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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 11:05 AM Original message |
Report reveals Vietnam War hoaxes, faked attacks |
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riqster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 11:14 AM Response to Original message |
1. Makes ya wonder about Iran's "provocative" naval actions nt |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 11:16 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. EXACTLY! |
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FourScore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 11:38 AM Response to Reply #1 |
10. When I heard about the naval build up in that region, |
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riqster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 11:59 AM Response to Reply #10 |
15. Yep. This the next page in the script. Elections in a few months. |
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niyad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 02:11 PM Response to Reply #1 |
26. my very first thought on hearing the iran boat incident was "gulf of tonkin bs" |
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DCKit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 11:54 AM Response to Reply #1 |
62. I'd been hearing all day about the provocative actions by Iran's military.... |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 11:15 AM Response to Original message |
2. More proof that politicians lie. nt |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 11:16 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. And they do it for profit. |
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riqster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 11:19 AM Response to Reply #4 |
5. Bush and his cronies are heavy into the oil and arms businesses |
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rockybelt (938 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 01:08 PM Response to Reply #5 |
18. Check out the BAE scandal nt |
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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 05:54 PM Response to Reply #5 |
54. Bush needs to provide a better scenario that will result in a war |
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Flarney (512 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 11:19 AM Response to Reply #4 |
6. "money trumps peace" nt |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 11:51 AM Response to Reply #6 |
12. Actual quote... |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 11:56 AM Response to Reply #4 |
13. If not profit, someone is laying down a false trail. They want us to waste too much |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 11:58 AM Response to Reply #13 |
14. And the reason the do that? The real culprits are doing shit for profit |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 11:31 AM Response to Original message |
7. I love how this is still news to some people. |
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Parche (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 07:39 PM Response to Reply #7 |
55. History Buffs |
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Tansy_Gold (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 03:17 PM Response to Reply #55 |
66. "And what war was THAT?" |
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panzerfaust (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 01:50 PM Response to Reply #7 |
63. Yep. My thought was: Late Breaking News - late by 20 years or more |
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Bandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 11:32 AM Response to Original message |
8. Makes one feel that the Government just can't be trusted |
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LibertyLover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 11:38 AM Response to Original message |
9. When I heard about the Iranian incident, |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 12:00 PM Response to Reply #9 |
16. Probably many of us of a certain age had the same immediate response |
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Seabiscuit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 02:39 PM Response to Reply #16 |
30. They've "cried wolf" for so long they won't have any credibililty if a real threat arrives. |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 11:51 AM Response to Original message |
11. Truth is a daughter of time....Some of the same people cooked it all |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 12:19 PM Response to Original message |
17. JFK Would NEVER Have Fallen for Phony INTEL! |
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rockybelt (938 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 01:13 PM Response to Original message |
19. Does nobody remember the Gulf of Tonkin incident? |
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formercia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 01:53 PM Response to Reply #19 |
23. I was on board a Navy Destroyer in the Gulf of Maine |
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niyad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 02:26 PM Response to Reply #19 |
27. I thought the information about the gulf of tonkin being a lie has been around for years. |
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Seabiscuit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 02:35 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. It has been. I've known about this for many, many moons. |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 03:02 PM Response to Reply #27 |
36. Yes. The sudden 'release' of the INTEL (via a French news source) tells much |
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formercia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 03:10 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. Those who do not learn from the Past become History. |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 03:41 PM Response to Reply #38 |
41. a grizzled old Ranger-type of my acquaintance remarked |
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formercia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 01:21 PM Response to Original message |
20. Another fake TERRA alert on the eve of a vote: |
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FourScore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 01:26 PM Response to Original message |
21. kick |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 01:36 PM Response to Original message |
22. Do You Remember When Operation Northwoods Was In the News? |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 02:57 PM Response to Reply #22 |
35. Yep. |
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frog92969 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 01:56 PM Response to Original message |
24. Same shit, different decade! |
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Xenotime (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 01:56 PM Response to Original message |
25. Some feel most of the Vietnam war was a hoax |
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formercia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 02:29 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. Also known as Spellman's War |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 02:40 PM Response to Original message |
31. no attack? |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 03:04 PM Response to Reply #31 |
37. I'm from Missouri. |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 04:56 PM Response to Reply #37 |
50. Just like "Wag the Dog" |
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BB1 (671 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 09:17 AM Response to Reply #37 |
68. The Show-Me state. |
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downindixie (321 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 02:46 PM Response to Original message |
32. Show us the film of these boats |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 02:56 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. Film would mean nada to me. All that $$ gone missing in Iraq could hire a lotta posers |
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Massachusetts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 02:55 PM Response to Original message |
33. Freedom doesn't come easy, we must remain vigilant. |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 03:18 PM Response to Original message |
39. Then what were these boats doing? |
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kenfrequed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 03:36 PM Response to Original message |
40. Once again the mainstream media FAILS us |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 03:47 PM Response to Reply #40 |
43. If one of the officers on a US ship had taken the bait and started a shootin war |
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kenfrequed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 05:34 PM Response to Reply #43 |
51. Hmm |
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Kali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 10:49 PM Response to Reply #40 |
57. yeah right |
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kenfrequed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 08:43 AM Response to Reply #57 |
58. Oh hell |
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INdemo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 03:44 PM Response to Original message |
42. I don't believe this story ......Ask the sailors that were aboard the |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 03:49 PM Response to Reply #42 |
45. Not to discredit LBJ & events of 40 years ago. To question events of YESTERDAY |
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CGowen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 10:33 AM Response to Reply #42 |
61. post 23 claims to be one, if you are such a LBJ fan you should read up on the USS Liberty |
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piedmont (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 02:01 PM Response to Reply #61 |
65. uh, no-- he was in the Gulf of Maine. |
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panzerfaust (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 01:52 PM Response to Reply #42 |
64. This was known, reported, long ago |
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demigoddess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 03:49 PM Response to Original message |
44. I was thinking, " isn't it funny that we send aircraft carriers etc halfway round the world |
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noel adamson (353 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 03:59 PM Response to Original message |
46. Even if the Maddox and Turner Joy had been attacked it was not likely without... |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 04:03 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. Yes. bush provoked them with the show of force in their tidal pool |
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noel adamson (353 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 04:07 PM Response to Reply #47 |
48. Restraint may be due to the fact that we are the most powerful bullies around. |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 04:13 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. Yes again. The Iranians are NOT crazy. |
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donkeyotay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 05:37 PM Response to Original message |
52. I've been reading Seymour Hersh's "The Price of Power: Kissinger |
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Baby Snooks (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 05:44 PM Response to Original message |
53. And behind the hoaxes... |
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sarcasmo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 07:44 PM Response to Original message |
56. History repeating itself. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 10:25 AM Response to Reply #56 |
59. Which, if more people learned actual history instead of the whitewashed version |
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Barrett808 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 10:32 AM Response to Original message |
60. Truth is the First Casualty: The Gulf of Tonkin Affair -- Illusion and Reality |
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Andre II (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 07:59 AM Response to Original message |
67. Report |
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