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RamboLiberal
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Thu Mar-20-08 10:00 AM Original message |
GM: Not Making Hybrid a 'Mistake' |
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CottonBear
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Thu Mar-20-08 10:01 AM Response to Original message |
1. Ya think? |
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redqueen
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Thu Mar-20-08 10:02 AM Response to Reply #1 |
4. Not idiots - evil, greedy criminals. (nt) |
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CottonBear
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Thu Mar-20-08 10:15 AM Response to Reply #4 |
11. True. n/t |
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trotsky
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Thu Mar-20-08 10:19 AM Response to Reply #4 |
14. In this case though, I think the idiocy was more in play. |
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redqueen
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Thu Mar-20-08 10:20 AM Response to Reply #14 |
16. No, that's not greedy, that's taking the long view. |
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krkaufman
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Thu Mar-20-08 11:09 AM Response to Reply #14 |
34. No, they simply wanted to milk the big profit margins of the SUV/truck models |
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yardwork
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Thu Mar-20-08 12:57 PM Response to Reply #34 |
50. They took the money and ran. They made their profits off the SUVs. |
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krkaufman
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Thu Mar-20-08 02:00 PM Response to Reply #50 |
57. Precisely. Short-term plunder ... |
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AndyTiedye
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Thu Mar-20-08 03:17 PM Response to Reply #34 |
64. BushCheney Told Them There Would be Lots of Cheap Gas From Iraq |
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krkaufman
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Thu Mar-20-08 06:49 PM Response to Reply #64 |
68. Well, I definitely think they guessed the cheap gas of the '90s would continue. n/t |
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izquierdista
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Thu Mar-20-08 10:11 AM Response to Reply #1 |
9. A fine pedigree of idiots |
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Manifestor_of_Light
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Thu Mar-20-08 03:13 PM Response to Reply #9 |
63. Roger & Me - December, 1989. |
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Psephos
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Thu Mar-20-08 10:13 AM Response to Reply #1 |
10. Admitting the mistake is the first step away from idiocy. I'm modestly impressed. n/t |
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redqueen
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Thu Mar-20-08 10:02 AM Response to Original message |
2. "And so was killing the electric car you had you nitwits!" |
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xxqqqzme
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Thu Mar-20-08 02:08 PM Response to Reply #2 |
59. My first thought as well. |
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redqueen
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Thu Mar-20-08 03:44 PM Response to Reply #59 |
66. Some here thought they were horrible... |
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fascisthunter
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Thu Mar-20-08 10:02 AM Response to Original message |
3. Yup... Might Wanna Make Smaller Vehicles |
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harmonicon
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Thu Mar-20-08 11:16 AM Response to Reply #3 |
37. they already make them, they just don't sell them in the US |
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fascisthunter
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Thu Mar-20-08 11:38 AM Response to Reply #37 |
45. My Brother and Cousin in Germany Told me the Same Thing |
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Supersedeas
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Thu Mar-20-08 10:05 AM Response to Original message |
5. so do something bold and make the leap to 100% electric |
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mikeytherat
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Thu Mar-20-08 10:17 AM Response to Reply #5 |
13. They already did: The GM EV-1. They were all destroyed (crushed) by GM. |
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redqueen
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Thu Mar-20-08 10:19 AM Response to Reply #13 |
15. And who says anything about it? |
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Blue_Tires
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Thu Mar-20-08 10:05 AM Response to Original message |
6. even lutz gets it right once a year.... |
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tridim
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Thu Mar-20-08 10:09 AM Response to Original message |
7. Instead GM's "bold thing" was the Hummer.. |
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Demeter
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Thu Mar-20-08 10:17 AM Response to Reply #7 |
12. Execute Whom? |
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mikeytherat
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Thu Mar-20-08 10:32 AM Response to Reply #7 |
22. If you haven't read this about The Hummer, you'll love it: |
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unkachuck
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Thu Mar-20-08 08:53 PM Response to Reply #22 |
73. put a little armor.... |
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krkaufman
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Thu Mar-20-08 12:19 PM Response to Reply #7 |
49. Exactly. Post 9/11 and heading to war with Iraq ... |
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NJmaverick
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Thu Mar-20-08 10:10 AM Response to Original message |
8. Yet the republicans would lead you to believe |
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Auggie
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Thu Mar-20-08 10:23 AM Response to Original message |
17. A real bold move there to lobby against higher mileage standards. |
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redqueen
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Thu Mar-20-08 10:35 AM Response to Reply #17 |
23. We should have had CAFE reinstated back in 93-95. |
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mikeytherat
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Thu Mar-20-08 10:24 AM Response to Original message |
18. Best day for BMW was when Bob Lutz left. |
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Lance_Boyle
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Thu Mar-20-08 10:27 AM Response to Original message |
19. Lots of Big Three fans here will cheer this admission of duncedom. |
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H8fascistcons
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Thu Mar-20-08 10:45 AM Response to Reply #19 |
25. Might Wanna do some research... |
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redqueen
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Thu Mar-20-08 10:51 AM Response to Reply #25 |
28. They decided to kill the electric car 15 years ago? Really? |
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Dr.Phool
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Thu Mar-20-08 11:24 AM Response to Reply #28 |
38. Rent the movie. "Who killed the electric car". |
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redqueen
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Thu Mar-20-08 11:26 AM Response to Reply #38 |
39. They killed it in 2003. That's 5 years ago. |
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Xithras
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Thu Mar-20-08 12:09 PM Response to Reply #38 |
48. That the movie about the EV1? It wasn't a very good car. |
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CRF450
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Thu Mar-20-08 02:36 PM Response to Reply #48 |
61. Yup, it wasent practicle. I wouldn't have a car like that either... |
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H8fascistcons
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Thu Mar-20-08 12:07 PM Response to Reply #28 |
47. Greetings Red queen... |
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redqueen
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Thu Mar-20-08 01:01 PM Response to Reply #47 |
51. Who said anything about a boycott? |
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physioex
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Thu Mar-20-08 11:07 AM Response to Reply #25 |
31. Quality of these cars is an illusion.... |
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DainBramaged
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Sun Mar-23-08 09:05 PM Response to Reply #19 |
84. And all of you Japanese car fans are just as suck ass because Toyota and Honda and Nissan |
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CRF450
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Sun Mar-23-08 11:45 PM Response to Reply #84 |
89. Preach it brotha!! |
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Earth Bound Misfit
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Thu Mar-20-08 10:29 AM Response to Original message |
20. No, No, No, Lutz got it wrong.... it was |
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llmart
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Thu Mar-20-08 10:32 AM Response to Original message |
21. They deserve their fate...... |
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kirby
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Thu Mar-20-08 10:44 AM Response to Original message |
24. Arrogance is the reason... |
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Dr.Phool
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Thu Mar-20-08 11:31 AM Response to Reply #24 |
42. Well, I just bought a new Prius a few weeks ago. |
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kirby
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Thu Mar-20-08 11:36 AM Response to Reply #42 |
44. Yeah, it tells me that you... |
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DainBramaged
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Sun Mar-23-08 09:17 PM Response to Reply #44 |
85. Right, patriotic |
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krkaufman
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Thu Mar-20-08 01:22 PM Response to Reply #24 |
53. Yes, according to the article, he did say that |
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ladywnch
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Thu Mar-20-08 10:45 AM Response to Original message |
26. I love the fact that the auto industry has been in collusion with |
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Auggie
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Thu Mar-20-08 10:47 AM Response to Original message |
27. CEOs can't let their shares slide in the name of R&D |
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raccoon
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Thu Mar-20-08 11:00 AM Response to Original message |
29. Yes, you will make the mistake again, Bob Lutz. |
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redqueen
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Thu Mar-20-08 11:07 AM Response to Reply #29 |
32. Because these are not mistakes. |
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Auggie
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Thu Mar-20-08 11:31 AM Response to Reply #29 |
43. Arrogance in part, but mostly greed |
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Zorra
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Thu Mar-20-08 11:06 AM Response to Original message |
30. If almost any DUer were CEO of GM, they'd already have several lines |
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onehandle
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Thu Mar-20-08 11:09 AM Response to Original message |
33. Taking bribes from the oil industry a 'Mistake' nt |
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Deny and Shred
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Thu Mar-20-08 11:14 AM Response to Original message |
35. According to the documentary "Who killed the electric car" |
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Dr.Phool
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Thu Mar-20-08 11:28 AM Response to Reply #35 |
40. Check out this company! a123 systems. |
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krkaufman
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Thu Mar-20-08 01:49 PM Response to Reply #35 |
55. GM did. But guess who owns that battery technology patent, now? |
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aquart
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Thu Mar-20-08 11:16 AM Response to Original message |
36. BTW, why does this man still have a job? |
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KansDem
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Thu Mar-20-08 01:04 PM Response to Reply #36 |
52. Yeah, and probably pulling his 8-digit salary, too. |
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Doctor_J
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Thu Mar-20-08 11:29 AM Response to Original message |
41. A mistake on the order of letting Bush be president |
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acmavm
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Thu Mar-20-08 11:49 AM Response to Original message |
46. I'm sure the corporate hot shots felt that Iraq WOULD be the cakewalk |
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OKthatsIT
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Thu Mar-20-08 01:31 PM Response to Original message |
54. I WANT A WATER CAR!!! |
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bullwinkle428
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Thu Mar-20-08 01:55 PM Response to Original message |
56. I posted this in the thread on this subject in GD, after reading a ridiculous quote from Lutz: |
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LeftyMom
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Thu Mar-20-08 02:06 PM Response to Reply #56 |
58. And that's without factoring higher resale, tax breaks, etc. |
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bullwinkle428
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Thu Mar-20-08 03:09 PM Response to Reply #58 |
62. D'oh! I totally forgot about the tax credit thing! I know it's no |
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Paulie
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Thu Mar-20-08 06:56 PM Response to Reply #56 |
69. You can compare a Prius to a conventional car |
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sergeiAK
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Fri Mar-21-08 11:21 PM Response to Reply #56 |
77. 35k miles a year? That's a wee bit much |
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DainBramaged
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Sun Mar-23-08 09:37 PM Response to Reply #56 |
87. Buy a Korean made (yuck) Chevy Aveo Sweat and shift model |
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CRF450
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Thu Mar-20-08 02:26 PM Response to Original message |
60. Um people, GM is improving |
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bullwinkle428
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Thu Mar-20-08 03:20 PM Response to Reply #60 |
65. I'm wondering why they couldn't put a better hybrid system into |
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CRF450
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Thu Mar-20-08 06:06 PM Response to Reply #65 |
67. As far as I know, that same hybrid system is now available in the Saturn VUE |
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Yavin4
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Sat Mar-22-08 01:47 AM Response to Reply #60 |
78. "have a hybrid system in production stages " Meanwhile... |
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depakid
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Sun Mar-23-08 05:08 PM Response to Reply #60 |
81. The Pontiac G-8 is the Australian Holden Commodor SS |
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CRF450
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Sun Mar-23-08 08:48 PM Response to Reply #81 |
83. They may be badging that one as a Pontiac too. |
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Dreamer Tatum
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Thu Mar-20-08 08:00 PM Response to Original message |
70. Typical overcorrection coming soon... |
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Hekate
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Thu Mar-20-08 08:22 PM Response to Original message |
71. Absolutely no sympathy coming from me for those greedheads. Their workers suffered... |
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dano81818
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Thu Mar-20-08 08:27 PM Response to Original message |
72. yeah |
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Orsino
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Fri Mar-21-08 07:22 AM Response to Original message |
74. "A mistake." |
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sarcasmo
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Fri Mar-21-08 02:46 PM Response to Original message |
75. Day late and a dollar short as usual. Keep on making them big trucks and Hummers you DUMMY. |
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depakid
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Fri Mar-21-08 02:56 PM Response to Original message |
76. I'm currently in the market for a state side car- and what I see in the lots, and in the ads |
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goforit
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Sat Mar-22-08 08:49 PM Response to Original message |
79. ROFLMAO!!! Collusion with the phucking Oil industry GM? I refuse to buy a |
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DainBramaged
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Sun Mar-23-08 09:21 PM Response to Reply #79 |
86. And I have decided to put your dumb ass on ignore for ever |
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fortyfeetunder
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Sun Mar-23-08 04:48 PM Response to Original message |
80. Bring out the violins, might as well be a damn orchestra!!!! |
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and-justice-for-all
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Sun Mar-23-08 08:01 PM Response to Original message |
82. Not making EV's: A CRIME!..nt |
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Johnny Harpo
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Sun Mar-23-08 11:29 PM Response to Original message |
88. The Problem Is Not Greed But That |
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