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LiberalHeart
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Wed Mar-08-06 03:28 PM Original message |
Men's-Rights Activists Want a "Roe v. Wade for Men" |
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electron_blue
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Wed Mar-08-06 03:30 PM Response to Original message |
1. uh, for *his* daughter, rather. |
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Inland
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Wed Mar-08-06 03:33 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Didn't take long to get past THAT spin, did it? |
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LostinVA
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Wed Mar-08-06 08:23 PM Response to Reply #1 |
127. HIS flesh and blood -- Jerk |
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sui generis
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Wed Mar-08-06 03:33 PM Response to Original message |
3. go for it |
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thinkingwoman
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Wed Mar-08-06 03:35 PM Response to Reply #3 |
8. Not be a buzzkill but... |
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Yupster
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Wed Mar-08-06 08:07 PM Response to Reply #8 |
119. My superbaby is eight |
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thinkingwoman
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Wed Mar-08-06 08:09 PM Response to Reply #119 |
121. I had 4 pregnancies |
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Critters2
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Thu Mar-09-06 04:09 PM Response to Reply #121 |
265. Wow! That is some bad luck! |
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thinkingwoman
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Thu Mar-09-06 05:03 PM Response to Reply #265 |
268. aw, shucks, thanks! |
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JuniorPlankton
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Wed Mar-08-06 03:37 PM Response to Reply #3 |
9. Is it really much more effective than the pill? |
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Caoimhe
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Wed Mar-08-06 03:40 PM Response to Reply #9 |
14. a condom is invasive? Try pushing an 8 lb baby out your |
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sui generis
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Wed Mar-08-06 03:49 PM Response to Reply #14 |
21. yeah wasn't sure if my caffeine had run out when I read that |
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adriennui
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Wed Mar-08-06 04:30 PM Response to Reply #21 |
44. what if the man is not the biological father? |
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sui generis
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Wed Mar-08-06 04:42 PM Response to Reply #44 |
47. we're only talking about biological fathers |
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DarkTirade
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Thu Mar-09-06 02:30 PM Response to Reply #47 |
247. That happened to my roommate's cousin... |
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Orangepeel
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Wed Mar-08-06 08:47 PM Response to Reply #44 |
143. maybe that reasoning would have worked years ago |
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adriennui
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Wed Mar-08-06 09:19 PM Response to Reply #143 |
149. i agree, it can be verified by DNA. |
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Xithras
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Thu Mar-09-06 02:47 PM Response to Reply #149 |
253. There are many men paying support on children verified to not be theirs. |
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Katherine Brengle
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Fri Mar-10-06 12:49 PM Response to Reply #253 |
373. This is bs--any man could file a paternity suit and then |
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smirkymonkey
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Thu Mar-09-06 02:06 PM Response to Reply #44 |
245. DNA testing |
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JuniorPlankton
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Wed Mar-08-06 05:42 PM Response to Reply #21 |
66. I agree, absolutely |
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dave29
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Wed Mar-08-06 05:43 PM Response to Reply #21 |
67. I can think of circumstances where the mother might not want the father |
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crikkett
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Wed Mar-08-06 03:59 PM Response to Reply #14 |
26. bravo! |
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Yupster
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Wed Mar-08-06 08:09 PM Response to Reply #26 |
120. Hear that women... |
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BoneDaddy
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Thu Mar-09-06 11:09 AM Response to Reply #120 |
222. Why is that any different |
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CTLawGuy
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Fri Mar-10-06 11:22 AM Response to Reply #120 |
357. didn't you get the message? |
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BoneDaddy
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Thu Mar-09-06 11:11 AM Response to Reply #26 |
223. Does the same thing apply to the woman? |
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pokercat999
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Thu Mar-09-06 08:15 PM Response to Reply #223 |
290. Same reason for both uncontrollable LUST ah yes just lust |
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Evergreen Emerald
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Fri Mar-10-06 08:53 AM Response to Reply #223 |
335. It has been the standard for women since the beginning of time |
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BoneDaddy
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Fri Mar-10-06 10:10 AM Response to Reply #335 |
338. true |
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JuniorPlankton
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Wed Mar-08-06 05:41 PM Response to Reply #14 |
64. I thought I made it clear |
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Caoimhe
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Wed Mar-08-06 06:34 PM Response to Reply #64 |
82. I understand your point |
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JuniorPlankton
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Thu Mar-09-06 09:59 AM Response to Reply #82 |
204. Look, it has really gotten out of hand |
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sui generis
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Wed Mar-08-06 03:46 PM Response to Reply #9 |
20. you take chances when you have sex |
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MindPilot
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Wed Mar-08-06 04:06 PM Response to Reply #20 |
30. Why is the woman always portrayed as a victim? |
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Mountainman
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Wed Mar-08-06 04:20 PM Response to Reply #30 |
37. What about taking responsibility for your actions? It takes two to make a |
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MindPilot
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Wed Mar-08-06 04:36 PM Response to Reply #37 |
46. That's exactly what I'm saying--it takes two. |
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Mountainman
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Wed Mar-08-06 04:47 PM Response to Reply #46 |
49. Hold the hell on here! If it takes two both have responsibility to not get |
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MindPilot
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Wed Mar-08-06 04:57 PM Response to Reply #49 |
55. I did not say that!! |
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LostinVA
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Wed Mar-08-06 08:26 PM Response to Reply #55 |
131. Then put a condom on, insist on spermicide -- whatever |
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StuckinKS
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Wed Mar-08-06 05:00 PM Response to Reply #46 |
56. If the woman has more to lose than the man |
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CTyankee
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Wed Mar-08-06 05:17 PM Response to Reply #30 |
59. Uh, how do you prove it was accidental? |
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LostinVA
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Wed Mar-08-06 08:24 PM Response to Reply #9 |
128. That's right, Junior -- it's her body |
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Bassic
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Thu Mar-09-06 08:40 AM Response to Reply #9 |
184. This is the meat of the subject. |
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Luminous Animal
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Wed Mar-08-06 03:34 PM Response to Original message |
4. Well, isn't that special... |
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China_cat
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Wed Mar-08-06 04:12 PM Response to Reply #4 |
31. 1950 all over again. |
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rodeodance
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Fri Mar-10-06 10:47 AM Response to Reply #4 |
350. yup. you said it. |
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renaissanceguy
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Wed Mar-08-06 03:34 PM Response to Original message |
5. That's right. Knock them up and then run away, |
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wicket
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Wed Mar-08-06 03:42 PM Response to Reply #5 |
16. 'Cept now they can't claim that all of their friends slept with her too |
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dave29
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Wed Mar-08-06 06:54 PM Response to Reply #16 |
90. I thought DNA stood for "Dad's Not Around" |
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UpInArms
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Wed Mar-08-06 04:30 PM Response to Reply #5 |
45. maybe Shotgun Weddings will return to vogue. |
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wordpix2
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Wed Mar-08-06 03:34 PM Response to Original message |
6. sorry but once the baby's born, you're a father & obligated to pay support |
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sui generis
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Wed Mar-08-06 03:51 PM Response to Reply #6 |
23. with one exception ONLY |
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Caoimhe
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Wed Mar-08-06 03:35 PM Response to Original message |
7. When men start dying in childbirth, they get a choice nt |
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JuniorPlankton
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Wed Mar-08-06 03:39 PM Response to Reply #7 |
11. Please... |
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Caoimhe
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Wed Mar-08-06 03:41 PM Response to Reply #11 |
15. Biology isn't fair, and yes autonomy over my body is about |
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mondo joe
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Thu Mar-09-06 10:00 AM Response to Reply #15 |
205. I don't think you'll like it when antichoicers use your "biology isn't |
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sarcasmo
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Thu Mar-09-06 11:35 AM Response to Reply #7 |
227. So when a Man's sperm leaves his body he no longer has any rights. |
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RazzleDazzle
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Thu Mar-09-06 10:56 PM Response to Reply #227 |
314. Actually, the reverse, which is apparently what you propose, |
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Avalux
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Wed Mar-08-06 03:38 PM Response to Original message |
10. "his ex-girlfriend's daugher" - is he the sperm donor? |
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ihaveaquestion
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Wed Mar-08-06 03:39 PM Response to Original message |
12. Why is is always about the money for these jerks? |
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SaveElmer
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Wed Mar-08-06 03:44 PM Response to Reply #12 |
19. Well if you read the article... |
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Darth_Kitten
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Wed Mar-08-06 07:34 PM Response to Reply #19 |
104. with these characters though it's almost ALWAYS about the money..... |
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AnneD
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Wed Mar-08-06 04:50 PM Response to Reply #12 |
51. AMEN, Sister.... |
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BoneDaddy
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Thu Mar-09-06 11:13 AM Response to Reply #51 |
224. Clarify |
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AnneD
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Thu Mar-09-06 01:43 PM Response to Reply #224 |
240. There are a lot of jerks out there, BoneDaddy, |
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BoneDaddy
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Thu Mar-09-06 01:52 PM Response to Reply #240 |
241. I hear ya |
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LafayetteTGR
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Thu Mar-09-06 02:13 PM Response to Reply #51 |
246. What an Awful story! |
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AnneD
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Thu Mar-09-06 02:50 PM Response to Reply #246 |
254. If I had a do over... |
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LafayetteTGR
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Thu Mar-09-06 04:06 PM Response to Reply #254 |
264. My ex and your ex sound very similar |
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AnneD
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Thu Mar-09-06 05:59 PM Response to Reply #264 |
272. One of the things that I have come to believe, with all my heart.... |
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LafayetteTGR
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Thu Mar-09-06 09:06 PM Response to Reply #272 |
303. Thank you for sharing! |
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Thu Mar-09-06 07:46 PM Response to Reply #51 |
286. Sounds like it's all about money with YOU |
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RazzleDazzle
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Thu Mar-09-06 11:11 PM Response to Reply #286 |
316. I love these little anti-woman outbursts |
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sandnsea
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Fri Mar-10-06 12:13 AM Response to Reply #316 |
319. It's pro-woman actually |
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Katherine Brengle
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Fri Mar-10-06 12:57 PM Response to Reply #319 |
374. Women should absolutely be required to pay child support if... |
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xmas74
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Wed Mar-08-06 03:39 PM Response to Original message |
13. I just received a link to this via Yahoo from my ex. |
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Caoimhe
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Wed Mar-08-06 03:42 PM Response to Reply #13 |
17. Wow what a pig |
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xmas74
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Wed Mar-08-06 03:55 PM Response to Reply #17 |
24. He is a pig. |
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Wed Mar-08-06 04:27 PM Response to Reply #17 |
42. Yes - what a pig. |
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Darth_Kitten
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Wed Mar-08-06 07:36 PM Response to Reply #13 |
107. that's terrible. |
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xmas74
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Wed Mar-08-06 09:20 PM Response to Reply #107 |
150. He's an ass. |
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LostinVA
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Wed Mar-08-06 08:28 PM Response to Reply #13 |
133. Good god.... what a tool |
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xmas74
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Wed Mar-08-06 09:21 PM Response to Reply #133 |
151. I pick winners, |
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RazzleDazzle
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Thu Mar-09-06 10:44 PM Response to Reply #13 |
312. IMO there are worse things than deadbeat dads |
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xmas74
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Fri Mar-10-06 10:20 AM Response to Reply #312 |
341. I don't have a choice right now. |
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Wed Mar-08-06 03:43 PM Response to Original message |
18. "Pre-Roe ethic," my ass. |
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Sivafae
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Wed Mar-08-06 07:48 PM Response to Reply #18 |
113. And this should be done before the 12 weeks are up when woman can get an |
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atommom
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Wed Mar-08-06 10:54 PM Response to Reply #113 |
154. More education is always a good thing. |
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MindPilot
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Wed Mar-08-06 03:50 PM Response to Original message |
22. how come in all these discussions, nobody mentions the v-word? |
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Wed Mar-08-06 04:00 PM Response to Reply #22 |
27. Nope |
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Shakespeare
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Wed Mar-08-06 04:03 PM Response to Reply #27 |
28. No, a vasectomy is the equivalent of having your tubes tied. |
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MindPilot
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Wed Mar-08-06 04:15 PM Response to Reply #28 |
33. Its nowhere close to a tubal ligation |
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Shakespeare
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Wed Mar-08-06 04:18 PM Response to Reply #33 |
36. So is a vasectomy. |
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MindPilot
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Wed Mar-08-06 04:21 PM Response to Reply #36 |
39. When I said "I had mine done" |
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Shakespeare
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Wed Mar-08-06 04:26 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. AH....then we're in agreement! |
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Inland
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Wed Mar-08-06 05:54 PM Original message |
Easy to do, but I think it's hard to reverse. |
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Katherine Brengle
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Fri Mar-10-06 12:59 PM Response to Reply #33 |
376. Exactly--a tubal ligation is a far more invasive procedure than a... |
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AnneD
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Wed Mar-08-06 05:08 PM Response to Reply #28 |
57. Thanks the comparison is on target... |
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superconnected
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Wed Mar-08-06 04:20 PM Response to Reply #27 |
38. Many vasectomys can be reversed. |
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MindPilot
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Wed Mar-08-06 04:52 PM Response to Reply #38 |
54. Birth control is 100% men's responsibility?! |
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superconnected
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Wed Mar-08-06 07:24 PM Response to Reply #54 |
97. Nope |
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RazzleDazzle
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Thu Mar-09-06 11:25 PM Response to Reply #54 |
317. You're the one I'm worried about on that issue |
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Boojatta
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Fri Mar-10-06 08:49 AM Response to Reply #38 |
334. What would Darwin say? |
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HuffleClaw
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Wed Mar-08-06 04:43 PM Response to Reply #27 |
48. it is difficult in the US i hear, far more so than in canada |
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MissMillie
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Thu Mar-09-06 09:47 AM Response to Reply #27 |
197. not the equivalent of a hysterectomy |
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superconnected
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Wed Mar-08-06 04:05 PM Response to Reply #22 |
29. It comes down to financial cop out and not taking responsibility. |
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China_cat
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Wed Mar-08-06 04:17 PM Response to Reply #22 |
34. No, a 15 year old can't consent to ANY medical procedure |
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Blue_Tires
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Wed Mar-08-06 05:58 PM Response to Reply #22 |
75. i plan to get one once i get the $$$$ |
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Yupster
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Wed Mar-08-06 08:15 PM Response to Reply #22 |
123. Yeah nobody mentions the h word either |
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Shakespeare
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Thu Mar-09-06 12:00 PM Response to Reply #123 |
238. Do you understand what a hysterectomy involves? |
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SaveElmer
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Wed Mar-08-06 03:57 PM Response to Original message |
25. The tone of this thread shows me reform is needed... |
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Yupster
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Wed Mar-08-06 08:18 PM Response to Reply #25 |
124. State run child support pools are |
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Megahurtz
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Wed Mar-08-06 04:15 PM Response to Original message |
32. LOL!!! Good Luck On That One Dudes!!! |
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Wed Mar-08-06 04:18 PM Response to Original message |
35. Having a friend who was thoroughly tricked into fathering a child, |
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Mountainman
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Wed Mar-08-06 04:23 PM Response to Reply #35 |
40. The monthly check is for the kid not the mother! |
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MissMillie
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Thu Mar-09-06 09:53 AM Response to Reply #40 |
202. Thank you! |
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Thu Mar-09-06 07:31 PM Response to Reply #40 |
284. theoretically ... it doesn't always get to the kid |
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superconnected
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Wed Mar-08-06 04:30 PM Response to Reply #35 |
43. and he 100 percent deserved to be hit with a child support bill over it |
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Wed Mar-08-06 04:49 PM Response to Reply #43 |
50. Wow. |
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Caoimhe
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Wed Mar-08-06 04:52 PM Response to Reply #50 |
53. Take personal responsibility for your reproduction |
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MindPilot
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Wed Mar-08-06 05:08 PM Response to Reply #50 |
58. Didn't you know? Pregnancy is ALWAYS the man's fault. |
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sui generis
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Wed Mar-08-06 05:40 PM Response to Reply #58 |
63. it's BOTH |
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Caoimhe
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Wed Mar-08-06 06:15 PM Response to Reply #63 |
78. EXACTLY! n/t |
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kitkatrose
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Wed Mar-08-06 06:52 PM Response to Reply #63 |
89. Thank you!!!!!!!!!! |
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sui generis
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Wed Mar-08-06 05:34 PM Response to Reply #50 |
61. yeah - I wouldn't want my child raised by that mother |
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bettyellen
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Wed Mar-08-06 05:54 PM Response to Reply #50 |
71. so lying to someone is equivalent to drugging and the raping someone? |
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superconnected
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Fri Mar-10-06 12:21 PM Response to Reply #71 |
369. everything they're saying is fucked up |
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LincolnMcGrath
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Fri Mar-10-06 12:41 PM Response to Reply #369 |
371. Calling members pedos and sex offenders is what is fucked up here. |
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MissMillie
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Thu Mar-09-06 10:00 AM Response to Reply #50 |
206. I hate to say this, but yes.... on both counts |
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Kailassa
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Fri Mar-10-06 10:50 AM Response to Reply #206 |
352. MissMillie, don't assume it's that easy to stay safe |
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Caoimhe
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Wed Mar-08-06 04:50 PM Response to Reply #43 |
52. very well said! |
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Solon
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Wed Mar-08-06 05:17 PM Response to Reply #43 |
60. What about the reverse? |
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sui generis
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Wed Mar-08-06 05:38 PM Response to Reply #60 |
62. well that's not right, as you've noted |
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Solon
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Wed Mar-08-06 05:46 PM Response to Reply #62 |
68. No, still single... |
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sui generis
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Wed Mar-08-06 06:00 PM Response to Reply #68 |
76. I'd keep pulling credit reports on her |
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Caoimhe
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Wed Mar-08-06 06:19 PM Response to Reply #76 |
80. Yes they can put a lien on her property |
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Solon
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Wed Mar-08-06 06:43 PM Response to Reply #80 |
86. She has no property, and no income... |
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happyslug
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Wed Mar-08-06 05:57 PM Response to Reply #62 |
74. Remarry or having more children has not effect in most states |
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superconnected
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Wed Mar-08-06 07:12 PM Response to Reply #60 |
95. I don't believe you. My own mother paid child support. |
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Solon
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Wed Mar-08-06 07:27 PM Response to Reply #95 |
100. I didn't say they don't, I said it is difficult to get child support... |
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superconnected
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Wed Mar-08-06 07:32 PM Response to Reply #100 |
103. oooh sexism that favored a woman. |
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Solon
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Wed Mar-08-06 07:34 PM Response to Reply #103 |
105. No, but I'm beginning to think you are one sided here... |
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superconnected
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Wed Mar-08-06 07:44 PM Response to Reply #105 |
111. Have I ever said women can do no wrong? |
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Wed Mar-08-06 08:04 PM Response to Reply #111 |
117. How many men on this board have you accused of being irresponsible? |
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Wed Mar-08-06 08:15 PM Response to Reply #117 |
122. you poor man. |
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Wed Mar-08-06 08:20 PM Response to Reply #122 |
125. And you prove the point beautifully that men don't have a lock... |
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Wed Mar-08-06 08:28 PM Response to Reply #103 |
134. Do you hate women? |
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Thu Mar-09-06 09:04 AM Response to Reply #103 |
186. Yeah cause discrimination is ok if it's against men. |
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Thu Mar-09-06 08:59 PM Response to Reply #186 |
301. There are times when I really question my commitment to equality |
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Fri Mar-10-06 07:19 AM Response to Reply #301 |
325. Yes there are a lot of people who think like that |
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Wed Mar-08-06 08:25 PM Response to Reply #60 |
130. Then there's the guy whose wife |
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Wed Mar-08-06 08:36 PM Response to Reply #130 |
137. Be careful Yupster... |
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Thu Mar-09-06 11:43 AM Response to Reply #130 |
233. I've seen that posted here before, but I don't believe it |
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Fri Mar-10-06 08:05 AM Response to Reply #233 |
326. In PA, it is virtually conclusive... |
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Fri Mar-10-06 08:08 AM Response to Reply #130 |
327. A sucker? |
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Thu Mar-09-06 11:26 AM Response to Reply #60 |
225. Of course he has legal recourse -- in all 50 states |
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Wed Mar-08-06 05:49 PM Response to Reply #43 |
69. You just perfectly proved my point. My friend DID take responsibility, |
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Wed Mar-08-06 06:49 PM Response to Reply #69 |
88. I wouldn't be surprised if your friend accidentally does it again. |
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Wed Mar-08-06 06:54 PM Response to Reply #88 |
91. You seem to have a lot of hostility towards men, period... |
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Wed Mar-08-06 07:26 PM Response to Reply #91 |
99. I have no hostility. |
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Wed Mar-08-06 07:28 PM Response to Reply #91 |
101. I'm not making any judgements accept over your blame game. |
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Wed Mar-08-06 07:31 PM Response to Reply #101 |
102. Your the one who seems to think FORCING men to undergo a medical... |
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Wed Mar-08-06 07:54 PM Response to Reply #102 |
115. because unless they are raped |
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Wed Mar-08-06 08:07 PM Response to Reply #115 |
118. Since when have all women taken responsibility for pregnancy... |
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Wed Mar-08-06 08:24 PM Response to Reply #118 |
129. More |
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Wed Mar-08-06 08:29 PM Response to Reply #129 |
135. So who is the whiner again? |
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Wed Mar-08-06 08:38 PM Response to Reply #135 |
138. odd |
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Wed Mar-08-06 08:43 PM Response to Reply #138 |
142. Who is generalizing here? |
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Wed Mar-08-06 08:53 PM Response to Reply #115 |
146. What about men who are raped? n/t |
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Thu Mar-09-06 11:29 AM Response to Reply #146 |
226. That isn't even funny -- joking about rape is never okay |
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Thu Mar-09-06 01:52 PM Response to Reply #226 |
242. Tell me, wheres the fucking joke? n/t |
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Thu Mar-09-06 09:34 AM Response to Reply #115 |
193. If women are fully responsible for their actions, they won't need |
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Thu Mar-09-06 11:42 AM Response to Reply #91 |
232. Solon, you have entered the Man bashing area of D/U. |
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Wed Mar-08-06 07:51 PM Response to Reply #88 |
114. Actually, I have two children 9 and 11. I have provided for them |
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Wed Mar-08-06 08:22 PM Response to Reply #43 |
126. Women always see to birth control? |
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Thu Mar-09-06 09:40 AM Response to Reply #126 |
195. Zing! |
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Wed Mar-08-06 05:42 PM Response to Original message |
65. lol |
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Wed Mar-08-06 05:50 PM Response to Original message |
70. The BIG Issue should be what is best for the child? |
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Wed Mar-08-06 05:56 PM Response to Original message |
72. Time for Lysistrata-like behavior, girls, especially you gals up in |
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Wed Mar-08-06 05:57 PM Response to Original message |
73. jeez |
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Thu Mar-09-06 11:59 AM Response to Reply #73 |
237. Why pitohui, you are such a man hater |
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Wed Mar-08-06 06:08 PM Response to Original message |
77. The man's body, the man's choice |
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Wed Mar-08-06 06:22 PM Response to Reply #77 |
81. Forced Vasectomys is the answer. |
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Wed Mar-08-06 06:36 PM Response to Reply #81 |
83. Why the seeming hostility? Since when is choice bad? |
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Wed Mar-08-06 06:38 PM Response to Reply #83 |
84. No hostility. Just a suggestion. |
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Wed Mar-08-06 07:39 PM Response to Reply #84 |
108. Forced deliveries and vasectomys for all :) |
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Thu Mar-09-06 09:14 AM Response to Reply #84 |
187. That is the most ridiculous thing I have ever read in my life. nt |
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Thu Mar-09-06 10:03 AM Response to Reply #84 |
207. Don't forget forced depo-provera. |
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Thu Mar-09-06 02:40 PM Response to Reply #84 |
250. Lol! "free wheeling penis! Lol! |
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Thu Mar-09-06 06:12 PM Response to Reply #84 |
275. Wonderful suggestion, but too generous to men. |
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Thu Mar-09-06 09:52 PM Response to Reply #275 |
308. Really? Do you feel the same way about forced hysterectomies |
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Wed Mar-08-06 06:43 PM Response to Reply #83 |
85. And the child's choice.. not to eat or wear clothing |
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Wed Mar-08-06 07:36 PM Response to Reply #85 |
106. Tis not a child until born though, correct? |
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Wed Mar-08-06 06:48 PM Response to Reply #81 |
87. Lol! That's funny...... |
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Wed Mar-08-06 07:42 PM Response to Reply #81 |
110. That's fine... |
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Thu Mar-09-06 09:16 AM Response to Reply #110 |
188. Yeah, but it doesen't matter |
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Wed Mar-08-06 08:36 PM Response to Reply #81 |
136. So you think an accidental pregnancy should result in the man |
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Wed Mar-08-06 08:49 PM Response to Reply #136 |
145. Actually, only the men... |
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Thu Mar-09-06 09:17 AM Response to Reply #145 |
189. Well that's because we suck. |
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Thu Mar-09-06 09:47 AM Response to Reply #81 |
196. Sure - provided there is forced depo-provera for women who |
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Thu Mar-09-06 02:44 PM Response to Reply #196 |
252. Why do the women get the easily reversible procedure? |
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Thu Mar-09-06 06:12 PM Response to Reply #252 |
274. Either way it's not a medically equivalent procedure. |
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Thu Mar-09-06 02:57 PM Response to Reply #81 |
258. as a pro-choice feminist here, I have to say that this is the most vile |
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Wed Mar-08-06 06:17 PM Response to Original message |
79. Is this from that group of weird guys |
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Wed Mar-08-06 06:55 PM Response to Original message |
92. As a former single father |
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Wed Mar-08-06 07:08 PM Response to Reply #92 |
93. See above post. |
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Wed Mar-08-06 07:10 PM Response to Reply #92 |
94. Nope |
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Wed Mar-08-06 08:39 PM Response to Reply #94 |
139. AS RFK said |
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Wed Mar-08-06 07:40 PM Response to Reply #92 |
109. How about the inequalities everywhere? |
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Wed Mar-08-06 08:01 PM Response to Reply #109 |
116. My niece and her 6yo live with me. |
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Wed Mar-08-06 07:22 PM Response to Original message |
96. my heart bleeds...... |
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Wed Mar-08-06 07:25 PM Response to Original message |
98. They can opt out by using a condom. |
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Wed Mar-08-06 07:47 PM Response to Reply #98 |
112. Just pray to god... |
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Thu Mar-09-06 01:02 AM Response to Reply #112 |
155. If your looking to avoid 18 years of child support... |
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Wed Mar-08-06 08:40 PM Response to Reply #98 |
140. Good idea |
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Wed Mar-08-06 08:27 PM Response to Original message |
132. Why is it that only the men who are arseholes in these cases? |
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Wed Mar-08-06 08:42 PM Response to Reply #132 |
141. well, guess men have no control over whether or not the get a woman |
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Wed Mar-08-06 10:54 PM Response to Reply #141 |
153. Not so. I said that their reproductive choices today |
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Wed Mar-08-06 08:48 PM Response to Reply #132 |
144. This sounds similar to a proposal I've been making |
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Wed Mar-08-06 08:54 PM Response to Reply #144 |
147. I think you're absolutely wrong. |
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Thu Mar-09-06 09:52 AM Response to Reply #147 |
200. You said women are FULLY RESPONSIBLE for their actions. |
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Wed Mar-08-06 09:13 PM Response to Reply #144 |
148. Dude, that's whacked... |
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Wed Mar-08-06 09:24 PM Response to Reply #144 |
152. Women are particularly vulnerable to being murdered while pregnant. |
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Thu Mar-09-06 09:48 AM Response to Reply #144 |
198. If the mother signs the agreement & then gets sick or loses her job.... |
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Thu Mar-09-06 09:56 PM Response to Reply #198 |
309. Same as any parents who loses a job or gets sick. |
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Fri Mar-10-06 08:18 AM Original message |
And where do the taxpayers get THEIR choice in your scheme? |
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Fri Mar-10-06 08:59 AM Response to Original message |
336. I haven't presented a scheme, have I? |
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Thu Mar-09-06 06:43 PM Response to Reply #144 |
278. This is the most reasonable answer to this debate I've ever heard. |
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Fri Mar-10-06 08:16 AM Response to Reply #144 |
328. Fair to Whom? |
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Thu Mar-09-06 03:35 AM Response to Original message |
156. Men's Rights Group Eyes Child Support Stay |
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Thu Mar-09-06 03:35 AM Response to Reply #156 |
157. this men's group is insance. Google them. |
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Thu Mar-09-06 03:35 AM Response to Reply #156 |
158. ....there's a Men's Rights group? |
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Thu Mar-09-06 03:35 AM Response to Reply #156 |
159. BattyDem predicted this. |
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Thu Mar-09-06 03:35 AM Response to Reply #156 |
160. I'm not surprised... |
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Thu Mar-09-06 03:35 AM Response to Reply #156 |
161. So Women can be forced to have children that no one wants to support |
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Thu Mar-09-06 03:35 AM Response to Reply #161 |
177. That's pretty much it. No abortions, no child support... |
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Thu Mar-09-06 03:35 AM Response to Reply #156 |
162. Men's rights--"get it snipped, or keep it ZIPPED" |
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Thu Mar-09-06 03:35 AM Response to Reply #162 |
165. This is the same argument pro-lifers use |
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Thu Mar-09-06 03:35 AM Response to Reply #165 |
172. Deleted message |
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Thu Mar-09-06 03:35 AM Response to Reply #172 |
174. what?! |
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Thu Mar-09-06 03:35 AM Response to Reply #174 |
175. welcome to DU Crandor, |
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Thu Mar-09-06 03:35 AM Response to Reply #175 |
176. actually |
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Thu Mar-09-06 03:35 AM Response to Reply #174 |
178. Why doesn't anybody ever address the issue of birth control? |
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Thu Mar-09-06 03:35 AM Response to Reply #178 |
180. failed birth control springs to mind immediately. as does rape. |
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Thu Mar-09-06 03:35 AM Response to Reply #174 |
182. A man is going to be forced to have a child against his will. |
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Thu Mar-09-06 09:30 AM Response to Reply #174 |
192. Hell, I KNOW a woman |
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Thu Mar-09-06 09:49 AM Response to Reply #192 |
199. I know two women who did it - but I have to say in both cases it led to |
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Thu Mar-09-06 09:53 AM Response to Reply #199 |
201. The difference is that in this case, it wasn't her husband |
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Thu Mar-09-06 03:35 AM Response to Reply #162 |
171. don't make love |
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Thu Mar-09-06 03:43 PM Response to Reply #171 |
261. and if his glove breaks... |
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Thu Mar-09-06 07:24 PM Response to Reply #261 |
283. my teachings were somewhere along the line |
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Thu Mar-09-06 11:48 AM Response to Reply #162 |
234. Womens' rights |
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Thu Mar-09-06 03:35 AM Response to Reply #156 |
163. That strikes me as a weak argument |
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Thu Mar-09-06 03:35 AM Response to Reply #163 |
168. That's a fairly low standard |
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Thu Mar-09-06 03:35 AM Response to Reply #168 |
169. I forgot all of the "what if's?" |
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Thu Mar-09-06 03:35 AM Response to Reply #169 |
173. Just making a point |
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Thu Mar-09-06 10:11 AM Response to Reply #168 |
210. But we have low standards for custodial parents as well. |
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Thu Mar-09-06 03:35 AM Response to Reply #156 |
164. Hilarious and horrid at the same time. Will go nowhere. |
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Thu Mar-09-06 03:35 AM Response to Reply #156 |
166. This federal lawsuit is stupid . . . |
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Thu Mar-09-06 03:35 AM Response to Reply #166 |
167. you're using anti-abortionist logic |
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Thu Mar-09-06 03:35 AM Response to Reply #167 |
170. Uuummm, no. I'm using "best interests of the child" standard. n/t |
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Thu Mar-09-06 09:30 AM Response to Reply #170 |
191. Wouldn't that apply to abortion as well? |
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Thu Mar-09-06 03:35 AM Response to Reply #167 |
183. How bout this. |
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Thu Mar-09-06 03:35 AM Response to Reply #156 |
179. If he doesn't want to support a child he can wear a condom or |
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Thu Mar-09-06 10:04 AM Response to Reply #179 |
208. If prevention is the simple answer to unwanted pregnancy, is there a |
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Thu Mar-09-06 02:05 PM Response to Reply #208 |
244. I agree. except in cases of rape and incest. When sex is not consentual, |
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Thu Mar-09-06 05:54 PM Response to Reply #244 |
270. Oh - I assumed you were pro-choice. My mistake. n/t |
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Thu Mar-09-06 09:17 PM Response to Reply #270 |
304. I obviously did not make muself clear. I am Pro choice. The issue was abou |
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Thu Mar-09-06 09:33 PM Response to Reply #304 |
306. Wait a minute. You believe if a man doesn't want a child he should use |
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Thu Mar-09-06 03:35 AM Response to Reply #156 |
181. Duplicate |
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Thu Mar-09-06 08:44 AM Response to Original message |
185. This has been a long time coming. Kick and Nom |
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Thu Mar-09-06 09:56 AM Response to Reply #185 |
203. Are you paying for an ex-girlfriend's daughter by another man? |
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Thu Mar-09-06 10:36 AM Response to Reply #203 |
212. Because I want a Man to have rights you assume I am a bad Father. |
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Thu Mar-09-06 10:52 AM Response to Reply #212 |
214. How would better "Man rights" have saved you from this dreadful situation? |
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Thu Mar-09-06 11:03 AM Response to Reply #214 |
218. See post 217 |
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Thu Mar-09-06 11:06 AM Response to Reply #218 |
219. Did you dump her before or after you knocked her up? |
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Thu Mar-09-06 09:25 AM Response to Original message |
190. I sort of see the point in this |
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Thu Mar-09-06 09:34 AM Response to Reply #190 |
194. No it's not |
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Thu Mar-09-06 10:06 AM Response to Reply #190 |
209. The unfortunate reality of all this |
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Thu Mar-09-06 11:00 AM Response to Reply #209 |
216. The reality of it is that Men have NO rights when it comes to an Abortion. |
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Thu Mar-09-06 11:06 AM Response to Reply #216 |
220. Certainly you don't think I was doing any man bashing |
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Thu Mar-09-06 11:36 AM Response to Reply #220 |
228. When a Man's sperm leaves his body according to just about every Women |
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Thu Mar-09-06 03:33 PM Response to Reply #228 |
260. I won't say that you have no rights |
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Thu Mar-09-06 10:55 AM Response to Reply #190 |
215. Child support is not for the mother.... |
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Thu Mar-09-06 04:40 PM Response to Reply #215 |
266. what I don't like about your argument: |
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Thu Mar-09-06 06:01 PM Response to Reply #266 |
273. Right. The anti-choicers treat having a child like punishment |
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Thu Mar-09-06 06:27 PM Response to Reply #273 |
276. I am a woman and if I got pregnant |
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Thu Mar-09-06 08:53 PM Response to Reply #276 |
297. I'm not a woman, but I'd like to think if I were I'd do the same. |
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Thu Mar-09-06 10:59 PM Response to Reply #266 |
315. Because as a society... |
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Thu Mar-09-06 10:32 AM Response to Original message |
211. Hey, dude, you already got plenty of rights: |
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Thu Mar-09-06 11:39 AM Response to Reply #211 |
230. "Pecker in your pants" I guess the women could have kept her panties on |
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Fri Mar-10-06 11:41 AM Response to Reply #230 |
363. I agree...it is amazing how hypocritical most of these arguments are |
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Thu Mar-09-06 10:49 AM Response to Original message |
213. Our bodies...our RIght! Enough said ol' white men. Grow female organs |
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Thu Mar-09-06 11:02 AM Response to Reply #213 |
217. It takes two to make a baby, but only one gets to choose to have the baby. |
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Thu Mar-09-06 11:08 AM Response to Reply #217 |
221. Why does your profile say you're female? |
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Thu Mar-09-06 11:37 AM Response to Reply #221 |
229. What makes you think I am not female. |
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Thu Mar-09-06 02:42 PM Response to Reply #229 |
251. Because you're complaining about paying support for your daughter.... |
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Thu Mar-09-06 12:07 PM Response to Reply #217 |
239. That's because only one person CARRIES the baby and gives birth. |
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Thu Mar-09-06 11:39 AM Response to Original message |
231. Figures . . . . . |
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Thu Mar-09-06 11:50 AM Response to Original message |
235. This Is Beyond Stupid |
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Thu Mar-09-06 11:54 AM Response to Original message |
236. Hey, pansy-men, it's called RESPONSIBILITY. DEAL. |
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Thu Mar-09-06 02:01 PM Response to Reply #236 |
243. I've been wishing for this for years... |
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Thu Mar-09-06 02:56 PM Response to Reply #243 |
257. A woman HAS to take responsibility whether she... |
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Thu Mar-09-06 02:31 PM Response to Reply #236 |
248. Thank you... |
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Thu Mar-09-06 02:37 PM Response to Reply #236 |
249. Right On Frank! And here's for the Whiners: |
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Thu Mar-09-06 02:53 PM Response to Reply #249 |
255. Here's the solution.... |
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Thu Mar-09-06 07:32 PM Response to Reply #255 |
285. That idea makes sense, |
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Thu Mar-09-06 02:55 PM Response to Original message |
256. I agree with this in cases of fraud. |
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Thu Mar-09-06 03:11 PM Response to Reply #256 |
259. Your friend, I'm sorry to tell you, was an idiot |
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Thu Mar-09-06 07:59 PM Response to Reply #259 |
288. I agree with you completely |
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Thu Mar-09-06 03:48 PM Response to Reply #256 |
262. that's despicable! |
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Thu Mar-09-06 06:52 PM Response to Reply #262 |
280. What responsibility does a sperm donor have? |
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Fri Mar-10-06 12:38 AM Response to Reply #280 |
320. Quite a he-man your friend is |
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Fri Mar-10-06 11:37 AM Response to Reply #280 |
361. I'm not saying he's contractually obligated. |
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Fri Mar-10-06 11:57 AM Response to Reply #361 |
367. Indeed. Based on so many posts on this topic you'd think |
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Thu Mar-09-06 03:54 PM Response to Original message |
263. While this is wrong, there DOES need to be some changes! |
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Thu Mar-09-06 04:54 PM Response to Reply #263 |
267. And if the woman's financial situation changes.... |
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Thu Mar-09-06 05:36 PM Response to Reply #267 |
269. Wow, you went off in the wrong direction! |
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Thu Mar-09-06 06:38 PM Response to Reply #269 |
277. Well, if men who wanted to keep the baby become Deadbeat Dads.... |
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Thu Mar-09-06 05:55 PM Response to Reply #267 |
271. How is he impregnating them? |
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Thu Mar-09-06 06:46 PM Response to Reply #271 |
279. I believe guys who think this way.... |
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Thu Mar-09-06 08:46 PM Response to Reply #279 |
294. Well, thank you for your wonderful insight! |
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Thu Mar-09-06 08:56 PM Response to Reply #294 |
299. It's interesting that if a woman doesn't want to be a mother it's a |
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Thu Mar-09-06 08:52 PM Response to Reply #279 |
296. Not my problem - I'm gay. But please explain how your hypothetical |
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Thu Mar-09-06 06:57 PM Response to Reply #263 |
281. Post conception men have numerous rights |
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Thu Mar-09-06 08:49 PM Response to Reply #281 |
295. Thats a narrow look at it. |
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Thu Mar-09-06 07:08 PM Response to Reply #263 |
282. Guys who don't want to face the consequences... |
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Thu Mar-09-06 08:54 PM Response to Reply #282 |
298. Your delusional |
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Fri Mar-10-06 12:50 AM Response to Reply #298 |
321. Oh, my God in Heaven. Do you HEAR yourself? |
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Fri Mar-10-06 11:32 AM Response to Reply #321 |
359. If you would calm yourself for just a moment.... |
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Fri Mar-10-06 11:36 AM Response to Reply #321 |
360. "few if any men can even begin to comprehend" |
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Fri Mar-10-06 11:24 AM Response to Reply #298 |
358. My delusional? |
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Thu Mar-09-06 07:50 PM Response to Reply #263 |
287. It can't be that way |
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Thu Mar-09-06 08:09 PM Response to Original message |
289. I really do hate men |
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Thu Mar-09-06 08:57 PM Response to Reply #289 |
300. It's their fault if a woman gets "pregent" or not? |
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Fri Mar-10-06 08:20 AM Response to Reply #300 |
330. ECH1969 is male...according to his profile. |
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Thu Mar-09-06 08:18 PM Response to Original message |
291. Just imagine when Roe is Overturned |
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Thu Mar-09-06 08:32 PM Response to Reply #291 |
292. I'm almost wondering if this group pushing this |
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Thu Mar-09-06 09:01 PM Response to Reply #292 |
302. That may be it. But the group proposing it really do hate women. |
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Thu Mar-09-06 08:38 PM Response to Original message |
293. Deadbeat Dads, unite! |
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Thu Mar-09-06 09:18 PM Response to Reply #293 |
305. how about men who arent capable of sentient feelings unite |
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Thu Mar-09-06 09:50 PM Response to Reply #305 |
307. Good argument for mandatory depo-provera for women |
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Thu Mar-09-06 10:00 PM Response to Reply #307 |
310. Depro vera was pulled off the market, it caused cysts in women. |
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Thu Mar-09-06 11:52 PM Response to Reply #310 |
318. Another solution will become available. |
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Fri Mar-10-06 10:13 AM Response to Reply #318 |
339. Men have full choice over thier actions. |
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Fri Mar-10-06 10:17 AM Response to Reply #339 |
340. Men and women both make choices. We can expect both to be responsible |
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Fri Mar-10-06 12:56 AM Response to Reply #307 |
322. I worry for your daughters |
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Fri Mar-10-06 01:21 AM Response to Reply #322 |
324. Only because you're mistaken. |
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Thu Mar-09-06 10:34 PM Response to Original message |
311. I am 100% in favor of this |
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Thu Mar-09-06 10:45 PM Response to Original message |
313. Is it too late to abort "The National Center for Men"? |
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Fri Mar-10-06 01:14 AM Response to Original message |
323. Hmmm. . . . The problem is bad faith |
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Fri Mar-10-06 08:18 AM Response to Original message |
329. Wonderful - limits on abortion rights, and now this ... |
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Fri Mar-10-06 08:29 AM Response to Original message |
331. Men.... |
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Fri Mar-10-06 08:35 AM Response to Original message |
332. I wonder if all the posters agreeing with the National Center for Men... |
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Fri Mar-10-06 10:29 AM Response to Reply #332 |
344. I doubt they have. Most women won't go out with men who don't have |
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Fri Mar-10-06 08:43 AM Response to Original message |
333. if he dosnt want the child |
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Fri Mar-10-06 10:23 AM Response to Reply #333 |
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Fri Mar-10-06 10:27 AM Response to Reply #342 |
343. Who is allowing men to have sex with no birth control? |
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Fri Mar-10-06 10:34 AM Response to Reply #343 |
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Fri Mar-10-06 10:37 AM Response to Reply #345 |
346. Please cease your personal attacks and address the issues. |
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Fri Mar-10-06 10:39 AM Response to Reply #346 |
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Fri Mar-10-06 10:41 AM Response to Reply #345 |
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Fri Mar-10-06 10:45 AM Response to Reply #348 |
349. excuse me? |
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Fri Mar-10-06 10:49 AM Response to Reply #349 |
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Fri Mar-10-06 10:56 AM Response to Reply #351 |
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Fri Mar-10-06 11:20 AM Response to Reply #354 |
356. Reality |
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Fri Mar-10-06 11:39 AM Response to Reply #354 |
362. Which really equates to the exact same thing. |
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Fri Mar-10-06 11:49 AM Response to Reply #362 |
365. I also don't know when choice became "victimization". |
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Fri Mar-10-06 11:52 AM Response to Reply #365 |
366. Yes I've noticed that. |
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Fri Mar-10-06 12:43 PM Response to Reply #362 |
372. Still at it, above. Sex Offenders NOW |
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Fri Mar-10-06 09:05 AM Response to Original message |
337. P.A.T.H.E.T.I.C. |
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Fri Mar-10-06 12:12 PM Response to Reply #337 |
368. and now we're seeing the pack mentality. |
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Fri Mar-10-06 10:51 AM Response to Original message |
353. if he could sucessfully argue for deception on part of the women-it might |
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Fri Mar-10-06 11:09 AM Response to Reply #353 |
355. Somehow, I doubt that Mr Feit should fear an unwanted pregnancy. |
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Fri Mar-10-06 11:44 AM Response to Original message |
364. I'm for equal rights: |
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Fri Mar-10-06 12:40 PM Response to Original message |
370. Who could just turn their back on their baby and let it go hungry? |
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Fri Mar-10-06 12:58 PM Response to Reply #370 |
375. Now this answer is very level headed. |
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Fri Mar-10-06 01:08 PM Response to Original message |
377. Lock |
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