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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-20-06 05:08 AM Original message |
US memo says Iraq in freefall |
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merwin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-20-06 05:31 AM Response to Original message |
1. So that's what Cheney meant by 'Iraq has hit a turning point' |
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vssmith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-20-06 05:53 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. When Cheney speaks |
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Divernan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-20-06 05:53 AM Response to Original message |
2. Further info from this article is quite chilling. |
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izzie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-20-06 06:03 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Sort of working out like the Vietnam constitutional gov. |
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saigon68 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-20-06 10:53 AM Response to Reply #4 |
25. It is an extension of Vietnamization at work |
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Jack from Charlotte (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-20-06 12:08 PM Response to Reply #25 |
30. You got that right. I recall a televised speech Lyndon did..... |
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saigon68 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-20-06 12:27 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. Like Iraq they did hand out pencils to school children |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-20-06 02:03 PM Response to Reply #30 |
38. I swear to God I saw Richard Meyers on one of the |
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halobeam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-20-06 07:13 AM Response to Reply #2 |
8. anyone have a link to the Washington Post article on this memo? |
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ovidsen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-20-06 08:17 AM Response to Reply #8 |
14. Here ya go! |
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halobeam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-20-06 09:05 AM Response to Reply #14 |
17. Thank you... a family member will now eat his foot. |
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UpInArms (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-20-06 02:12 PM Response to Reply #8 |
39. here's a WP link with an AP byline |
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halobeam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-21-06 10:11 PM Response to Reply #39 |
62. Thanks to you too! Very much appreciated. |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-20-06 01:57 PM Response to Reply #2 |
37. I expect the Iraqi Resistance has heavily infiltrated the supposedly |
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long_green (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-20-06 05:38 PM Response to Reply #37 |
46. that was by far the most staggering bit of info |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-21-06 01:58 PM Response to Reply #46 |
59. Think Dien Bien Phu or Stalingrad and you'll have a |
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dbt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-20-06 06:15 AM Response to Original message |
5. And now, instead of Walter Cronkite telling us the war is unwinnable, |
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halobeam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-20-06 07:14 AM Response to Reply #5 |
9. you HAD to say the "K" word during breakfast? Ugh. |
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arewenotdemo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-20-06 04:11 PM Response to Reply #9 |
44. me as well |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-21-06 11:36 AM Response to Reply #44 |
57. Celebrity Deathmatch reborn |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-20-06 06:26 AM Response to Original message |
6. I am wonder if a major newspapr picked this up. I saw it yesterday also. |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-20-06 06:56 AM Response to Original message |
7. Our allies have surely noted that Bush's "Shock'n'Awe" campaign has |
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halobeam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-20-06 07:15 AM Response to Reply #7 |
10. They wouldn't let it air if it were in contradiction to their BS. |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-20-06 07:16 AM Response to Reply #10 |
11. I don't expect them to allow it, but wouldn't Amanpour do a terrific |
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halobeam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-20-06 07:37 AM Response to Reply #11 |
12. I'd buy a dvd of her doing it. |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-20-06 09:34 PM Response to Reply #12 |
50. Can't blame ya. A mass resignation of the Bush administration would |
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Supersedeas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-20-06 11:28 AM Response to Reply #7 |
28. yes, where are the sources and panelists who can back this up |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-20-06 09:37 PM Response to Reply #28 |
51. It may require a Dem Party-backed town hall meeting. The networks |
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Lochloosa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-20-06 08:11 AM Response to Original message |
13. And these two articles are from Ireland and the UK... |
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ovidsen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-20-06 08:24 AM Response to Reply #13 |
16. They're both fallout from Sunday's Washington Post |
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reichstag911 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-21-06 08:51 PM Response to Reply #16 |
60. Nice pic... |
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BigDDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-20-06 08:19 AM Response to Original message |
15. We're turning the corner, so... |
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oasis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-20-06 09:20 AM Response to Original message |
18. "the real rulers of the country are the militias". |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-20-06 01:03 PM Response to Reply #18 |
33. Mission Accomplished! Take the money and run, the plan all along. |
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Amonester (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-20-06 10:02 PM Response to Reply #33 |
55. Yep. "Cut and Run" is their MO since the first day, in reality. |
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AngryOldDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-20-06 09:33 AM Response to Original message |
19. Why am I having flashbacks to the fall of Saigon? |
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Tom Yossarian Joad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-20-06 09:50 AM Response to Original message |
20. K&R~ |
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lagavulin (101 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-20-06 10:05 AM Response to Original message |
21. I'm getting the scary feeling that the next "turning point" in this war |
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dave420 (141 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-21-06 10:55 AM Response to Reply #21 |
56. That's unlikely... |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-21-06 11:56 AM Response to Reply #21 |
58. I agree |
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Barrett808 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-20-06 10:09 AM Response to Original message |
22. Link to the memo here: |
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young_at_heart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-20-06 10:09 AM Response to Original message |
23. We were told after the 2000 election, "The adults are now in charge" |
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gemdem (975 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-20-06 10:52 AM Response to Original message |
24. Everything that the pre-war critics said would happen has happened... |
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catmandu57 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-20-06 11:28 AM Response to Reply #24 |
27. A special place in hell |
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Auntie Bush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-20-06 03:20 PM Response to Reply #24 |
42. I like that..."die for a lie." That is a great saying! |
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Sapere aude (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-20-06 11:23 AM Response to Original message |
26. Is this the lead story on Faux News at the moment? |
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GliderGuider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-20-06 01:51 PM Response to Reply #26 |
35. Apparently Khalilzad was on Faux Snooze this morning trying to spin it |
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paparush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-20-06 11:49 AM Response to Original message |
29. Almost There...stay on target...almost there..stay on target!! |
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truth2power (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-20-06 12:43 PM Response to Original message |
32. Major combat operations are over... |
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goodhue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-20-06 01:04 PM Response to Original message |
34. memo is a must read |
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Generator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-20-06 01:52 PM Response to Original message |
36. These leakers must be prosecuted! |
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Supersedeas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 04:27 PM Response to Reply #36 |
63. why has the M$M not picked up this story!?! |
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RCinBrooklyn (421 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-20-06 02:13 PM Response to Original message |
40. In a freefall since Bush declared "Mission Accomplished." |
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bling bling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-20-06 09:46 PM Response to Reply #40 |
53. And since he so bravely dared them to: "Bring it on......" n/t |
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rustydog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-20-06 02:30 PM Response to Original message |
41. This memo explains Bush's visit. Rove knows how poorly |
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MnFats (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-20-06 03:28 PM Response to Original message |
43. Remember that Vietnam scene: a helicopter leaving the roof of the embassy |
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Divernan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-20-06 04:35 PM Response to Reply #43 |
45. They recreated that scene in the musical Miss Saigon - it was horrifying. |
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MnFats (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-20-06 05:59 PM Response to Reply #45 |
48. yes. these kinds of horrors have a habit of repeating themselves... |
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UpInArms (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-20-06 05:38 PM Response to Original message |
47. ABC Evening Snews is now reporting this memo. |
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LuckyLib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-20-06 08:30 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. As Chimpy says to Laura, "There doing it again, honey! Not |
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bling bling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-20-06 09:39 PM Response to Original message |
52. Why did it take a "leaked" memo for this to be published? |
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Oak2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 06:57 PM Response to Reply #52 |
64. It "helps" if you've got a bizarre self-imposed definition |
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RUMMYisFROSTED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-20-06 09:48 PM Response to Original message |
54. "Ooh ooh, ah ah," screamed the AWOL Chimp! |
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Supersedeas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-21-06 09:32 PM Response to Original message |
61. and the US Media is cowed into silence |
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