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Rose Siding (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 04:37 PM Original message |
US House votes to cut estate tax |
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Terran1212 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 04:43 PM Response to Original message |
1. Are they just trying to do as much damage as possible before Nov 2006 |
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Castilleja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 09:34 PM Response to Reply #1 |
31. Yes. |
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Doctor_J (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-23-06 09:50 AM Response to Reply #1 |
46. Scorched-earth |
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tbyg52 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-23-06 04:37 PM Response to Reply #1 |
72. One can hope... |
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catmother (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 04:43 PM Response to Original message |
2. well right now if we died, our estate would be worth close to |
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eleny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 04:47 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Right now, it wouldn't |
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catmother (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 04:57 PM Response to Reply #4 |
9. it is confusing. is a life insurance policy taxable? we have my |
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eleny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 05:26 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. I don't think so |
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catmother (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 05:43 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. my mother in law had a substantial amount of money, house, |
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eleny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 07:07 PM Response to Reply #14 |
22. 10 years in a NH. How sad |
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catmother (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 07:38 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. yeah. fortunately it was a very nice place. but she really |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 09:40 PM Response to Reply #14 |
34. Everyone -- look at buying long term care insurance |
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catmother (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 09:52 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. they won't cover me because i have chronic fatigue syndrome |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 09:40 PM Response to Reply #9 |
33. Life insurance is not taxable, meaning |
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catmother (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 09:54 PM Response to Reply #33 |
37. thank you for that info. |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-23-06 02:51 AM Response to Reply #9 |
41. I think it is under the income tax, but not under the estate tax. (nt) |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-23-06 10:08 AM Response to Reply #41 |
47. Exactly the opposite |
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elehhhhna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-23-06 05:54 PM Response to Reply #9 |
74. No. Life ins is not taxable. |
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mbperrin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-23-06 06:03 PM Response to Reply #9 |
76. No, life insurance proceeds are exempt. When I sold it a number |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-23-06 08:13 PM Response to Reply #76 |
82. They're not exempt unless the ownership is set-up properly. This is |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 09:39 PM Response to Reply #4 |
32. The exclusion is currently $ 2 million |
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MaineDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 04:44 PM Response to Original message |
3. Here's a link to the roll call vote |
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Rose Siding (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 04:48 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. I can never get any numbers when the clerk link is posted |
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MaineDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 04:51 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. Gee, I never have any trouble |
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izzie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 04:50 PM Response to Original message |
6. I said all along it would be a push to get every thing they want in |
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54anickel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 04:53 PM Response to Original message |
8. Those 43 aren't really Democrats, are they? Cuz either they or |
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Robbien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 05:51 PM Response to Reply #8 |
15. Probably the same 42 so called Dems who voted for Bush's war resolution |
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Kagemusha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 05:04 PM Response to Original message |
10. I personally have little trouble with cutting the estate tax a lot |
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Robbien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 06:55 PM Response to Reply #10 |
19. Cost $700 billion over ten years, and only about 5,000 people will benefit |
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Kagemusha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 07:59 PM Response to Reply #19 |
25. From what I know your numbers are uh, slightly exaggerated |
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minnesota_liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 09:11 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. Sorry if you don't like the math |
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NYC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-23-06 11:32 AM Response to Reply #26 |
53. Thanks for the useful link. |
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Robbien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 09:19 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. Not exaggerated |
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54anickel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 09:28 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. Beat me to it Robbien - I was just going to post their links |
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Kagemusha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-23-06 12:59 AM Response to Reply #28 |
39. Sigh. I'm not disputing the # of billions, I mean the "only 5000 people" |
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minnesota_liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-23-06 06:34 AM Response to Reply #39 |
42. Correct. I assumed that you, like most ET opponents, focused on the $ |
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Kagemusha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-23-06 01:57 PM Response to Reply #42 |
67. "like most ET opponents".. ARGHHHHHHH |
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Robbien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-23-06 12:09 PM Response to Reply #39 |
55. Again, the 5,000 is a number in the ballpark |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 09:44 PM Response to Reply #25 |
35. True |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-23-06 01:45 PM Response to Reply #35 |
62. Wow |
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elehhhhna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-23-06 06:00 PM Response to Reply #62 |
75. This is what it's about. Lots of drooling relatives who don't want |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-23-06 06:59 PM Response to Reply #75 |
78. Boy did this argument change |
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elehhhhna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-23-06 08:00 PM Response to Reply #78 |
81. wahh wahhh waaaaaaaaaaaaaaah |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-23-06 11:36 PM Response to Reply #81 |
84. Pretty classic argument technique |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-24-06 02:41 AM Response to Reply #19 |
89. I don't know where that 5,000 number comes from, because there |
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54anickel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 09:25 PM Response to Reply #10 |
29. I dunno, fudging a tax that,in it's current form only effects the |
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Kagemusha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-23-06 01:01 AM Response to Reply #29 |
40. You know, 2% of Americans is a lot more than 5000 people. |
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54anickel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-23-06 09:48 AM Response to Reply #40 |
45. Did I say or allude to 5000 people anywhere in that post? Yeah, you're |
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toopers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-23-06 11:33 AM Response to Reply #45 |
54. You forget . . . most of the value in an estate has already been taxed |
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54anickel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-23-06 12:18 PM Response to Reply #54 |
56. I believe the estate tax was set up as a deferral of taxes on unrealized |
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toopers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-23-06 12:39 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. Is was not my goal to help you understand the taxing of earned income . . |
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54anickel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-23-06 01:19 PM Response to Reply #57 |
60. They have to reach a certain value just to be subject to the estate tax to |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-23-06 01:48 PM Response to Reply #54 |
63. Because money is taxed whenever it is transferred. |
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Strelnikov_ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-23-06 01:51 PM Response to Reply #54 |
64. All Of My Wages Have Already Been Taxed |
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Strelnikov_ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-23-06 01:53 PM Response to Reply #54 |
66. .. |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-23-06 10:59 AM Response to Reply #40 |
52. And THAT 2% should live LARGE while increasing numbers of |
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Kagemusha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-23-06 01:59 PM Response to Reply #52 |
68. I'm pickier about who I call the enemy, thanks. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-23-06 08:20 PM Response to Reply #40 |
83. 2% actually understates the number affected by the tax, because that is |
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Kagemusha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-24-06 01:52 AM Response to Reply #83 |
86. Thank you. That is much appreciated. |
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Schema Thing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 05:28 PM Response to Original message |
12. Disgusting. Even Bill Gates Sr. wants to give America back |
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Amonester (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 05:42 PM Response to Reply #12 |
13. What the coffers' contents of a destroyed country's worth?? |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-23-06 07:02 PM Response to Reply #12 |
79. That's fine and he certainly has |
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AX10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 05:54 PM Response to Original message |
16. If Democrats don't win this fall, it's all over. |
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journalist3072 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 06:43 PM Response to Original message |
17. Democrats have been handed a gift |
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Jaundice James (248 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 06:45 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. You're exactly right... |
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Robbien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 07:03 PM Response to Reply #18 |
21. Wisconsin Dems are working it by issuing a press release |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 07:03 PM Response to Original message |
20. Thank God! Now Paris won't have to |
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Sadie5 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 07:28 PM Response to Reply #20 |
23. Estate planning |
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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 09:12 PM Response to Original message |
27. Republicans argue the tax hurts small business owners and farmers... |
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Robb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-23-06 08:20 AM Response to Reply #27 |
44. Exactly. It's not the estate tax |
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agio (95 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-23-06 12:40 PM Response to Reply #27 |
58. farms |
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hogwyld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 10:07 PM Response to Original message |
38. I hope the DEM's win everything in '06 |
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54anickel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-23-06 08:11 AM Response to Reply #38 |
43. Uhmmm - there are "DEM's" voting for this stuff. Having "DEM's" win |
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VegasWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-23-06 10:19 AM Response to Original message |
48. Well, Congress is ensuring that their children are taken care of. nt |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-23-06 10:20 AM Response to Original message |
49. Forty-three Democrats joined the Republican majority |
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Vinca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-23-06 10:53 AM Response to Reply #49 |
50. Ditto what you said. I'm increasingly pessimistic. nt |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-23-06 10:57 AM Response to Reply #49 |
51. Greedy Corporate Enablers ... |
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agio (95 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-23-06 12:43 PM Response to Original message |
59. Qui bono? |
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54anickel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-23-06 01:26 PM Response to Reply #59 |
61. Don't they have to die to benefit from it? I know they're greedy, but |
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elehhhhna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-23-06 06:04 PM Response to Reply #61 |
77. The Prezzy's parents are very old, and VERY RICH. |
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54anickel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-23-06 07:06 PM Response to Reply #77 |
80. DOH! Forgot about the elder Bush and Babs. Silly me. Thanks. n/t |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-24-06 01:37 AM Response to Reply #59 |
85. How do estimate how much Bush will have when he dies? |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-24-06 02:02 AM Response to Reply #85 |
87. Are you being flippant? I can't tell. (nt) |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-23-06 01:51 PM Response to Original message |
65. Where is the Web Site that listed the people behind the effort |
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54anickel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-23-06 03:08 PM Response to Reply #65 |
70. Not sure if this is the one you're thinking of... |
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indypaul (896 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-23-06 02:11 PM Response to Original message |
69. More aptly this is NOT |
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54anickel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-23-06 03:50 PM Response to Original message |
71. Looks like they are talking outta both sides of their mouths |
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RobertSeattle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-23-06 04:39 PM Response to Original message |
73. Worst.Congress.Ever |
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eagler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-24-06 02:07 AM Response to Original message |
88. The estate tax has been a reality since since the beginning and its |
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