue Mar-25-08 06:43 PM Response to Reply #76 |
83. Wow that's a weird land mass shape... |
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Trillo
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Tue Mar-25-08 06:32 PM Response to Original message |
79. 64 Meter Sea Level rise. |
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happyslug
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Tue Mar-25-08 06:40 PM Response to Reply #79 |
82. That is only if the East Antarctic Ice Sheets melts, and that will take decades. |
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Patriot Abroad
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Tue Mar-25-08 06:58 PM Response to Reply #79 |
85. Woohoo! |
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and-justice-for-all
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Tue Mar-25-08 06:34 PM Response to Original message |
81. LIBERAL LIES!!!! |
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superconnected
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Tue Mar-25-08 07:07 PM Response to Original message |
86. Wrong thread, |
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Joey Liberal
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Tue Mar-25-08 07:09 PM Response to Original message |
87. A Right-Winger's Response! |
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kineneb
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Tue Mar-25-08 09:39 PM Response to Reply #87 |
108. reply: Gee, it doesn't look like... |
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leftrightwingnut
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Wed Mar-26-08 02:58 AM Response to Reply #87 |
134. Noah couldn't find anyone who wanted a ride in his ark until it was too late. |
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Thor_MN
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Tue Mar-25-08 07:18 PM Response to Original message |
88. Damn Activist Ice Shelves. |
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ellie
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Tue Mar-25-08 07:39 PM Response to Original message |
90. I read this and feel so helpless |
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Delphinus
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Wed Mar-26-08 06:42 AM Response to Reply #90 |
135. Ellie, |
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Virginia Dare
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Wed Mar-26-08 11:21 AM Response to Reply #135 |
148. Agreed, these are things we should have been doing long ago.. |
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Lint Head
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Tue Mar-25-08 07:44 PM Response to Original message |
91. Rusty Limpballs says that it's cow farts causing this. |
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greenman3610
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Tue Mar-25-08 07:59 PM Response to Original message |
93. is anyone able to rip that video at |
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darue
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Tue Mar-25-08 11:51 PM Response to Reply #93 |
125. yes |
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defendandprotect
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Tue Mar-25-08 08:20 PM Response to Original message |
100. Btw, Manhattan Island is approx. 4 miles wide and 11 miles long --- X 9 . . . |
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RestoreGore
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Tue Mar-25-08 08:44 PM Response to Original message |
106. So what? This isn't important... |
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Tue Mar-25-08 10:01 PM Response to Original message |
109. Just stopped by ABC which is doing a story on collapse; after Mega Millions/ads . . .. |
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Tue Mar-25-08 10:25 PM Response to Reply #109 |
112. BBC . . . presume from earlier this evening . . . . |
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Tue Mar-25-08 11:39 PM Response to Reply #112 |
122. It won't effect sea levels because it's sea-based ice |
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Tue Mar-25-08 11:57 PM Response to Reply #122 |
128. That's not the point . . . it was a very brief acknowlegment of what happened --- |
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Tue Mar-25-08 10:17 PM Response to Original message |
111. What is astounding is how much faster this is happening than even the worst case models showed. |
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Tue Mar-25-08 10:30 PM Response to Reply #111 |
115. NO -- they've been reporting the truth of this all along . . . the Pentagon has warned Bush |
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Thu Mar-27-08 09:29 AM Response to Reply #111 |
169. I think the Scientists are LYING |
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nam78_two
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Tue Mar-25-08 10:27 PM Response to Original message |
114. K&R.nt |
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Tue Mar-25-08 11:38 PM Response to Original message |
121. Push -- to make sure that people see this early tomorrow . . . |
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Wed Mar-26-08 12:35 AM Response to Original message |
130. Kick for the late night crowd. |
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Divine Discontent
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Wed Mar-26-08 12:47 AM Response to Original message |
131. ok, call me a conspiracy nut... |
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Nihil
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Wed Mar-26-08 08:06 AM Response to Reply #131 |
137. "You're a conspiracy nut" ... |
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Wed Mar-26-08 08:41 AM Response to Reply #131 |
140. Antarctic shelves like these are tabular ice formations - not all jagged like up North |
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LiberalFighter
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Wed Mar-26-08 08:37 AM Response to Original message |
138. Could increased urbanization caused the global warming? |
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RedEarth
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Wed Mar-26-08 08:40 AM Response to Original message |
139. Link for another article and pictures on this ice shelf |
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Jeffersons Ghost
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Wed Mar-26-08 08:56 AM Response to Original message |
141. K&R... it's simply a matter of when not if major climate change will occur on a planetary scale |
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Wed Mar-26-08 10:15 AM Response to Original message |
144. Like watching a giant T-bone steak disappearing down ....... |
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Hugh109
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Wed Mar-26-08 12:11 PM Response to Original message |
149. The Republicans have Lied to Us. |
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Wed Mar-26-08 12:27 PM Response to Original message |
150. Who cares? Didja hear about Pricilla Presley? |
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Thu Mar-27-08 01:27 AM Response to Original message |
168. K&R nt. |
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