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antigop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 11:41 AM Original message |
IBM riles employees with base pay cuts |
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N4457S (415 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 11:44 AM Response to Original message |
1. I'm IBM Advanced Certified... |
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russian33 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 12:27 PM Response to Reply #1 |
13. and people act shocked when i say i can't wait to get out |
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SharonAnn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 04:17 PM Response to Reply #13 |
38. And they used to be known for their good jobs, pay practices, and fairness. |
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N4457S (415 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 06:56 PM Response to Reply #38 |
45. That Was... |
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roseBudd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 07:45 PM Response to Reply #1 |
47. offtopic question, how come only unix had chmod from within FTP client? |
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lurky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 09:20 PM Response to Reply #47 |
52. The 3rd party machine is Unix/Linux? |
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roseBudd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 07:46 AM Response to Reply #52 |
61. Probably not, it's an ASP server & chmod said, not supported |
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lurky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 09:28 PM Response to Reply #47 |
53. If the machine is running Windows, |
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roseBudd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 07:44 AM Response to Reply #53 |
60. It's an ASP server, I am a digital designer dipping into development so I get a thrill |
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lurky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 01:28 PM Response to Reply #60 |
63. I like your adventurous spirit! |
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roseBudd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 01:43 PM Response to Reply #63 |
64. thanks! IT helped me set up the path to my last one, & when nothing was working... |
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Catsbrains (352 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 04:55 AM Response to Reply #1 |
59. greedy bastards. |
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lapfog_1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 11:45 AM Response to Original message |
2. Do they even HAVE US based tech support people? - n/t |
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N4457S (415 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 12:02 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Sure They Do... |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 12:25 PM Response to Reply #2 |
11. I used to work for a US tech support company... |
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L0oniX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 11:55 AM Response to Original message |
3. Well the Chinese division slave labor is getting more expensive so they need to cut the pay here. |
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N4457S (415 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 12:07 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. I've Had... |
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CatholicEdHead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 02:24 PM Response to Reply #5 |
36. True, the Lenovo Thinkpads are pretty durable |
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N4457S (415 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 03:59 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. When I Saw... |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 12:31 AM Response to Reply #37 |
58. Trust me, you want to keep far, far away from HP. Top to bottom |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 09:39 PM Response to Reply #5 |
54. Thinkpads are pretty good laptops |
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JCMach1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 12:00 AM Response to Reply #5 |
57. New ('Lenovo' Thinkpads are crap) |
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politicaholic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 12:11 PM Response to Original message |
6. I have a strict "No buying from douche-bags" policy... |
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N4457S (415 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 12:16 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. I Know... |
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sinkingfeeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 12:17 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. Unless you're buying a mainframe or an AIX system, there's nothing left for an individual to buy |
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N4457S (415 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 12:36 PM Response to Reply #9 |
16. But... |
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sinkingfeeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 12:57 PM Response to Reply #16 |
21. Sure mainframes are around and the software makes money. We're looking at just the |
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sinkingfeeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 12:14 PM Response to Original message |
7. As a retired IBMer, I wonder how I missed the law suit. In the last 3 years I worked for them, I was |
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russian33 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 12:26 PM Response to Reply #7 |
12. yep, gotta love that 'mandatory' over-time |
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russian33 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 12:21 PM Response to Original message |
10. yep, this has been around the "water cooler" for a few days |
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TommyO (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 12:28 PM Response to Original message |
14. I work for another company and have gone through the same thing |
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sdfernando (421 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 12:35 PM Response to Original message |
15. Company I worked for did this too |
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russian33 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 12:36 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. what if I'm already unhappy? |
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Acadia Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 12:40 PM Response to Original message |
18. They are creating their Mexican, Only Rich and Poor society, and |
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antigop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 12:47 PM Response to Original message |
19. for cryin' out loud, people --- JOIN A UNION! If you don't, it will probably just get worse. n/t |
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OKthatsIT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 06:49 PM Response to Reply #19 |
44. I think they'd rather whine... |
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MessiahRp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 12:51 PM Response to Original message |
20. This must be what all that "ideating" came up with. |
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guitar man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 01:00 PM Response to Original message |
22. they should walk out |
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antigop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 01:02 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. I'm not sure they can realistically do that..they need a union in place first. n/t |
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guitar man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 01:05 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. well then |
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antigop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 01:07 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. I agree. I do NOT understand why they won't unionize. n/t |
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guitar man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 01:14 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. It's been a long time |
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antigop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 01:18 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. How much guts does it take to sign a union card? (Not attacking you...just asking the question.) |
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guitar man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 01:20 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. I remember when I signed mine |
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antigop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 01:24 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. but you don't have to be vocal about it...you just sign it and send it in, right? |
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guitar man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 01:29 PM Response to Reply #32 |
33. pretty much |
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antigop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 01:31 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. but it looks like, according to the article, someone has already "put their ass on the line" |
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guitar man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 01:37 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. since I have been out of it for so long |
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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 05:42 PM Response to Reply #32 |
43. There may be others that sign also but are not for the union |
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antigop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 07:58 PM Response to Reply #43 |
48. So what? You sign a card...you get enough cards..You get to vote for a union.. |
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SharonAnn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 04:21 PM Response to Reply #29 |
39. Umm, no. Big companies make it very, very difficult tojoin a union even if they have one in another |
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antigop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 04:56 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. There is an organizing campaign already in place...much of the difficult work |
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antigop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 05:00 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. From that website mentioned above....allianceibm.org |
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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 05:40 PM Response to Reply #26 |
42. Some people believe they are professionals and therefore should not belong to a union. |
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N4457S (415 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 06:57 PM Response to Reply #42 |
46. My Wife... |
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antigop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 07:59 PM Response to Reply #42 |
49. The airline pilots have a union...I guess they're not "professionals". n/t |
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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 11:59 PM Response to Reply #49 |
56. I didn't say that professionals don't belong to a union |
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antigop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 10:23 AM Response to Reply #56 |
62. and if that's the case...they are getting what they deserve, imo. |
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russian33 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 01:18 PM Response to Reply #22 |
28. i work out of my house.... |
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antigop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 01:06 PM Response to Original message |
25. so why aren't they unionizing? They'd rather lose benefits and pay rather than join a union? |
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Trajan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 01:18 PM Response to Original message |
30. The intentional suppression of wages ... |
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OhioChick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 08:00 PM Response to Original message |
50. What Assholes. n/t |
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dapper (755 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 08:46 PM Response to Original message |
51. IBM Helpdesk |
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HCE SuiGeneris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 09:46 PM Response to Original message |
55. Invest in the corporate stock market, let the board of directors slit your throat |
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