[Pat] Robertson called for the assassination of Venezuela's president

[owillis]

http://mediamatters.org/items/200508220006

Pat Robertson, host of Christian Broadcasting Network's The 700 Club and founder of the Christian Coalition of America, called for the assassination of Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez.

From the August 22 broadcast of The 700 Club:

ROBERTSON: There was a popular coup that overthrew him . And what did the United States State Department do about it? Virtually nothing. And as a result, within about 48 hours that coup was broken; Chavez was back in power, but we had a chance to move in. He has destroyed the Venezuelan economy, and he's going to make that a launching pad for communist infiltration and Muslim extremism all over the continent.

You know, I don't know about this doctrine of assassination, but if he thinks we're trying to assassinate him, I think that we really ought to go ahead and do it. It's a whole lot cheaper than starting a war. And I don't think any oil shipments will stop. But this man is a terrific danger and the United ... This is in our sphere of influence, so we can't let this happen. We have the Monroe Doctrine, we have other doctrines that we have announced. And without question, this is a dangerous enemy to our south, controlling a huge pool of oil, that could hurt us very badly. We have the ability to take him out, and I think the time has come that we exercise that ability. We don't need another $200 billion war to get rid of one, you know, strong-arm dictator. It's a whole lot easier to have some of the covert operatives do the job and then get it over with.

[still_one]

1. Isn't that the "christian" thing to do?

[VegasWolf]

10. I guess that hypocrisy doesn't matter to the christians. How can grown

people believe the crap these people spew?

[anotherdrew]

21. he and his followers are NOT christian in ANY way

[VegasWolf]

29. That is not what they say, they say they are the righteous ones. It's

all so confusing to us atheists! And our government, the IRS, even
agrees with Pat that he is a christian!

[Jo March]

273. A cat can have kittens in the oven. That doesn't make them biscuits.

I can call myself a Queen. Doesn't make me one.

Robertson embodies all of the qualities that are opposite of Christianity:

1. He advocates violence.
2. He advocates killing.
3. He advocates lying.
4. He advocates stealing.

He has broken most of the Commandments and ignored every one of the Beatitudes. He only wears the mantle of Christianity to make money and further his own twisted agenda.

Sadly, some people can't see through him. His followers are following a false prophet.

[VegasWolf]

329. He is the highest ranked Christian Televangelist! Too bad, he

is a Christian! His followers think he is God, just
look at the comments over a FReeper-ville!!

[Jo March]

353. Are the freepers happy about what he said?!?

Why am I surprised? I can't believe that anyone can back what Robertson said.

Of course, freepers are of different breed all together.

[VegasWolf]

357. The FReepers say that REAL Christians support Robertson! nt

[TankLV]

358. He is the FACE of "christians" in the US, whether you like it or not.

Even our pResident said it was just some private citizen using his first ammendment rights! Notice how he didn't even hint at condemning him - So, in effect bush* AGREES with him!

Hey LIEberman and Zell and Dicky Durbin: Why aren't you so quick to chastize a REPUKE - you say you are "democrats" after all, and seem to have no problem calling out imagined democratic faults!

[mitchtv]

39. Don't tell us that

Christians allowed these nuts to take over their religions, and now they are in control.Take back your religion.

[saigon68]

54. WHO WOULD JESUS KILL? OR ASSASSINATE??

Robertson is FILTHY SCUM

A PIECE OF DIARRHEA IN A TOILET BOWL.

[Imagevision]

363. FBI Should detain and question Robertson. National sceurity issue!

http://downingstreetmemo.com/

[anotherdrew]

134. don't look at me, it's not mine

It's my opinion however that these folks like robertson don't even seriously attempt, in any way, to be 'christ like' rather, they seem to be what I can only call, "jehovists". They don't seem to think the new testament means much. All they got is: follow the church leadership in all things, judge and punish sin (despite even jehovah saying 'judgment is MINE'), don't think too much. This is no way to live and for that I truly pity the poor fools sucked into fall-well's or robertson's traps. May they find peace in some life one day.

[Jo March]

275. Amen, anotherdrew. Robertson's followers are following a false leader

They should be following Christ - the Prince of PEACE - but they choose to follow Robertson instead. Robertson knows this and doesn't care as long as the money continues to roll in.

Robertson preys on the weak of spirit and the mind.

[classysassy]

356. The weak

you are so right.

[Imagevision]

261. Once again, it's all about the oil...!

[Turbineguy]

312. Oil??

It may very well be that gasoline is ONLY $2.75 or so per gallon because of the amounts imported from Venezuela.

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?r105:S30MR8-439:

Robertson is not only an asshole, he is an idiot who threatens the security of the United States.

[buddha8]

377. irony

The irony is that the neo-con government has already come close to attempting or attempted an assasination of Chavez. The coup they tried in Feb 03' was all backed and coordinated by Washington. I was amazed that it failed. I am sure they had black ops all over the place plotting assasination scenarios. Venezuala was one of the first countrys and ports secured when we declared war on Germany in 41' for obvious reasons. I am sure that it is high on the list of bush priorities to kill Chavez and fully privatize their oil reserves for distribution thru our corporate energy pigs. The bush-turd is a mass serial murderer. The more the merrier. I think he lives to designate the killing of others. I think he gets off on it and is a full blown psychotic who has very strong urges to act out and committ official murder at various intervals. Certainly his bloody tenure as head of that backwater patch of rattlesnake grass known as texas confirms his penchant for killing. Just think of how many deaths he is directly responsible for since the phony invasion of Afghanistan began. Hundreds of thousands. He is a mass serial killer, a baby in the lineage of Stalin,Hitler and Pol Pot. If he could he would murder more and murder often. Any normal person having to spend one day inside that murderer's skin would probably suffocate and die from the hour by hour self-loathing. Just all the energy one would need to summon just to put on appearances when you are carrying inside of you the screaming ghosts of whole armies of your victims. No wonder the guy feverishly mountain bikes for 2 hours a day. He is desparately trying metabolize his innumerable sins, his horrific crimes against humanity. I can only imagine how much medication they have this psychotic on. Probably anti-psychotic medicine, heavy sleeping potions,uppers for when he is overwhelmed by depression and needs to be moved about in front of a crowd and beta blockers most of the rest of the time for his constant rage and deep irritability.

Now we await to see if he stages a terror attack against his own country this fall in order to up his ratings. There is no question that not a few in his closed circle will be arguing for it. They have far,far too many skeletons in their closet to risk losing power to the other party in 06' and 08' even if they do control the vote count.

[mwooldri]

360. Would Rev. Robertson please remind us all....

what the 6th commandment is? From the New International Version "You shall not murder". (King James English is out of date for these times).

A similie for assissinate is murder, is it not?

So therefore he's calling for the murder of someone, which is very much against the Word of God that I believe in as a Christian.

I guess all us Christians need to pray for the Reverend Robertson. I certainly will be praying for him, because he has said something very publically that is against the very Word of God that he preaches. If religious leaders preach things that are against the very religion itself, such as what the Reverend did with 9/11, other things he's said and can't remember, and now calling for the assassination of an individual then I cannot accept them as being a true leader of their faith and as such are considered perverted. I'm sorry to say that I feel that the Reverend is preaching a perverted form of Christianity.

[still_one]

60. I was being sarcastic

[VegasWolf]

64. I most certainly was NOT being sarcastic, but I figured that you were!! nt

[anotherdrew]

133. don't look at me... it's not mine either

It's my opinion however that these folks like robertson don't even seriously attempt, in any way, to be 'christ like' rather, they seem to be what I can only call, "jehovists". They don't seem to think the new testament means much. All they got is: follow the church leadership in all things, judge and punish sin (despite even jehovah saying 'judgment is MINE'), don't think too much. This is no way to live and for that I truly pity the poor fools sucked into fall-well's or robertson's traps. May they find peace in some life one day.

[indepat]

173. I've previously wondered on DU if Pat et al are the embodiment of the anti

Christ and Pat just might be giving credibility to that far-out thesis.

[Occulus]

197. It does seem like a many-headed beast, doosn't it? n/t

[fudge stripe cookays]

253. You know what they say....

about wolves in sheep's clothing.

FSC

[ginnyinWI]

179. no, he's not a christian--he's criminally insane

what is the matter with these people??? unbelievable.

[Jo March]

276. CINO -Christian in name only

It is really sad because Christ's message is so beautiful:

1. Love thy neighbor as thyself.
2. Be kind to others.
3. Turn the other cheek.
4. Take care of the poor.
5. Judge not lest ye be judged.
6. Those who are without sin, cast the first stone.
7. Do not love riches or wealth.
8. Blessed are the meek, the peacemakers, the poor of spirit, the downtrodden.

Jesus taught love, tolerance, peace, hope and love.

Of course, Robertson couldn't make money off of those teachings, could he?

[I concur]

285. ,,,also those who live by the sword (or sniper's rifle)...

...die by the same violence. Also, he preached that God set up rulers (and pharisees such as Pat), for both good and evil.

[Jo March]

272. VegasWolf - I believe that THIS is a better way to put it

"I guess that Christian principles don't matter to those hypocrites. How can sane people listen to the crap that Robertson and his ilk spew?"

That's closer to the truth.

Robertson only uses the mantle of "Christian" to further his own hatred. People assume that he is a Christian but Christ would more than likely toss him out of the temple if He were here today.

[VegasWolf]

331. Arnheim - Sip all the koolaid you want. Religion has always been

filled with clowns. Just look at all of the Popes that
have been full blown insane. Religion is necessary for some people and for some people religion is totally irrelevant.

[Jo March]

354. VegasWolf, may I respectfully say something?

I appreciate and respect your views. I don't call you names or imply that you are stupid for your beliefs. Why do you feel the need to do that to me or other Christians?

I am not "drinking the kool aid" because I believe in God. It's what I believe.

Yes, some Popes were insane. Some world leaders were insane. Look at *. He's about as over the edge as you can get. There are all kinds of insane folks out there in the world. That doesn't mean that all religious leaders are insane or clowns or idiots.

I am amazed at the folks who, when something like this is spewed out from a so-called "Christian" leader, almost dance with glee and use it as an opportunity to make statements that question the sanity and intelligence of ALL Christians.

If someone started making those types of comments about my Wiccan friends or my atheist friends, I'd set them straight in a heartbeat.

[VegasWolf]

355. Thank you, and yes you may most certainly! I haven't ever said ALL

christians, that would obviously wrong. No one said
that all leaders are that way. To insinuate that is putting words in my mouth. That said, I do believe that there is a huge predisposition to mysticism that MANY religious people exhibit.
This predisposition of SOME to believe the incredible, at all odds with reason, simply leaves many people like myself flabbergasted
and shaking their heads.

[Jo March]

383. VegasWolf, I hear what you are saying but

Look at some of your comments, VegasWolf.

"Arnheim - Sip all the koolaid you want."
"I guess that hypocrisy doesn't matter to the christians."
"I learned to think for myself and promptly left the church."

These imply that Christians are "sipping the koolaid", can't think for ourselves and don't care about hypocrisy.

It's called faith. Faith is when you believe something that you can't prove, see, feel, touch, etc. Does it mean that I'm stupid, non-thinking or mentally ill? No, it doesn't.

The predisposition of SOME to believe that there is nothing after we die simply leaves many people like myself flabbergasted and shaking their heads. ;)

The common ground that we share, in my opinion, is also important. That is why I respect those who don't believe as I do. I, sometimes naively, expect that same treatment as well.

If you did not mean to insult all Christians, then please try to temper your remarks to say what you mean.

You say in another post that you have had religious training. If that is so, then you should know what the teachings of Christ are and you should know that nothing that comes from Robertson's mouth reflects the teachings of Christ in any way.

[TankLV]

359. Problem is, you'd be hard pressed to find ANY such comments from

Athiests, Wickans, Pagans, or even other NON-religious persons.

My how these "christians" sound exactly like certain muslims terrorists they condemn.

[kestrel91316]

366. Hey, not all Christians are fools by a long shot. Only in the last couple

of decades has Christianity been COMPLETELY HIJACKED by the insane Christofascist sectarians. The wisdom of Christ's teachings is traditional wisdom found in many cultures.

You could stand to read a couple of good objective books about the other side of Christianity and how the religion has been hijacked:
Stealing Jesus by Bruce Bawer (sp?)
Rescuing The Bible From Fundamentalism by John Shelby Spong

And NO, I AM NOT TRYING TO CONVERT YOU, silly. I'm not Christian, per se, but I am also not afraid to learn about it.

[VegasWolf]

368. Sorry, it has always been that way, from Constadine's time or the

Council of Nicea or the declaration of ex cathreda doctrines. Thank
you, but I've had an excellent Catholic education by the Jesuits. I
learned to think for myself and promptly left the church.

And I know that you are not trying to convert me, that would be quite
impossible.

[bribri16]

83. We need to bombard his network with e-mail and call him out to the MSM

No Christian should be contributing money to this hatemonger.

[jahyarain]

99. emailed five minutes ago:

"you actually advocate the assassination of another human being? am i the only one who understands why Jesus won't come back for you?"

[LuckyTheDog]

189. WWJHW?

Who would Jesus have whacked?

[ridgerunner]

211. "Passion of the Christ 2"

[Uncle Joe]

240. More like "Passion of the False Prophet" n/t

[SaveAmerica]

239. My 14 yo daughter said "Isn't assassination a form of extremism?"

When I read the part in the article where he's saying Chavez will leave the country open for Muslim extremism. Here's a toast to the future of America, able to tell religious extremism no matter the religion.

[Mike_The_Computer]

291. A Fatwa by any other name

is still a call for murder.

This sack of shit nut job psychopath windbag IS our worst enemy. I hope Pat gets his comeuppance this time. His karma has been inexplicably flying on fumes for years now.

[eyepaddle]

299. What can I do to express my support for Venezuela?

I remember the horribly embarassing Bush reaction to the failed coup a few years ago. Is there some way I can let Venezuelans know that not ALL Americans want to interfere in their domestic politics?

Oh, yeah and just to sum up: Pat Roberston is a fucking nutjob!:mad:

[Imagevision]

352. You would think a President would step forward to condemn instead of

being made "not available for comment" - How much lower must the US. go down the tubes with this war president??!!

http://downingstreetmemo.com/

[rwhepler]

384. What would Jesus do?

Would Jesus have called up a 'Snuf team' to deal with those who disagreed with him?

I guess Pat is more Action oriented.

Ron

[sarcasmo]

2. Yet another Religious whack job spouting stupidity!.

[sinkingfeeling]

3. Oh, the wonder of Christian love! Just as Jesus taught!

[jp4peace]

135. Jesus did not teach this, and this man, is no example, to go by

He has just shown the worst case of how sad some may become who fall from love and light, into hate, fear, and darkness.

This is easy to do, and no one, is without the potential, to fall.

Including the highest so-called leaders in our Country.

BRING THEM HOME NOW

[fudge stripe cookays]

257. Then call him out.

Every real Christian in this country must point out his hypocrisy. Cockroaches can't hide in broad daylight.

Why is your profile disabled?
FSC

[Jo March]

281. Fudge, you have to understand something

Many Christians are trying to call him out. Robertson is powerful. The new religious left movement will give many of us the support, the numbers and the "one voice" that we need to fight those of Robertson's ilk.

Christ taught love, tolerance, kindness, caring, love and peace. Robertson can't preach that because it won't earn him any money. For Pat, it's about the money and the power. In the beginning, he may have wanted to spread the word of Christ but I believe that the power and the cash twisted his soul.

I sincerely hope that people don't judge Christians by Pat. That would be wrong because we all aren't like him.

[jp4peace]

341. V.P. of the Democratically Elected Gov. Has already done so.

The People Love Their Elected Leader For Very Good Reason, He Cares.

http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/nation/ny-uspat0824,0,2996521.story?coll=ny-leadnationalnews-headlines

Buy Citgo Fuel

[Moochy]

181. God bless this sniper rifle!

I guess? :shrug: *yay for shruggy*

[Zuni]

4. How Christian of Pat

[oasis]

178. He's a raving lunatic.

[jonnyblitz]

5. yep, our oil ended up under their land, just like in the ME

and Chavez won't hand it over so, he is the ENEMY/COMMIE/IN CAHOOTS WITH CASTRO/DICTATOR etc. etc. etc.

[Charles19]

225. Most telling part of what he said was "oil production shouldn't

be affected". It wasn't those exact words but he said something similar.

He is driven by what BuschCo is and it isn't religion or respect for God. It is greed. They use religion to gain power and they use that power to gain more power and money.

[jahyarain]

289. do you mean

osama or bush or robertson?
i can't tell them apart anymore

[Fovea]

6. WWJW

Who Would Jesus Whack?

[genieroze]

204. According to these nuts it's okay to whack someone just as long

as you don't whack yourself off in the privacy of your own home because that's evil. /sarcasm

[whistle]

7. Another Christian family value .....

... "if he thinks we're trying to assassinate him, I think that we really ought to go ahead and do it" beamed out across the Christian Family TV Network.

[GasolineBoycott]

214. What Gore Vidal properly labeled

As "primitive skygod madness," this time brought to you by the 700 Club head Cleric/Mullah, Pat "Icepick" Robertson.

[skypilot]

8. Dear God,

Please come get your "loyal servant", Mr. Pat Robertson. He's dying to meet you.


Thanks,

Skypilot

[Lerkfish]

52. ROTFLMAO! best response!

thanks

[hopein08]

Gee, thanks for showing me the "Christian" way to think, Pat...

Without your guidance I would have thought that we should work with Chavez, find a middle ground, accept the differences, LOVE OUR NEIGHBOR...apparently I was mistaken.

:sarcasm::sarcasm::shrug::shrug:

[rkc3]

65. Love your neighbor - that's pre-9/11 thinking there.

The world is diffurnt now.

[hopein08]

155. Shoot, I always forget that 9/11 happened...

At least that's what I hear since Dumbya keeps having to go out and give speeches reminding me that 9/11 happened.:sarcasm::sarcasm:

How the hell can anyone need reminders of 9/11 anyway? That's been eating at me.

How sad is it that 9/11 can apparently change the way we see the Bible?

[Jo March]

286. Exactly, hopein08!!

I tell folks who use that "9/11 changed everything" crap, "9/11 didn't change the Bible or the Constitution, either. * did that."

Usually shuts them right up.

[jus_the_facts]

9. he owns an oil refinery.....don'tcha just love those christian values...

:eyes:

[hopein08]

15. Does he really?

Maybe I'm naive...but does he really own an oil refinery?

[CottonBear]

26. He owns diamond mines in Africa too!

He's in business with African dictators and thugs but he likes them because they're right wing dictators.

[Judi Lynn]

177. Speaking of horses, Pat has owned race horses.

From Wikipedia:

Robertson's great personal wealth and his uses of it. His net worth is between $200 million and $1 billion USD according to the 2002 book The Best Democracy Money Can Buy by Greg Palast. Through his ostensibly charitable organization, Operation Blessing International, Robertson claims to have spent $1.2 million bringing aid to refugees in Rwanda. His critics, such as Palast, claim the money was actually spent to bring heavy equipment for Robertson's African Development Corporation, a diamond mining operation. He has purchased thoroughbred race horses, although he has stated on many occasions he is opposed to gambling. Robertson claims he bought the horses because he is "amazed by their athleticism".
(snip)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat_Robertson

http://photos1.blogger.com/img/162/1473/200/Robertson,%20Pat.jpg

[CottonBear]

237. That poor horse should not have to carry such an evil man.

:) Pat looks silly in that jacket. No horse people that I know wear something like that to ride. He's not wearing protective headgear. He must be depending on God to protect his freakishly large cranium in the event of all fall or kick.

If he's not racing the Thoroughbreds then he must be using them for breeding purposes. Most racehorses are stallions or mares. Stallions who are not going to breed after racing are usually gelded and retrained as riding horses or sent to the slaughterhouse. :(

Many people use approved Thoroughbred mares to breed with European warmbloods. I can't imagine that Pat's in good enough shape to ride a retrained off the track Thoroughbred. OTTTs are retrained over the period of 6 months to a year after their racing career is over. They are let down slowly off the food and training and taught to be ridden with proper hand (bit) and leg aids. They are then used for the hunter-jumpers, fox hunting, pleasure riding and three day eventing.

[Runcible Spoon]

259. that horse's spirit must be broken.

Sensitive horses can read their riders. This one must have gone through a lot of whipping and brainwashing.

But YAY for OTTs! I've got one...she's a handful but quite lovely. and YES I DO want to teach her dreassage, 3 day eventing, etc. AND breed her to a warmblood! How did you read my mind so well??!! :P

[CottonBear]

270. My Oldenburg filly is out of a TB (Jockey Club but never on track) mare.

The dam is approved for breeding with the Oldenburg Verband of Vechta, Germnay. She's in the Main MAre Book which is very prestigous! Not all approve mares are so highly placed! Here's my 2 year old baby, Cotton (on the right with white socks) enjoying her morning hay with her friend Magic. :)


How is your OTTT coming along? That is quite a project to train them to be a riding horse. Good luck! I'm glad that one found a good home with you! Aren't horses grand? I just love them so! :)

[Runcible Spoon]

303. She's doing great!

here she is!



I haven't had a lot of time for much ring work this summer, since she lives with my parents 2 hours away from where I went to school. But every time I get home I take her out at least for a trail ride,
and I do try to keep her on the bit during those outings and do some leg yields on a flat piece of terrain, etc. She has a really good head, I lucked out! Now and then we have a flakey moment, but I find that if I project ease and confidence, she does the same. Now I have moved 1400 miles away (from NY to Arkansas!) and I am bringing her down in less than 3 weeks! Yay! The farm where I am keeping her is letting me exercise their Irish Hunters to work off some of her board. At 15.3 she'll be the smallest one, but that's OK. She has enough spice and spunk for 18 hands! She's really quite talented, the problem I've had in the past with some OTT's is that their gaits are flat and uninspired. She has incredible scope in her gaits and just floats over the ground. Gorgeous!

I love your Oldenburgs! Beautiful! Wow the Main Mare Book! I;m impressed. Dressage is my passion and background and I have always loved the warmbloods, tho could never afford one myself. Now I hope to breed my OTT at some point and raise the baby. I've worked with abused horses since I was 10, so I think I;m ready to take on a pampered warmblood! :) Best of luck to you with yours, and I;ll be keeping an eye out for you!

[CottonBear]

314. Your mare is a BEAUTY! I love the redheads! She's got just enough chrome

to be fancy and flashy in the dressage ring! Her face is so sweet! She's got a tremendous heart girth and is well sprung through the ribs. I can see how she would be good at dressage. She has a warmblood build. I know that lots of TB 3 day eventers find dressage to be the trickiest phase. 15.3 is a great size. It's really perfect. Cotton's sire is 17h and her dam is about 15.2h. I hope Cotton tops out at 16.0h. I don't want a really big horse. I'm over 40 and it's a long way to the ground! ;)

I only have the one horse. She lives on a breeding farm with her mom, half-brother, many aunties and two uncles along with lots of other equine friends (21 in all). The stallion, Corominio, lives in Maryland. His owner says that he has the BEST temperament of any stallion she's ever known! He's actually a bit lazy! He got top marks in willingness to work and temperament at his stallion approvals which is why the breeder choose him to breed with the TB mare. In addition, his first foal crop consisted of foals who were all awarded premium status!

I highly recommend Oldenburgs! They are smart, love to learn and have good personalities not to mention they are so elegant! The mare must be approved for breeding prior for a foal to be considered for approval as an Oldenburg. The Germans come to the USA and Canada every year foran approvals tour. The North American Division of the Verband der Züchter des Oldenburger Pferdes e.V. is who you need to contact in the USA for infromation of the Oldenburg horse. We took Cotton's dam to be approved with her colt at her side. The mare was put in the main mare book and the foal was approved as an Oldenburg! There were TB, Holsteiner, Arab and, of course, Oldenburg mares presented for approval. You might give breeding a try! The only way that I afforded Cotton was to buy her as a 6 month old baby! I couldn't afford a fully grown and trained warmblood! I can't ride her until she's 4. We've got lots of work and training to do until then! I want to teach her to drive!

http://www.oldenburghorse.com/
http://www.oldenburger-pferde.com/frameset.php?lang=en

[jus_the_facts]

91. Monsters, Inc..from Americans United for Separation of Church and State...

http://www.au.org/site/News2?page=NewsArticle&id=5608&abbr=cs_
*snip*

Two of Robertson's most recent profit-making ventures the Liberian operation and the oil refinery have difficulties. He may be stepping down from the Christian Coalition partly to devote more time to shoring them up.

[hopein08]

158. Thanks...that is seriously scary...

I never knew that about him. It makes him even worse and creepier.

[Judi Lynn]

184. Excellent link! This is so predictable, too, based on his past behavior.

From the article, concerning his partner in crime, Charles Taylor:

Under Taylor's regime, Liberia totters on the brink of chaos. Racked by civil war, the nation is poor and close to anarchy. Thousands have been killed and tortured by Taylor's troops, police and security forces, and Taylor is accused of backing rebels in neighboring Sierra Leone, spawning more death and destruction there.

In a Nov. 3 column, King wrote, "The international community has received a steady stream of reports detailing police floggings, kickings and burning of a detainee's skin with hot plastic to extract confessions; victims stripped naked, made to kneel on iron bars and whipped with belts and cables; the jailed people lying face down on the floor while police walk on their wrists and forearms."

On Nov. 30, Robertson replied to King's columns, asserting in a letter to the editor that he has never met Charles Taylor and insisting that his employees there have "found freedom of religion, freedom of movement, freedom of expression and what appears to be a judiciary dedicated to the rule of law."
(snip)

Concerning Robertson's personal refinery in California:

Most local residents adamantly oppose the refinery project. The New York Times reported that protestors have marched outside the plant and "dragged effigy in the streets, depicting him with devil's horns and a pointy red tail."

The refinery is located in a section of town that is about 70 percent Latino. It is surrounded by a hospital, a home for the elderly and a neighborhood school. Residents told The Times that when the plant was running, it belched smoke so noxious it peeled the paint off cars.
(snip)

He's doing God's work, making the world a better place (for himself).

[jus_the_facts]

232. It is a great site and great cause....

...glad you were impressed! :hi:

[anotherdrew]

51. just like with his DIAMNOND MINE in africa

Pat is nothing but a blood thirsty demon who really really really needs to recieve his just reward.

[apnu]

242. Maybe he's gonna conjure the devil?

I have a book at home, that supposedly has the Greater and Lesser Keys of Solomon, in which you can use diamonds to call forth the Devil to do your bidding (namely find the "closest pile of gold"

[tmooses]

11. Mr. Robertson should be an expert on dangerous people. What's

dangerous is this guy spewing his hate filled rhetoric across our broadcast waves.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

147. No kidding

But I'm still amazed how many people follow this asshole.

[robertpaulsen]

12. Thou shalt not...uh...uhhhhh....

I haven't got time to read the Bible, I'm too busy defending it!

:sarcasm:

[Skidmore]

13. So who will stand up and denounce this religious extremist?

Who will point out that he is not any better than the Taliban or any other religious group he denounces from his pulpit?

[AlinPA]

23. Rove and Co. don't have the guts to say anything. Robertson controls

a lot of their base of voters.

[Skidmore]

32. So why doesn't our side stand up and say something?

[AlinPA]

74. Same reason, I hate to say.

[Jo March]

288. I have a feeling that our side will say something

I am sure that this will cause a firestorm over the next couple of days. Can you imagine Dean not saying something? Conyers? Clark? Kerry? Kennedy? Boxer?

I predict that we actually will hear something this time. The tide has been turning. We do have some leaders who have been growing a spine of late.

[JNelson6563]

245. Seems the "true Christians"

are limited to silence or quiet mumbling on such extreme crap. I am seriously losing my patience with those who declare such thugs as "not real Christians" who do absolutely nothing about it. There is not one high-profile leader from Christendom who speaks out against this hate loudly enough for us to hear. We only hear these extremist clerics.

The lack of outcry from "real Christians" has made me wonder how badly they really feel about this stuff. :shrug:

[Hardrada]

277. We also never hear from academics: the historians, philosophers.

and sociologists etc. who are liberal in religion or purely secular but who won't raise their voices. I know several of these and they will not take a public stand. This section of society has gotten even more cowardly since the 1960's.

[JNelson6563]

336. Not my experience

but I don't know any high-profile folks in the fields you cite. Those I know to be secular and outraged at this behavior say so loudly and often.

Change within Christianity ain't gonna come from outside.

Julie

[Hardrada]

339. Not in my state

I have urged the ones I know who could have some effect to at least do an LTTE but no luck. A check of the Des Moines Register will show at most one or two college professors who regularly can spark RW reactions with their letters. Some I know will write one and then quit after an adverse reaction from the RW hacks. You have to stick to it.

[tk2kewl]

14. How can these assholes retain tax-exempt status???

What about that statement is religious? he is talking politics. :grr:

[joeunderdog]

33. How bout their Out of Jail status? This is illegal, isn't it?

Sheesh. Are things this far out of control that a public call for assassination isn't investigated?

[me b zola]

121. I would think that this would violate FCC rules

Using public air waves to call for the assassination of another head of state.

I bet that there are laws that could land Pat the hypocrite in prison.

Any lawyers?

[Roland99]

221. If a radio station dumps Garrison Keiller for saying "breast"

Let's put pressure on our TV stations that cover the 700 Club and any cable/satellite carrier, too.


http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2005/08/21/PKGJNCF2191.DTL&hw=breast&sn=001&sc=1000

[anotherdrew]

16. Pat Robertson is a lying sack of demon riden shit

he is nothing but a brainwashing worthless piece of dog shit. To hell with him and his.

[joeunderdog]

17. "He has destroyed the (sic) economy, and he's going to make..."

"that a launching pad for communist infiltration and Muslim extremism all over the continent."

Hmmm...sound familiar?

Is assassination what you get for that nowadays? I think we'd all settle for impeachment.


God help us.

[Puzzler]

28. "... communist infiltration and Muslim extremism..."

Whoa... both communism and Muslim extremism! Covering all your bases there Pat.


-P

[CottonBear]

40. There's Muslim extremism in Venezuela? Who knew

:eyes:

If there is a Christian God, Pat Robertson will surely burn in hell.

[saigon68]

71. Apparently for Robertson its time to kill Islamic Towel Heads in Venezuela

Yikes-- He's Mad I tell you.

[MisterP]

212. Pat the Bunny shouldn't babble nonsense: it's impolite

[Toots]

55. LOL..... Godless commies hooking up with Religious extremist

Ya right.......is what he said criminal? I take it as both a threat and hate speech hand in hand.

[defiant1]

113. For real....

I'm shocked that he forgot to mention homosexuals.

:sarcasm:

[ktowntennesseedem]

264. If he'd mentioned gays in Venezuela, we'd have to bomb 'em all!

He probably wants to tackle the chief evil first by killing Chavez. We'll have plenty of time to destroy all them other sinners later.
:sarcasm:

(Welcome to DU, Defiant1!)

[me b zola]

126. Translation

When a neothug says an economy has been "destroyed", what that really means is that the wealth has been redistributed and that the common man has a chance to feed his family, provide shelter, and receive health care. The uber-wealthy must find somewhere else to suck the life blood out of common people.

[HadItUpToHere]

18. "strong-arm dictator" ???

Pat Robertson is a twisted evil fuck, and i certainly hope that he reaps what he sows...very soon.

[AlinPA]

19. And this guy is one of the White House's religious advisors. n/t

[ironman202]

20. how is it possible anyone listens to this dullard?

what a childish way to look at the world.

[Son of California]

22. Remember the Ten Commandments Pat?

you know, that pesky little commandment about "Thou shall not kill"?
I think God was pretty serious about that one.

you fucking asshole.

[okasha]

169. Looks like he's down to 9.

Roy Moore will have to edit his rock.

[Sequoia]

250. Edit his rock!? That should be written in stone!

You people are so damn funny sometimes. Wonder if Billy Grahm and the others will come forward to dennouce this goon.

[kevinmc]

24. He Also Blamed The Democrats for Iraq Turning .......

into a Islamic Theocracy. Gave Bush A Pass. Said it at the same time he wanted to Kill Hugo Chavez.

[ken_g]

25. MAN!!!!!

DU is about the only place I can go to where I don't feel like everyone else is taking "Crazy Pills"!

Chavez was overwhelmingly elected, survived a coup, then survived a recall (anyone notice how close in time that was to the recall we had in 'Kaleevornia'), and they keep talking about what a threat he is to democracy!

And Gas there is only $0.12 a gallon! What an evil prick.

[xxqqqzme]

66. yea, the VRWC was very busy

around that time, around the world. They thought steroid boy could B left unattended - surprise!

Welcome 2 DU. This is my escape from bizarro world.

[sunnystarr]

151. 12 cents/gallon??!! hmmm think I'll swing by Venezuela to fill

up my tank. I think I'd save money.

[liberaliraqvet26]

27. he's probably interfering with Robertson's crooked...

business holdings in South America. That crook never met a dictater he doesn't like. He was in bed with the murderer Charles Taylor from Liberia. I guess Chavez is shutting him down in Venezuela.

[cliss]

167. WOW. yes, that must be it.

Robertson wouldn't be this acrimonious, unless he's been cut out of some deal.

OMG....it just boggles the mind. The hypocrisy. The lying. The ----------------------------- (just ran out of words....very rare for me).



Pat Robberson must be what Counter Punch calls the "Christian Capitalists".

[Catherine Vincent]

30. This guy is supposed to be religious?

I don't think so!

[deminks]

31. Who would Jesus assassinate?

As long as it won't stop the flow of oil, it won't cost very much and it's easier...:sarcasm:

[0007]

46. It could happen!

Ya know, I'd laugh my ass off if upon hearing this statement by Pat Robertson that Hugo Chavez indeed decided to cut off oil supplies to the U.S.

They ship roughly about 16% of what we use.

[Greeby]

34. I thought he was too busy

Praying for the death of Supreme Court justices :eyes:

[R Hickey]

68. Right, I saw it on the Daily Show.

They had a clip showing Robertson praying that god would come and kill one of the Supreme Court Justices. He closed his eyes and looked oh so devout... What a con artist. And I thought it was against the law to threaten a federal judge. I guess its all in the wording of the threat...

[KDLarsen]

218. Saw that one too

But damn, what was the remark the "reporter" (not Jon) made after it? Wasn't it something about it only taking 10 years before it happened & what God could have been doing for so long, and then a pretty cool video was played.

[0007]

35. Pat Robertson should be taken off the air.

No wonder the people on this planet hates this country.

Sounds like he get his information from John Bolton.

[VegasWolf]

36. Pat Robertson, perhaps the best known Christian Televangelist in the world

calls for yet another death of a heretic!

[Briar]

37. This is why

Christianity is just another failed religion. It fails to change human behaviour.

[DrZeeLit]

38. And they say it's all about VALUES... well, if this is their idea of

VALUES...and they are in a "culture war" with me... I say we start using their own obscene words against them.

Values my aunt fanny. Who the heck are these people? And why are intelligent, basic religious folks (not the fringe, but the middle) swayed by them.

EEEEEK!!!!!

(okay... I'm back to my culture... feelin' comfy... lovin' just about everyone... although Pat's making it very very tough)

[54anickel]

41. Interesting - we have all these covert operatives to take out dictators -

we don't really need to go to war to get rid of them. So, explain Iraq to me Pat. Explain the push by Bush/Cheney to wage another war on Iran. Explain why Osama Bin Forgotten is still on the loose while you're at it. Is it really as simple as placing a to-go order?

We have the ability to take him out, and I think the time has come that we exercise that ability. We don't need another $200 billion war to get rid of one, you know, strong-arm dictator. It's a whole lot easier to have some of the covert operatives do the job and then get it over with.

[JanusAscending]

70. This is the line that struck me too!!

While he had Bushes ear in 2000, why didn't he tell him THEN about his sneaky little plot?? ( to rid the world of dictators ) It might have saved all of our boys lives and many more Iraqi lives, plus would have saved the US billions of dollars! But no, he HAD TO TEAR IRAQ APART SO HALLIBURTON COULD MAKE THIER BILLIONS!! Pat Robertson, whom I used to adore, is one of the main reasons I stopped going to Church!! I can worship my Lord right here in my own home, by myself, any time I feel like it!!

[54anickel]

154. Hi discerning christian and welcome to DU.

Sorry that Pat Robertson left you with such a foul taste for going to Church. They aren't all bad, but I'm afraid there are many others like you that stay as far away as they can from churches thanks to the wacky fundies like Pat Robertson.

It's sad in a way, there are many good Chistian people and churches out there - but what will happen as they loose folks like yourself and are left to fend off the fundies on their own? :shrug: These are sad times we live in.

[JanusAscending]

186. Hi 54anickel !!

Thanks for the WELCOME!:hug: I understand what you're saying and I really know where you're coming from. I do miss the fellowship and my heart is heavy that I've been unable to find a Church I'm comfortable with. When I lived in the Berkshires I attended my Church twice on Sunday, one midweek service, one night for choir rehearsal, and one night for my daughters youth group. This was an AG Church! I have two older daughters who attended AG Colleges. But when I moved to Ct. in 1984 I started looking for a Church home to no avail! I used to go up to the Berkshires once a month for services at my best friends Congregational Church (female, Dr. of Theology, Minister) We are such close friends that every time I go up there , it's like I never left. I'm new to the little Ct. town I'm in now, and have yet to try one here. I hate to say it, but I have no desire to ever attend an EVANGELICAL Church again. I plan on checking out the Congr. and Luthern Churches in town. I was raised a Luthern, and it's a little too formal for me now. I have'nt given up entirely, but since Bush has been in power, they all leave a bad taste in my mouth!! I know my Mom and Dad are rolling over in thier graves!!!

[54anickel]

190. Good luck in your search. I know it can be difficult. I went thru the

same thing years ago. Married into a "fundie" family - the hypocrisy drove me crazy and drove both of us away from having anything to do with any church. I've gone through a lot of life changing events over the last 20 years since then.

I've been attending a Lutheran church for the past 6 or so years - ya it's still pretty formal, but it's going through some changes in that regard. I was a bit too liberal for this congregation when I first started getting involved, but they are changing and growing. It's actually been a rewarding (though sometimes frustrating) learning experience. Hope you can find a new fellowship home.

[Jo March]

290. discerning christian, welcome to DU!

There is a great religious forum here on DU and it is filled with some great folks. I sometimes feel as though I'm in church when I read through the posts. There's a great exchange of ideas and beliefs there. Check it out sometimes.

And welcome!! :hi:

[anotherdrew]

149. who the hell do these people think they are,.,,

Talking about killing the head of a sovereign nation live on TV. My god... if he were some local cable access nobody it wouldn't matter, but this pig has the ear of presidents and virtually 'controls' a big chunk of the repug base. He's got to pay for this somehow, if he gets away with this the rest of the world would be well advised to attack as soon as they are ready. If this is what america has come to...

[Judi Lynn]

42. A "Christian" spewing lies about a man, and howling for his murder.

It's a miracle he hasn't been struck by lightening yet.

He obviously refuses to learn the truth about Hugo Chavez, or simply doesn't give a damn. Populists prevent the enslavement of a world of good people by greedy monsters like Pat and his right-wing horde. They would be PAT'S natural enemies, not humanity's enemies.

http://photos1.blogger.com/img/162/1473/320/Robertson,%20Pat.jpg

Rave on, Pat. Karma's just around the corner.

[imperialismispasse]

43. Who would Jesus assassinate?

[NeoConsSuck]

44. That large pool of oil..

is their oil and they'll do as they goddamn well see fit with that oil.

And with assholes like you spouting off, could you blame them if they turned around and sold it to China and gave the USA the proverbial finger?

[Double T]

45. I think it is time for Pat Robertson to go with the men in the white coats

because he is insane!!!!

[VegasWolf]

47. Thank God I'm an Atheist!! nt

[Javaman]

48. Damn, if that dope was in power it would be war after war, wait a second..

[SlavesandBulldozers]

85. hahahah

exactly.

ya know the ravings of Pat don't sound all that different from the ravings of Herr Chimp.

[anotherdrew]

49. SINCE WHEN DOES A CHURCH SHOW DIRECT FOREIGN POLICY?!!!

What they HELL is wrong with these people? My god... my country is turning into a religious dictatorship right in front of my eyes. This shit needs to be shut down NOW

[Jacobin]

56. Since 2000, actually

And the consequences are being reaped as we speak.

[xray s]

50. Proving once again Robertson sides with the Evil One

Robertson worships Mammon. He is a wolf in sheeps clothing. He is a religious goat, as described in Matthew 25...

31When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit on his throne in heavenly glory. 32All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. 33He will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left.

34"Then the King will say to those on his right, 'Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. 35For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.'

37"Then the righteous will answer him, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?'

40"The King will reply, 'I tell you the truth, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers of mine, you did for me.'

41"Then he will say to those on his left, 'Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.'

44"They also will answer, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?'

45"He will reply, 'I tell you the truth, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.'

46"Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life."

[reality based]

53. Jesus: "For all who draw the sword . . .

will die by the sword." Matthew 26:52 (NIV)

[Kablooie]

175. Yeah, but Jesus said that...

and no righteous Christian would listen to what that nut case, Jesus, thought.

Listen to your loving, living leaders. They are the only gods that matter today!

[arcane1]

57. what did the United States State Department do about the coup??

IMPLEMENT IT, you fool!!!!

[anotherdrew]

142. well... yes, but...

I somehow doubt it was agents of the state department that did it. State would be lucky if they got memos about it ahead of time.

[CBHagman]

58. Can he lose his broadcasting license over this?

Those who foment violence and terror and all that. Where's the FBI or what have you knocking on the door of the studio?

I'd say it's time for a little visit from a few agencies. Heck, I'll lead them personally if it makes Robertson sweat profusely.

[Neocondriac]

69. Well....

He has been praying for weeks now for other members of the Supreme court to die or retire.That kind of silliness."Dear Lord , we ask you to strike down the squatty little Jew Bitch and that feable old bastard Renquist"...."Renquist"....'That's Norwegien isn't it?...'Gotta be a Socialist"

[Alpharetta]

59. I wish he'd run for president again. That was awesome.

Rove could run his campaign.

Either you're for him, or you're for Satan.

[GoddessOfGuinness]

61. What a kook.

If Robberson can have a TV show, why not Charles Manson?

[EST]

72. Manson's not crazy enough.

Whole 'nuther league.

[GoddessOfGuinness]

110. True, but Jim Jones is dead.

[Shakespeare]

150. He's not a kook-just a VERY evil, greedy bastard. n/t

[MetaTrope]

62. This IS the guy who gave millions of dollars to the Contras in Nicaragua

You know?

[Don Claybrook]

63. Note to all Christians

You may want to start using a different moniker, and this is coming from someone who has respect for "real" Christianity. I'm afraid the Christian label has been completely compromised by filth like Robertson.

I think that Christ would be the first to condone the name change. Back in his day, he called people like Pat Robertson and George Bush Pharisees. They now call themselves Christians. You don't want your closely-held faith to be wrongly associated with hatefulness and evil.

It's something to think about.

[hippywife]

127. Like I said after the election

these people need to be called somthing else and Pharisee works just fine with me. They are the ones that no longer have claim to the name.

[Selteri]

309. You're right, it's easy to remove the "s from "Christians".

It isn't personal, many people have seen the fundyness of the Church that seemed and still remains somewhat prevelant and chose to flee it.

I'm not the only person I know who was drummed out of a church for 'daring' to not see things from an extreme right wing side on some subject. I've also seen churches that welcome in everyone, The hypocracy still exists in those as well though. I will admit to even having judged a church as being extremist from overhearing some parishioners speaking. It's an easy thing to do to forget the two sides fo Christianity.

The Real lessons of Jesus and the political Christianity started by
constantine in 300 that wiped out most of the real Christianity as heretics (The basis of the word actually) Taking the orriginal ideas from Jesus that spoke very little about his divinity and offered it as being something that wasn't just achieved through him, but through your actions and your heart.

There are still two forms of Christian, those who truly live their lives trying to be kind to their fellow man. While I do not consider myself a Christian I do consier myself the kind of human who tries to live by that kind of example.

Then there is the "Christian", those who say "Giving to the poor and the government for acts to take care of those who don't have medical care of a job that pays enough is comparable to sharing your GPA wiith someone who's got a 1.0 when you're got a 4.0." (Paraphrased actual quote.)

Of the latter I can only look at them and think, "Ah, but when a 4.0 tutots a 1.0 who seriously wants to be a 4.0, often the 4.0 does not lose their GPA for 'sharing' their knowledge, rather they often get to help someone better themself and ensure that they will have a better knowledge for the form of study that teaching and tutoring involves."

It applies everywhere.

[Dudley_DUright]

67. How "Christian" of you Pat

:eyes:

[VegasWolf]

73. Just wondering what else the poor Christians have been taught is WRONG

also?

[kodi]

75. what would the media say if someone called for killing robertson?

it would be a crime, just like his remarks are a crime.

robertson should be indicted for calling for the murder of another person. free speech does not include remarks intended to incite violence.

[TechBear_Seattle]

76. How is Robertson NOT a terrorist? Isn't he encouraging terrorist acts? n/t

[MetaTrope]

228. Robertson has privately financed terrorists

With millions of dollars to death squads in Guatemala, El Salvador and Nicaragua in the '80s. One has to wonder if he hasn't supplemented Saudi funding to Al-Qaeda too.

[TechBear_Seattle]

279. Well, goodness knows he has financially benefited...

... by telling his flock that the "islamists" are out to destroy every patriotic Christian in the United States. He reminds me of the preacher who rails against pornography on Sunday morning, then graciously accepts kickbacks from the porno publisher because they are both keeping one another in business.

[Straight Shooter]

77. I think Chavez should call for the assassination of Pat Robertson.

Then maybe Robertson can surround himself with highly-paid bodyguards and live in total paranoia like his golden-calf idol bush.

Robertson is a waste of valuable oxygen.

[TankLV]

362. Well, crazy pat certainly gave permission for him to do so,

and he would be entirely justified.

After all, he is the leader of a country that has been OVERWHELMINGLY re-elected 4 times while pat is just a common terrorist.

Certainly GW would approve.

By GW's standards, Chavez would be within his rights to nuke the USA!

[VegasWolf]

78. Doesn't Brittan now extradite all religious extremists who advocate

murder? We should follow that excellent example!!!!

[Gay Green]

172. We could extradite extremists like Pat Robertson and his ilk to Greenland

When the glaciers melt, they'll all be washed off into the sea.

[1932]

79. Robertson is so going to hell.

Well, at least he made a lot of money off of poor people while he was alive.

[VegasWolf]

81. There is no Hell, and Robertson is still rich thanks to his followers! nt

[crimson333]

165. he was rich before he had followers

they just padded his wealth

[Renew Deal]

80. What about those that think Pat Robertson should be assasinated?

Is it OK to say that? Would Pat be OK with that? I dount it.

[LincolnMcGrath]

82. Only four votes people?

This needs to be on the front page.



Christian my ass......

[mcscajun]

84. What a moron! The Monroe Doctrine asserted that the Americas...

...were to be free of foreign (read European) influence and interference.

:wtf: that has to do with our self-asserted right to run the entire Western Hemisphere leading to assassinations of convenience is beyond me. Even Theodore Roosevelt, who bent the Monroe Doctrine pretty hard with his interference south of the border, never took it that far.

So, Covert Political Assassination is now a Christian Value? I don't think so.

[SlavesandBulldozers]

86. check out this pic

tell me there is not a hell. nay, we are in hell.


Pat with his favorite liberal.;) Looking at Colmes makes me feel physically ill.

[VegasWolf]

90. What, does that one guy have AIDS? Sorry, don't know his name as

I don't watch Fox and I don't read captions to photos!!!!

[SlavesandBulldozers]

92. right?

Colmes has got serious problems. I don't know what, but you certainly could not pick a more sickly looking person than that.

[VegasWolf]

94. Does anyone know, he looks awfull!! That is a shame. nt

[SlavesandBulldozers]

102. he's always looked that way. his appearance is partially why we

even know he exists. Fox puts him on as a milquetoast liberal for Hannity to browbeat, Colmes was selected partially because he looks sickly and decrepit, it is a powerful image for the right to coalesce against.

[Sparkle]

108. You'd look like that too if you had to sit next to Hannity..

...and listen to all the right wing bush loving junk he yammers about.

[ken_g]

109. I think faux pays him extra $$$...

to look sickly. He is the token 'libral' after all. I've seriously considered that possibility.

[anotherdrew]

140. good god! Colmes looks like a failed Tony Blair clone

I guess that batch didn't turn out quite right....

[reality based]

247. But we do have Colmes to thank for getting that right winger

Horsely to admit that he had sex with a mule.

[SlavesandBulldozers]

340. ya know what? I've never actually seen that quote

i've seen references to it and almost shut it out of my mind as so ridiculous. do you have any quotes? nevermind, i'll go look for one!

[reality based]

347. It was all over the blogs and Air America, remember? Read this:

http://www.newshounds.us/2005/05/06/bizarre_sex_habits_of_the_extreme_rightwing.php

and then this:

http://www.newshounds.us/2005/05/11/hold_onto_your_mules_horsleys_coming_back.php

and finally this:

http://www.newshounds.us/2005/05/14/the_mule_consented.php

[SlavesandBulldozers]

350. yes i remember hearing about it

but never saw the quotes. i think part of me just never wanted to believe its true. dear God man.

there are no words.

thanks for the links.

[NNN0LHI]

87. Can't you just feel the love? n/t

[ronnykmarshall]

88. Arrest that bastard.

[DoYouEverWonder]

96. Did he say this on the air?

Doesn't the FCC regulate this sort of thing. I mean we can't see Janet Jackson's tit, but a major religious leader in the USA is advocating the violent over throw of a democratically elected leader isn't even noticed. This is beyond illegal.

Robertson's license to broadcast should be revoke and his ass put in jail for advocating violence. This is beyond ridiculous.

[ronnykmarshall]

104. Sounds like it.

Time to write the FCC.

[Judi Lynn]

89. You have to be a right-wing genocidal dictator to get on Robertson's good

side. He has adored Latin American monsters for decades:

.....CANDIDATE ROBERTSON'S CENTRAL AMERICA POLICY
by Sara Diamond, copyright 1986

TV preacher Pat Robertson is the only prospective
presidential candidate who not only has a Central America policy
but also provides Bibles, beans, and maybe even bullets to U.S.
backed forces in the region.

Until recently, Robertson was seen by most as just another
slick televangelist. But his soft-spoken style is misleading; his
actions speaker louder than his words.

Robertson's controversial activities include: support for
the slaughter of thousands of Indians by a Guatemalan dictator;
public praise for the reputed leader of Salvadoran death squads;
collaboration with murky U.S. mercenary groups; and the provision
of chaplains and funds to the contra army seeking to topple the
government of Nicaragua.
(snip/...)

http://www.holysmoke.org/wb/wb0239.htm

[davekriss]

148. Judi! I was thinking of this very same article...

...you beat me to the post! In it, Sara writes: "...he praised death squad leader Robert D'Aubuisson as a 'very nice fellow'." Mr. D'Aubuisson is only the founder of the death squads in El Salvador, easily the most brutal of them all. I wonder, did Patty boy pay D'Aubuisson's tuition at School of the Americas?

El Salvador, 1980-89. On TV D'Aubuisson, using military intelligence files, denounced teachers, labor leaders, union organizers and politicians. Within days their mutilated bodies found. Washington had identified most leaders of death squads as members Salvadoran security forces with ties to D'Aubuisson.
-- Washington Post op-ed by Douglas Farah, 2/23/1992, p. C4 (source http://www.serendipity.li/cia/death_squads.htm">here)

[IndianaGreen]

152. And Pat's buddy Jerry Falwell called Bishop Tutu a phony

Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell supported apartheid because they said the South African regime was friendly to the West and was anti-Communists. They also called Mandela a terrorist!

[Judi Lynn]

160. They probably can't grasp what makes him tick. They're from a lower realm.

It's amazing to think one small planet can contain both people like those two wrecks, and Desmond Tutu! The pompous ones are the criminal class christians.

Here's what Robertson has to say about other religions:

Here are a few of Pat Robertson’s observations on people whose faith is different from his own. On Hindus: "What is Hinduism but devil worship, ultimately?" On Muslims: "To see Americans become followers of Islam is nothing short of insanity. Why would people in America want to embrace the religion of the slaves?" Last summer Robertson opined that the Catholic understanding of Holy Communion was like telling us "to be like cannibals."

Now if you are not yet offended, brother Robertson has little regard even for mainstream Protestants: "You say, ‘You’re supposed to be nice to the Episcopalians and the Presbyterians and the Methodists and this, that, and the other thing. Nonsense! I don’t have to be nice to the spirit of the anti-Christ."
(snip/...)

http://www.citizensproject.org/watch/fw1298.htm

[Judi Lynn]

163. It's a shame we have had to learn things like this so many years

after the fact, isn't it? He has been hard at work raising funds for these demons for years, and praising them to high heaven as they have laid waste to entire villages of helpless citizens.

It's safe to say almost everyone didn't know, from the public sector, either. He's a true maggot in sheep's clothing.

[David__77]

93. At least the fascist is honest.

Chavez should move to consolidate the new order and neutralize the right in Venezuela. The enemies of liberty in Venezuela who collaborate with US subversion should be tried and imprisoned. Chavez should unite the Latin American people to oppose the fascism that Robertson represents.

[mom cat]

95. Pat has NOTHING to do with Jesus! ................NOTHING!

[VegasWolf]

98. Yes, but that is not what he or the IRS says. nt

[Jo March]

292. VegasWolf, the IRS does not decide who is a Christian

All it does it let you put down a word or two in field on a form somewhere.

I am not sure if you are a Christian or if you believe in Heaven or God, but I do.

One day, I truly believe that Pat will stand in front of God. He will have to answer for his sins. There will be no IRS, no political allies. No television audience.

Pat should fear for the Lord is just. Pat will have to answer for this. I truly believe that.

[VegasWolf]

333. Arnhiem, don't be so literal. Of course I am an atheist, I had an

outstanding Catholic education by the Jesuits. I learned to
think for myself. I don't believe in the sky people any more
than I believe in Santa Claus.

[Daphne08]

101. No, it doesn't, and it's one of the most disturbing things

I have ever heard from someone who calls himself a religious man.

This is an affront to every Christian in this country!

[donkeyotay]

97. Oh cool! Do we all get to do this? Maybe FUX could do a reality show

Who Wants to be Assassinated. We could do a phone-in vote... If you want Pat Robertson assassinated dial 888-888-8888... if you want...

[BlueEyedSon]

100. If that's politically motivated, he needs to start PAYING TAXES.

[Robeson]

107. They all should.

[Burried News]

103. The Robertson's must have found a gold mine in Venezuela

to rival the little gem we went to Liberia to safeguard.
http://www.theperspective.org/patrobertson_taylor.html
"Over the past few months, columnist Colbert King of the Washington Post had used his columns to expose Pat Robertson's dealing in Liberia. In a series of articles King had sketched out Robertson's profit motives, and his quest to strike it in rich gold in Liberia, which has overriden any morality of doing business with one of Africa's most notorious tyrants.

What Colbert King has been writing about is Pat Robertson's desire to make profits at the expense of all else which has become a study in contrasts of a self-professed Christian, who has piously mouthed indignation at others for their alleged immoral conduct.

Rev. Robertson is not troubled or concerned at all about doing business with President Taylor, a man widely known for "fueling the violence in Sierra Leone" and "actively supporting the RUF at all levels." Taylor is a known menace to his people as well as a danger to his neighbors in the West African sub-region. The heinous atrocities he inflicted upon the Liberian people are well documented, yet Pat Robertson claims to "have no knowledge of the activities in Liberia during its bitter civil war."


But then Robertson is a man of contradictions, a self-proclaimed righteous man whose actions often betray his words. Shortly after the Sept.11 tragedy, according to GQ, an upscale men's fashion magazine, Robertson posted an odd message on his Christian Broadcasting Network (CBN) web site. "The focus of many in America has been the pursuit of health, wealth, material pleasures and sexuality." He continued "Sadly, those in the churches have been as self-indulgent as those in the world.""

[nigelthebrit]

328. Colbert King's articles

Yes, and I was grateful to Mr. King for pointing me in the direction of the Five Sisters from Illinois in October 1992, who wouldn't desert the people they were serving - even in the face of impending death. It is believed that the soldiers who did them to death were under Charles Taylor's command.

As for Pat Robertson...it's said that you can judge a man by the company he keeps - especially as he's done business with Charles Taylor!

[progressoid]

105. Who Would Jesus Assassinate?

Robertson - you may be a bigger douche than Novak.

[AX10]

106. I hate that man!

:grr::grr::grr::grr::grr::grr::grr::grr::grr::grr::grr::grr::grr::grr::grr::grr::grr::grr::grr::grr::grr::grr:

[xchrom]

111. the disciple of the anti-christ with the biggest yap

is doing his best to spread murder, mayhem and deceit.

pat robertson is after all an apostle forged from the prince of lies
personal hell.

[PittPoliSci]

112. popular coup?

plu-leeeze patty! you've gotta be outta your friggin' mind!

[cosmicdot]

114. Thou Shall Not Kill

:yoiks:

tax 'em

This message brought to you by Pat's Age-Defying Protein Shake

"Where does Pat find the time and energy to host a daily, national TV show, head a world-wide ministry, develop visionary scholars, while traveling the globe as a statesman?

"One of Pat's secrets to keeping his energy high and his vitality soaring is his age-defying protein shake. Pat developed a delicious, refreshing shake, filled with energy-producing nutrients."

oh, he's a 'statesman', is he? ... tax 'em ...

[Gay Green]

174. "Did you know that Pat Robertson can leg-press 2000 pounds!"

"How does he do it?"

You can sell the Golden Gate Bridge to the suckers he rips off. :eyes:

[enki23]

115. his facts are inverted. his reasoning is flawed...

his pronouncements are absurd, his morals starved. his ethics are undeveloped while his hair is immaculate. his teeth are capped. his eyes are piggish. his behavior is abhorrent. his values are inconsistent, his peers are adolescent, and his followers are dimwitted dupes.

sounds like a religious leader to me.

[struggle4progress]

116. Robertson is an evil witch. He should be burned. eom

[kestrel91316]

370. Hey, that's an insult to witches everywhere!

[struggle4progress]

371. I only meant to insult the evil one like Robertson. eom

[agincourt]

117. Pat Robertson was close to Charles Taylor,

who laundered money for Al Qaida. Robertson also took up a collection for Rwanda and sent over mineral detection equipment instead of humanitarian aid. He should be hammered on in every democratic campaign as he is a full blown preacher criminal. Now he wants Chavez's head, what's the matter? Isn't Chavez tied in enough with Tim Laden?

[0007]

118. bttft

[Miss Chybil]

119. Just what book is that "Doctrine of Assassination" in?

Mark? Paul? Luke? I can't find it...

[0007]

120. Pat is even jealousy of the Pope

[malaise]

122. Isn't that a terrorist act

Chavez is a head of state. Of course we cynics in the developing world know this would hardly be the first time one of our leaders was killed for certain interests.

These lunatics better not try anything when he visits Jamaica this week.

[novak goes postal]

123. He may want to review the "Sermon on the Mount"... Chavez wants to

share OIL Revenues with all the people of Venezuela there in the selfish bastards mind he is a PINKO COMMIE... Can't have that.... gotta murder'em.... I have a better idea for the murder solution and we won't have to go that far South......JUST TO VIRGINIA.....

[Joey Liberal]

124. Another Criminal Christian

Robertson is insane.

[fujiyama]

125. Why should this be a surprise

He also hoped and prayed that a few SC justices would leave sooner than expected and made references to Steven's age and Ginsberg's fight with cancer a while back.

He's a lunatic.

[rosesaylavee]

128. Wow. He's almost nuts enough to be our next Pres n/t

[spanone]

129. And he PRETENDS to be a Christian. Fuck Pat Robertson.

[Rex]

130. A terrific danger!

From Pat's own mouth! REVOKE THAT ASSHOLES TAX FREE STATUS NOW!

[Generic Other]

131. Shocking

Even coming from him.

[jp4peace]

132. Buy all your gas from Citgo and 7/11

I find this impossible to believe, if true it is the worst thing I have ever heard coming from a so called church leader in this country.

Chavez is using his Fed. oil company to help support the poor people of the country.

All Americans who read this, should buy their gas from Citgo

Buy your gas from Citgo

BRING THEM HOME NOW

[anotherdrew]

136. Let the FCC fine his ass for OBSCENITY

please, make it happen...

[stepnw1f]

137. Hey Pat... You're Not God, so Get Over It

There's a bumper Sticker for DU!

[tuvor]

138. Everyone, sing along with me!

Ahem:

And they'll know we are Christians
By our love
By our love
Yes, they'll know we are Christians
By our love

[Endangered Specie]

139. Looks like we got next weeks conservative idiot...

I wonder how they pick only ten a week sometime.

[truthisfreedom]

141. i believe he just shot himself in the proverbial foot.

i don't think he'll survive this one.

[westernpenndem]

143. Advocating Assassination???

Whewww!! Jaw dropping!! I didn't even think Robertson was that evil--and stupid.

Plop him in the cell with Eric Rudolph, because he's no better than that bloodthirsty, immoral--UNCHRISTIAN--killer.

God forbid, we actually allow a leader elected democratically keep his job. We had the chance to win his favor during the coup by condemning it--but W and Co. blew it again and sided rhetorically with the coup instigators.

[lovuian]

144. Wow you can see the hate coming out of Pat!!!

Chavez is their worst nightmare!!!

[BrotherBuzz]

145. This is just the opening volley....

Pat is delivering the sheeple fundies into the BFEE corral. Pat Robertson will temper his words a bit in the next few days but the damage is done; Hugo Chavez has been vilified in the eyes of the fundy base.

Pat Robertson is nothing but a Judas goat.

[IndianaGreen]

146. I ask GAWD to call Pat Robertson to his eternal reward.

Nice of Pat Robertson of siding with the Venezuelan elites rather than the poor, the workers, and the peasants. Do you think for one minute that Jesus, PBUHN, would ally himself with the elites of any country.

This is in our sphere of influence, so we can't let this happen.

Screw you Pat, and all those that think that Latin America is America's whore!

[niallmac]

153. WHY is it that the people who pretend to be sooo Christian

are soooo NOT?

[54anickel]

156. Wow! Bet if I wrote a LTTE calling for someone's assassination the

authorities would be all over my a$$ like flies on sh*t. How does he get away with this stuff?

[NIGHT TRIPPER]

157. it's illegal to advocate the assassination of our own president- why?

Why?- partially because it is promoting immoral criminal behavior--

It should be illegal to call for the assassination of ANY president of ANY country

Hypocrisy and religion--been going on since the beginning of civilization.

neo evangelistic "Kristchens" seem to think they are above not only the law of man but the law of their own God.
Thou shalt not kill--period--
doesn't say except for those you dislike or "hate--and by the way is""hate" condoned in this neo evangelistic religion?--it seems like hate of Muslims and anyone else that the Bush Co. regime find difficult to deal with like Chavez (a democratically elected president who's only crime is that of wanting to keep the oil business of Venezuela out of greedy American hands) is rampant among the followers and leaders alike--

keep America Beautiful--lock up Robertson-
Hypo-Christ-sy-

[Bluerthanblue]

159. HARBORING TERRORIST???

screw his pretense of religious devotion-
This man just made a statement that SHOULD cause him to be arrested and tried as a terrorist-

The fact that he won't ever be, is evidence of bush's lie that 'we will hunt down and remove terrorists where ever they are."

Blow back on this lying hypocritical administration.-

[The Backlash Cometh]

161. "A popular coup"

Does anybody else feel really uncomfortable with that statement?

[Judi Lynn]

168. It couldn't be more fiendishly false!The "popular" part got him free.n/t

[GOPFighter]

162. Maybe you could nail him to a cross...

You fricken' asshole.

[WMliberal]

164. how DARE that democratically elected leader run his country as he sees fit

:eyes:

and all those Muslims in South America... uh, Pat, I know they have brown skin, but really, they're mostly Christians.

[kestrel91316]

372. Well, to Pat Robertson all those CATHOLICS in S. America are not

"true Christians" since we all know that Catholicism is in cahoots with Satan. Right, Pat???

[ignatius 2]

166. Who would Jesus assassinate? Unreal,what a mierable,pompous ass wipe

this man is. Those godless commies and muslims..now they are not only morphing 9-11..Osama..Iraq.Saddam but adding commies to the muslim mix.

Without hatred and bigotry,where would this man be?

[Habibi]

170. I don't do this sort of thing much

but this just put me over the edge today. I contacted the "Ask Pat! 700 Club Bring It On" page and fed him a sliver of my mind.

You have to pick a category before you can leave a message. I chose "Moral, Social, and Ethical Issues." For Subject, I entered "Venezuela." Then I asked the following:

Hi, Pat!

Who would Jesus assassinate?

I ask this because you apparently think that the assassination of a democratically elected leader is a good idea. Do you think Jesus would agree with you? Do you think Jesus would approve of your self-serving "ministry," or do you think, maybe, he would instead overturn your money-changing table and slap you upside the head?

Why are you even speaking out on issues like this? Aren't there some grievously poor people in the world you should be focusing on, you rich, hypocritical, self-aggrandizing, warmongering bastard?

[TheCowsCameHome]

171. Unreal. Kill for Jesus. This guy is one serious mental case

What a puke.

[YOY]

176. There are reasons why you don't let fundamentalists become diplomats

and this is one.

[Ian David]

180. Can we all pray for Pat Robertson to die? Or, if you're a pacifist...

You could think of Pat Robertson while you masturbate.

Let's pick a date and develop a sign-up form for "A Day of Violating Pat Robertson."

I (insert name) Pledge that on Sunday, August 28th at 12:00 PM local time, I will:
(select one)
a) Pray for Pat Robertson to die
b) Think about Pat Robertson while I masturbate
c) Both a and b simultaneously or consecutively

I know, for most people the idea of wanking to a picture of Pat Robertson is a major "libido killer."



But as anyone who has ever been at a bar after last call knows, where there is a will there is (usually) a way.

[FlaGranny]

244. Thinking of Robertson as you

masturbate? Really now - that would be totally self defeating. You'd never reap the "fruit" of your labor.

[Ian David]

249. Technically, it's not fruit. It's seed. n/t

[FlaGranny]

252. Yes, indeed, but "seed"

doesn't fit the quote. ;-)

Edit: Not only that - "seed" only applies if you are male.

[arwalden]

182. Christians Everywhere Are So Proud Of Him!! He's A Real Piece Of Work!

:projectile vomit:

[martymar64]

183. Jesus had a word for his type

Pharisee!!!

[Jara sang]

185. Pat Robertson is no Christian.

Christ to Robertson: "I know thee not"

[cal04]

187. This story is out! Electronic pages and a message to a Robertson

spokeswoman were not immediately returned Monday evening.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uslatest/story/0,1282,-5227335,00.html

Televangelist Robertson Calls for Assassination of Venezuelan President
http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGBMM8QJPCE.html

http://news.google.com/news?q=Televangelist+Robertson+Calls+for+Assassination+of+Venezuelan+President&hl=en&lr=lang_en&tab=wn&ie=UTF-8&scoring=d


I can't wait to hear what Chavez has to say to this slime.

[Cocoa]

193. picked up by the AP!

thank you MediaMatters.org. :toast:

[really annoyed]

188. Oh my...

Pat, that is not Christian behavior at all! :mad:

I'm sure Pat makes Jesus proud! :sarcasm:

[Erika]

191. Bush/Rove/Robertson void the Golden Rule

Manna is their God.

[Canuckistanian]

192. Fundamentalist Nutcase Calls for Murder of Sovereign State Leader

That's what it should read.

[Mr Rabble]

194. did I mention nutbag?

[Horse with no Name]

195. All I can (or will) say is that I hope Hugo reads this

and takes appropriate action "protecting" himself.
I'm so tired of these hatemongers hiding behind Jesus.

[NAO]

196. Radical Cleric Pat Robertson Issues Fatwa on Chavez

The Fundamentalist Extremist Radical Cleric issued a Fatwa on Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez on August 22.

Don't think it's the "Christian" thing to do? Think again.

Here's a little refresher on Christian history from Robert G. Ingersoll's "Heretics And Heresies":

It is claimed that God wrote a book called the Bible, and it is generally admitted that this book is somewhat difficult to understand. As long as the church had all the copies of this book, and the people were not allowed to read it, there was comparatively little heresy in the world; but when it was printed and read, people began honestly to differ as to its meaning. A few were independent and brave enough to give the world their real thoughts, and for the extermination of these men the church used all her power. Protestants and Catholics vied with each other in the work of enslaving the human mind. For ages they were rivals in the infamous effort to rid the earth of honest people. They infested every country, every city, town, hamlet and family. They appealed to the worst passions of the human heart. They sowed the seeds of discord and hatred in every land. Brother denounced brother, wives informed against their husbands, mothers accused their children, dungeons were crowded with the innocent; the flesh of the good and true rotted in the clasp of chains; the flames devoured the heroic, and in the name of the most merciful God, his children were exterminated with famine, sword, and fire. Over the wild waves of battle rose and fell the banner of Jesus Christ. for sixteen hundred years the robes of the church were red with innocent blood. The ingenuity of Christians was exhausted in devising punishment severe enough to be inflicted upon other Christians who honestly and sincerely differed with them upon any point whatever.

Give any orthodox church the power, and to-day they would punish heresy with whip, and chain, and fire. As long as a church deems a certain belief essential to salvation, just so long it will kill and burn if it has the power. Why should the church pity a man whom her God hates? Why should she show mercy to a kind and noble heretic whom her God will burn in eternal fire? Why should a Christian be better than his God? It is impossible for the imagination to conceive of a greater atrocity than has been perpetrated by the church. Every nerve in the human body capable of pain has been sought out and touched.

Let it be remembered that all churches have persecuted heretics to the fullest extent of their power. Toleration has increased only when and where the power of the church has diminished. From Augustine until now the spirit of the Christians has remained the same. There has been the same intolerance, the same undying hatred of all who think for themselves, and the same determination to crush out of the human brain all knowledge inconsistent with an ignorant creed...

According to the theologians, God, the Father of us all, wrote a letter to his children. The children have always differed somewhat as to the meaning of this letter. In consequence of these honest differences, these brothers began to cut out each other's hearts. In every land, where this letter from God has been read, the children to whom and for whom it was written have been filled with hatred and malice. They have imprisoned and murdered each other, and the wives and children of each other. In the name of God every possible crime has been committed, every conceivable outrage has been perpetrated. Brave men, tender and loving women, beautiful girls, and prattling babes have been exterminated in the name of Jesus Christ. For more than fifty generations the church has carried the black flag. Her vengeance has been measured only by her power. During all these years of infamy no heretic has ever been forgiven. With the heart of a fiend she has hated; with the clutch of avarice she has grasped; with the jaws of a dragon she has devoured; pitiless as famine, merciless as fire, with the conscience of a serpent: such is the history of the Church of God.

Why I Am Concerned About the Religious Reich:

The Religious Right is really OUT OF CONTROL and is exerting a greater and greater influence on our society. They are flexing their muscles in the political process, the economy and our entire culture.

Let us remember that the first time Christianity spread rapidly and gained control of the government (from 200 - 500 AD) it resulted in the utter collapse of Western Civilization and ushered in 1,000 years of darkness, superstition, ignorance and suffering.

Finally, after a millennium of Darkness, mankind began to see the Dawn of The Age of Reason and The Enlightenment. Humanity recovered some dignity, science was freed from the chains of religious superstition and real progress began.

The Constitution of the United States of America was one of the crowning achievements of The Enlightenment, being a document for the Establishment of a government that did NOT MAKE ONE SINGLE REFERENCE TO "GOD". With the establishment of the United States, government as well as science was freed from the domination of religious superstition.

Now, every day in the news there is some story about how the religionists are exerting their influence. Radical Clerics like James Dobson and Jerry Falwell get air time on network news. Religionists are organizing and boycotting businesses that do not adhere to their version of personal morality.

The specter of religious superstition is once again casting a frightening shadow over our world. The ghosts and demons of the Dark Ages, once believed to be banished forever by Reason, are again haunting our culture. Christianity destroyed civilization once before - it could happen again.

Freethought Resources

The Freethought Zone
Science and Reason Over Religion and Superstition
http://freethought.freeservers.com /

Freedom from Religion Foundation
http://www.ffrf.org /

Secular Humanism
http://www.secularhumanism.org /

Secular Web
http://www.infidels.org/index.shtml

Thomas Paine's The Age of Reason - Online
http://www.infidels.org/library/historical/thomas_paine/age_of_reason/index.shtml

Complete Works of Robert Ingersoll - Online
http://www.infidels.org/library/historical/robert_ingersoll/index.shtml

Dominionism's Theocratic Designs and Radical Clerics

Fundamentalist Radical Clerics such as Falwell, Dobson, and Robertson are not merely medieval throwbacks or misguided religious hacks. They are part of a well organized subversionary movement known as "Dominionism". Dominionism constitutes a serious threat to American Democracy. These Radical Clerics have developed and are executing a detailed plan to gradually replace the free, secular democratic society of the United States with a Theocracy.

It is critical that people become aware of the extreme agenda these people have for the United States and ultimately for the world. The results of the 2004 Presidential Election were not a fluke or something that was drummed up over a period of months. It has been in planning for over 20 years, and what we are seeing take place now is, in the words of Katherine Yurica, "the swift advance of a planned coup".

The Swift Advance of a Planned Coup: Conquering by Stealth and Deception - How the Dominionists Are Succeeding in Their Quest for National Control and World Power
http://www.yuricareport.com/Dominionism/TheSwiftAdvanceOfaPlannedCoup.htm

The Despoiling of America: How George W. Bush became the head of the new American Dominionist Church/State
http://www.yuricareport.com/Dominionism/TheDespoilingOfAmerica.htm

Video on the Christian Reconstructionist Dominionist Theocratic Agenda
http://www.theocracywatch.org/av/video_dominion.ram

The Rise of the Religious Right in the Republican Party
a public information project from TheocracyWatch.org
http://www.theocracywatch.org

The Religious Right - An Anti-American Terrorist Movement
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article8816.htm

[sphincter]

198. I may be wrong

....but I do strongly feel that comments like that are far worse than showing a nipple when shown on TV. Granted that ol' Pat didn't talk during the Superbowl, but still. Then again, being born and raised in Sweden makes me biased towards nudity. A wee bit of nekkid bodies doesn't hurt anyone in my opinion.

[opiate69]

199. "Opiate69 calls for the assassination of Robertson"

You know, I don't know about this doctrine of assassination, but if he thinks we're trying to assassinate him, I think that we really ought to go ahead and do it. It's a whole lot cheaper than starting a war. And I don't think any revivals will stop. But this man is a terrific danger and the United ... This is in our sphere of influence, so we can't let this happen. We have the Constitution, we have other doctrines that we have announced. And without question, this is a dangerous enemy in our midst, controlling a huge number of mindless zombies, that could hurt us very badly. We have the ability to take him out, and I think the time has come that we exercise that ability. We don't need another $200 billion war to get rid of one, you know, ass-backward preacher. It's a whole lot easier to have some of the covert operatives do the job and then get it over with.

[are_we_united_yet]

200. Would it be poetic justice

If Chavez was in heaven with some 8 oz boxing gloves when Pat arrived?

My money's on Chavez.

[Zenlitened]

201. Christian fundamentalism is destroying America.

From the terrorist bombings carried out by Eric Rudolph, to the nationwide effort to cast knowledge and reason out of the science classrooms, to the armageddon-fetishists setting US policy in the Middle East... to radical clerics calling for "hits" on their perceived enemies.

And all in the name of dear ol' lovable Jesus Christ.

Islamic fundamentalism may seem a bigger threat, but it's not. So far, at least, Islamists don't have a strangle-hold on our government. They're not walking the halls of power, or running multi-million broadcast empires, funding media assault teams and training academies, corrupting millions of Americans -- our neighbors, our co-workers, even our families -- with their bitter ideology.

It's christian fundamentalists who are doing this. And it's not enough to say "they're not real christians," because they ARE real christians. They worship christ as divine, the son of god and the path to salvation. Robertson alone commands a flock of millions, instructing them, blessing them, urging them in christly prayer, leading them in hymns to christ the lord.

What will it take for America to recognize this threat, and rise up and meet it? More bombings, more shootings, more christian solders out to kick some ass? Or will it be the slow strangulation of our American ideals, when your very thoughts can brand you an enemy, the person you love makes you a target, the very money you pay in taxes is used to make your place in society a ghetto, or perhaps a prison?

It will be a happy day when Pat Robertson is dead. The world will be a measurably better place, when the burden of his evil, hurtful hate no longer grind us down. But there are others like him, ready to step forward, and the sick and brainless followers are practically beyond count, ready to be set in motion by all the machinations of an empire assembled by Robertson, built on the backs of miners and other slaves, paid for in blood. What's the answer? Can the followers be cured, weaned away from their evil leaders? Or must we first "decapitate" the leadership, arrest them, try them on genuine charges, and put them away?

The Robertsons of the world aren't the crazies anymore, they're the mainstream, and those who profess to practice a different, gentler fomr of christianity have been relegated to the fringe. The enemy within has grown strong. Are we strong enough to confront it, before it tears our whole house down?

:shrug:

[reality based]

251. Christian fundamentalism is also destroying Christianity in America

Mainstream Christians as well as the more conventional fundamentalists had better start repudiating the likes of Robertson, Dobson etc. or they will be forced to live with their politicized right wing "religionism" for decades. Christianity will become a discredited political movement rather than a religion.

[Zenlitened]

322. Robertson is the mainstream.

Too late.

[fishwax]

202. Fuck Pat Robertson

he's a cancer on humanity. These comments of him should be spread far and wide in the msm. he should have no credibility left. :puke:

[genieroze]

203. I wonder which brethren he follows Rabbi Jesus or Judas. He sounds like a

Khrestian to me.

[kerrygoddess]

205. How Very Un-Christian

http://blog.thedemocraticdaily.com/?p=316

[washinfo89]

206. BREAKING:Bush wanted to meet w/ Sheehan

Breaking news from http://www.dilby.com

(8-23-05 1:39AM EST)

Sources close to http://www.dilby.com tell Dilby, the day before Cindy Sheehan left to attend to her mother, President Bush wanted to meet with her and create a media blitz. Bush had seen the public outcry and he almost gave in to the anti-war activist, but his closest advisors decided it would be best for Bush not to meet with the grieving mother because the far-left would use meeting against Republicans in upcoming elections. In addition, Michael Moore was to use the footage of the meeting between Bush and Sheehan to revive his agenda in order to help boost Democratic votes in the 2008 Presidential Election. Moore has had embedded cameras and/or correspondents just in case Sheehan met with President Bush.

Source: White House Insider, DM3
Publisher: Dilby.com

[washinfo89]

207. BREAKING:Bush wanted to meet w/ Cindy Sheehan

Breaking news from http://www.dilby.com

(8-23-05 1:39AM EST)

Sources close to The Dilby News Monitor tell Dilby, the day before Cindy Sheehan left to attend to her mother, President Bush wanted to meet with her and create a media blitz. Bush had seen the public outcry and he almost gave in to the anti-war activist, but his closest advisors decided it would be best for Bush not to meet with the grieving mother because the far-left would use meeting against Republicans in upcoming elections. In addition, Michael Moore was to use the footage of the meeting between Bush and Sheehan to revive his agenda in order to help boost Democratic votes in the 2008 Presidential Election. Moore has had embedded cameras and/or correspondents just in case Sheehan met with President Bush.

Source: White House Insider, DM3
Publisher: Dilby.com
..

[Stuckinthebush]

226. Everybody who believes this, stand on your head....

I'm sure that Bush was being held back from talking to Cindy. He really, really wanted to see her...I'm quite sure. But, alas, his handlers told him no because that evil Michael Moore was out there and he could scare the president.

Please. What crap.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

230. and clap your hands 7 times

[ElsewheresDaughter]

231. AMERICAN TALIBAN>>>Pat Robertson & Jerry Fartwell

[Jo March]

296. So, * was scared of Michael Moore?

Or political implications? To scared to meet with a grieving mother even though he "wanted" to?

Still makes him look like an insensitive, cowardly fraud.

[Lindsey]

323. I called and left a msg. on their voice mail and I

just sent an email. This man MUST be stopped.

[fishwax]

208. I like how this Venezuelan news source put "Christian" in quotes

for their headline of the story ...

http://www.vheadline.com/readnews.asp?id=45605

I wish our mainstream media would do that!

[Al-CIAda]

209. FCC Contact-

http://www.fcc.gov/

[maddezmom]

210. looks like * has his own 'fire brand radical cleric"

Robertson is a nutjob

[Erika]

213. Just another Bushie "Christian"

solicited by Rove.

[Raster]

215. Will he call for a prayer circle or just feature direct deposit

to the hitman fund. Praise the Lord.

[Maggie_May]

216. Such a good Christian

call on a assassination.

[LynneSin]

217. Why isn't this man's tax-free status revoked

he's a partisan nut job who hides behind a church for his taxfree status.

:grr:

[rodeodance]

219. Televangelist Calls for Chavez' Death

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050823/ap_on_re_us/robertson_assassination;_ylt=ArTm2cA9hYA.ciPKSXjCKh.s0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA3b2NibDltBHNlYwM3MTY-
Televangelist Calls for Chavez' Death

55 minutes ago

VIRGINIA BEACH, Va. - Religious broadcaster Pat Robertson suggested on-air that American operatives assassinate Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez to stop his country from becoming "a launching pad for communist infiltration and Muslim extremism."

"We have the ability to take him out, and I think the time has come that we exercise that ability," Robertson said Monday on the Christian Broadcast Network's "The 700 Club."

"We don't need another $200 billion war to get rid of one, you know, strong-arm dictator," he continued. "It's a whole lot easier to have some of the covert operatives do the job and then get it over with."

Chavez has emerged as one of the most outspoken critics of
President Bush, accusing the United States of conspiring to topple his government and possibly backing plots to assassinate him. U.S. officials have called the accusations ridiculous.......

[Roland99]

220. Contact the 700 Club and give them your opinion:

http://www.cbn.com/700club/features/BringItOn/askpat.asp



Here's what I sent:


Where in the Bible...

did Jesus say it was ok to murder one's political foes?

I seem to recall Jesus teaching the Beatitudes. Do you remember those? I seriously doubt a militant, radical cleric such as yourself even cares about what the Bible says. You're like the typical GOP member today: money, money, money, power, money, power.

Do the world a favor and make yourself scarce.

[cliss]

262. Roland, I did it.

I gave REVEREND Robberson a piece of my mind. I love the grand finale: "May the Lord RICHLY bless you". Yeah, Right.
Thx.

[tomg]

332. Thanks for the suggestion. I did mine in

the form of a quiz:

Dear Pat

I posted under "other" because you don't have a "political assassination" category. While I have a pretty good idea that Torquemada might support you, and I think George Fox might come down hard on the other side, how about - now this is a tough one - Dietrich Bonhoeffer. Would he agree that its just okey dokey to knock off foreign political leaders we don't like. Remember, he did shift from pacifism to involvement in the planning of the Hitler's death. At the same time, he was a German clergyman who put his own life on the line. While you can use the Beatitudes, you can't rely on the Monroe Doctrine. You may start now.

edit: a typo

[YankeyMCC]

222. A terrorist in our midst

Oh wait he's a xian terrorist so I guess that gives him a pass.

[Algorem]

223. Hey,Jesus was a wise guy,capiche?

[LWolf]

224. Out of the closet

These fascists are so far out of the closet I don't know why they bother to hide behind religion any more.

Oh, wait, I do. It's the tool they use to control the followers. As long as the "faithful" are following, they retain some power.

I would so love to return to a world where Christianity had something to do with Christ, where peace did not mean war, and where the sounds of silence did not mean people talking without speaking or hearing without listening.

[mtnester]

227. If you or i threatened, in public, to kill say our neighbor, our spouse,

our co-worker, would we or would we not be picked up by the police?

So, where are the US Marshal's? This man just said we ought to assasinate him. He was TALKING to an audience.

Just cause money does not change hands does not mean it wasn't attempted murder.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

229. may have just cursed himself with his own words...isn't that Biblical?

[noonwitch]

233. I feel badly for the good people in his organization

I read a book about the PTL scandal, called "Forgiven". Behind all these televangelists, there are numerous good people who are involved because they think they can feed the poor, clothe the naked, and visit the imprisoned, like Jesus called christians to do, or at least contribute money to programs to do those things.

"The 700 Club" has a charitable organization called Operation Rescue, that funds a number of outreach programs at home and abroad. In Detroit, they funded a few churches who had food distribution programs for the poor-not just members of their churches, but the poor at large. One church was handing out free lunches to the homeless people in Clark Park at one point, I don't know if this program is still going on. They also fund school clothes for poor kids, so that every kid has at least one new outfit for the new school year. They bring medical care to third world countries, and famine relief. The good works done by them should be separated from the insane ravings of their leader.

Perhaps Pat is developing alzheimer's? Or there's more in those age-defying shakes than we all thought?

[lonestarnot]

234. This freak has got to go!

[oc2002]

235. the best way to address Pat Roberston is to frame him as a nut case with .

tin foil Christian paranoia. And the things he spouts are more about the lack of his understanding and more about his phsycotic rantings of a lunatic.

[tgnyc]

236. Dementia.

[SodoffBush]

238. I wonder why he didn't call for an assasination on Seko/Taylor

or were dictator Mobutu Sese Seko and thug Charles Taylor more than willing to appease Robertson in his effort to swindle diamonds from the people of Zaire under the guise of a "humanitarian" mission?

http://www.skeptictank.org/robem2.htm

[FreeStateDemocrat]

241. It's listed on MSN homepage: TV preacher: Kill Chavez

[underthedome]

243. Are assassination comments protected by free speech? nm

nm

[volitionx]

246. Look...

Christianity is a CULT.

Robertson is A CULT LEADER.

He's also insane.

And powermad.

Interesting how righties like Chinese imports (uh, China is a COMMUNIST COUNTRY), but they can't handle Cuba, or Venezuela, which is socialist, because it nationalized its oil industry.

The neocons have their pet dictators, and their pet communists, but they hate any of them that don't cooperate.

Hell, they don't like France, and France is a democracy. It's all a matter of who they can get to do their bidding.

If you don't cooperate with the Global Corporate Empire, you're an enemy, according to these evil fascists. Cooperation is WAY more important than your ideology or politics, because when you cooperate with the Global Corporate Empire, you make the neocons LOTS of money and give them LOTS of power to fuel their huge, insecure egos.

Also interesting how dumbass Robertson thinks Chavez would allow Muslim extremists to use Venezuela as a launchpad for terrorism. What on earth does Chavez have to do with Islam?

[McCamy Taylor]

248. OMG! This man calls himself a Christian????

[Mr_Spock]

254. Boston TV - CH 7 news "are Roberson's remarks "un-Christian" "

It is a featured story on the mid-day news on a local Boston news station - Ch 7 news. "Are Pat Robertson's calls to assassinate Venezuelan president Hugo Chavez un-Christian"?

Unusual for a story discussed here to be on the mid-day news.

[defiant1]

265. Sweet Cheeeeebus.....

"Are Pat Robertson's calls to assassinate Venezuelan president Hugo Chavez un-Christian?"

Sounds like they answered their own question.

[Mr_Spock]

268. That's why it got my attention :D

They were making it clear that just describing what he did was clearly anti-Christian.

[Jo March]

294. "Are his remarks unChristian?" - Let me count the ways! nt

[strizi64]

255. stinking SOB, puke n/t

[Merrick]

256. My letter of complaint to the FCC

I feel the remarks pat Robertson made on his Christian Broadcasting Network - the "700 Club" calling for the assassination of Venezuela's President Hugo Chavez on Monday August 22, 2005 were utterly indecent. I realize that he made his endorsement without using any four letter words or referencing excretory organs, but certainly there must be something in the FCC guidelines that prohibits against and sanctions the punishment for the promotion of the murder of a democratically elected leader of a sovereign nation?

It seems to me such remarks made by an individual of Robertson's prominence and highest of political contacts not only embarass America's citizens but also potentially compromise our welfare and safety by their inflammatory impact. Therefore I urge you to take the strongest of punitive actions against Robertson and the CBN network.

----

(sigh) my first complaint letter to the FCC. Sort of exhilerating... now I know how all those Christian housewives get hooked writing letters griping about poo-poo jokes.

[Nightwing]

258. Screw Robertson and his ilk

What a pack of insane lunatics leading the unreligious right straight to hell. Hell is too good of a place for these extremists and more than likely even satan doesnt want him or his followers.

[gauguin57]

260. When, oh when, is Robertson going to get his syphillis treated?

It's already rotted out at least half of his brain. Get to the free clinic, already, Pat!

[saigon68]

297. And Diarrhea of the Mouth too

[mrfrapp]

263. The Revolution Will Not Be Televised

Check out the documentary, The Revolution Will Not Be Televised for a good look at this "popular coup" Robertson talks about.

[norml]

266. Why Pat Robertson's Statements Help Hugo Chavez: By TIM PADGETT

Why Pat Robertson's Statements Help Hugo Chavez

The Venezuelan President has long thrived on criticism from the U.S.
By TIM PADGETT

Posted Tuesday, Aug. 23, 2005


Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez has a new best friend this morning: television evangelist Pat Robertson. With his astonishing call for the left-wing leader's assassination last night—"I think that we really ought to go ahead and do it...We have the ability to take him out"—Robertson will have surely made Chavez an even more popular anti-yanqui icon in Venezuela, Latin America and around the world. Like his mentor Fidel Castro, Chavez thrives on threats from the U.S., real or perceived. He has long insisted that his foes are plotting to kill him, and this summer had armed civilians training with the Venezuelan military to prepare for what he says is an imminent U.S. invasion. A public effort to whack him, offered from the right-wing Christian establishment so closely aligned with President Bush, is just what Chavez needs to keep his approval ratings soaring as high as the price of the Venezuelan oil he controls, the largest crude reserves in the hemisphere.

Chavez is no doubt a source of concern for Washington, if only because Venezuela is America's fourth-largest foreign oil supplier. Chavez's erratic and often bellicose anti-U.S. rhetoric—he publicly called Bush an "ass____" in Spanish last year—as well as his desire to sell less oil to the U.S. and more to ideological allies like China, are hardly comforting as gas nears $3 per gallon. But neither is Chavez's embrace of nations like Iran, and nor is the fact that he's leading a politically potent (and, to the Bush Administration, potentially destabilizing) wave of angry neo-leftism in Latin America, from Argentina to Mexico.

But Chavez holds cards that make remarks like Robertson's all the more incendiary on the Latin American street, where language like "U.S. imperialism" suddenly has currency again. One is the past: Latin Americans have too many vivid and bitter memories of U.S. intervention in their countries—operations that sometimes included brazen assassinations —which is why the Bush Administration got burned by accusations it backed a failed coup against Chavez in 2002. Another is democratic legitimacy: Chavez, for all his authoritarian tendencies, is a democratically elected head of state who last year won a national recall referendum approved by international observers.

Perhaps an even more important factor is populist backing: leftism is on the rise again in Latin America for a reason, namely the burgeoning feeling around the region that a decade of U.S.-backed capitalist reforms has simply widened an already epic gap between rich and poor—and that the Bush Administration is indifferent to it. As Chavez uses his multi-billion-dollar oil revenues to fund the kind of social projects that Venezuela's legions of impoverished never saw from his kleptocratic predecessors—and to subsidize cheaper oil for his cash-strapped Latin neighbors—more people are willing to defend him, as most Latin leaders did last spring when Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice toured South America.


snip


http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1097267,00.html

[Tom Kitten]

267. it made USA Today

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2005-08-22-robertson-_x.htm

(snip)...Robertson has made controversial statements in the past. In October 2003, he suggested that the State Department be blown up with a nuclear device. He has also said that feminism encourages women to "kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism and become lesbians."

[Judi Lynn]

282. There's also a poll with that USA article:

Is it appropriate for Pat Robertson to sanction assassination?

It's OK
12%

No, but the CIA should help topple Hugo Chavez
27%

No, the U.S. should not interfere in other nations
62%

TOTAL VOTES:
4777

Unbelievable that there would be ANY people supporting his position.
Our country has a long way to go, doesn't it?

[Tom Kitten]

298. Thanks for noticing the poll

I missed it!

12%, are that many of us really that twisted?

Also, notice they bring up an unrelated third option that really has nothing to do with the original comments.

[genieroze]

301. Our country is going back-wards, RIGHT back to the Spanish Inquisition.

[Roland99]

269. Did anybody write to ABC Family?

http://abcfamily.go.com/feedback/


You might want to write up your letter first and then go to that site and paste it in. I'm damn near blind now after looking at that green screen while I typed in my response.

[ignatius 2]

337. I did, and everyone should do the same..get this

vile man off television,hurt him in his pocketbook,his real God.

A man who advocates murder and assassination of a democratically elected president..hmmmmm..isn't that TERRORISM?

He and Mann Coulter should share the same cell in the lunatic asylum!

[belle]

380. Oh, yes.

[JVS]

271. But Pat, that would be an ABORTION of a head of state!

[lady lib]

278. (((chuckle))) Good Point.

He's proof positive that if you marinate in the Kool-Aid long enough, you go bat shit insane from the toxic effects.

[redqueen]

274. So when will other Christian leaders denounce Robertson and Falwell?

[pookieblue]

327. “These comments are morally reprehensible and dangerously suggestive"

“These comments are morally reprehensible and dangerously suggestive"
Rev. Jesse Jackson Condemns Pat Robertson's Calls to Kill Venezuela President

http://www.venezuelanalysis.com/news.php?newsno=1728

[redqueen]

334. Awesome...

Now I want to see more religious leaders do the same.

[I concur]

280. Hair full of dingle berries...

...Robertson is a clown!

[Catboater]

283. Blessed be the Neocon

OH





MY




GOD!

I guess Pat is on to the frequently overlooked part of the Beatitudes where Jesus says "Kill! Kill! Kill! Kill! Kill the bastards until they're dead!" WWJD = who would Jesus destroy? Can you tell the difference between the Christian loonies and the Muslim ones, because I can't. We're screwed. Can we start drinking now?

[nigelthebrit]

284. Loving God = Loving your neighbour

Somewhere in the Gospels, it is written that Jesus said: 'You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your mind and all your strengh. You shall also love your neighbour. There is no commandment greater than these'.

So, we have in Algebraic terms a simple equation, where:
X = love of God
Y = love of your neighbour
As Jesus put it: X = Y

Now Pat Robertson is saying that he loves God, but wants Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez to be 'taken out'. So, Robertson says that, as he insists he's a Christian everyone is his neighbour, except for Hugo Chavez.

So in effect according to Robertson: X =
But as I wrote above: X = Y

Clearly, they can't BOTH be right!

[nigelthebrit]

287. Love God, love your neighbour

Somewhere in the Gospels, it is written that Jesus said: 'You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your mind and all your strengh. You shall also love your neighbour. There is no commandment greater than these'.

So, we have in Algebraic terms a simple equation, where:
X = love of God
Y = love of your neighbour
As Jesus put it: X = Y

Now Pat Robertson is saying that he loves God, but wants Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez to be 'taken out'. So, Robertson says that, as he insists he's a Christian, everyone is his neighbour, except for Hugo Chavez.

So in effect according to Robertson:
X = (Y - 1)
But as I wrote above:
X = Y which isn't the same, is it?

Clearly, they can't BOTH be right!

[boddhi]

293. address to send email to 700 club

http://www.cbn.com/contact/feedback-700club.asp

flood 'em

[Don1]

321. Did.

Subject: Your devotion to Assassination

Dear Pat,

Recently, you asked for the assassination of Hugo Chavez on the 700 club.

You said there was a popular coup against Chavez that overthrew him, but Chavez won the recall vote by 60%. You advocated for Chavez's murder. The elected leader, Chavez, and the elected National Assembly have given the poor economic justice through Social Security and universal health care. It is a sin for you to advocate taking this away from the Venezuelan people through lies and murder.

You simply are not nice and I would like you to answer this. Didn't your mother ever tell you that if you have nothing nice to say, then don't say anything at all?

[Selteri]

295. Another care of Christian Compassion N/T.

[Martti]

300. This even made news in

Finland...

[StElsewhere]

304. Honestly People, think about it....

I'm sure this came from a "word of knowledge" directly from the Lord. Yup, one of those late night calls Pat gets from God himself, telling him to drop a small nuke on Venezuela and bust a cap in Chavez.I can't understand why this fine man hasn't been tapped by this administration for Secretary of Defense or Secretary of State. With his expert knowledge of world events,he's just what this administration needs. Sarcasm will now be turned off!

[boddhi]

302. and the FCC's complaint email is:

mailto: [email protected]

Flood them too. Here's mine:

Re: Pat Robertson's comment about assassinating Hugo Chavez

I just think it should be known that I consider this comment – broadcast over airwaves and cable to potentially every television in the United States and abroad – to be far more distasteful and morally reprehensible than Janet Jackson’s breast or any of the other items with sexual overtones that seems to take up the FCC’s oversight priorities.



I am asking that the FCC begin a full scale investigation IMMEDIATELY into this comment and pursue fines and legal remedies to the fullest possible extent of the law.

[anotherdrew]

320. sent something similar just now

[TankLV]

367. Just did too. Short and sweet.

Immediately remove that terrorist Pat Robertson and his 700 club from OUR airwaves and access a large fine, NOW!

Sincerely,

[moondust]

305. "Assassins for Jesus"

Chapters opening soon nationwide!

[eleonora]

306. Time to ask for a thorough investigation on this terrorist!

Send him to Guantanamo!

[amb123]

307. About Rev. Putz, I mean Rev. Pat.

I can just see him singing new words to an old childrens song:

Jesus Loves Me, this I know
For the Bible tells me so.
Kill the Liberals, Moslems and Fags!
Stuff them all in body bags!

Yes, Jesus Loves Me!
Yes, Jesus Hates You!
The Lord wants me to kill you!
The Bible tells me so.

:wtf: :puke:

[0007]

308. What kind of people donate money to this monster?

[sakabatou]

310. He's been off his rocker for a long. LONG time

[Cobalt Violet]

311. So thats what "Thou shall not kill" means.

I'm so glad this has been cleared up for me.

[paineinthearse]

313. What will AG Gonzales say?

http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=51999

Attorney General Alberto Gonzales and Prosecutor General Mario Iguaran to Hold Joint Press Availability in Bogota, Colombia

8/23/2005 1:53:00 PM


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

To: Assignment Desk, Daybook Editor

Contact: Justice Department, 202-514-2008

News Advisory:

Attorney General Alberto R. Gonzales and Prosecutor General Mario Iguaran will hold a joint press availability in Bogota, Colombia on WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 24, 2005 at 9:50 a.m. CDT.

WHO: U.S. Attorney General Alberto R. Gonzales, Colombian Prosecutor General Mario Iguaran

WHAT: Press Availability

WHEN: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 at 9:50 a.m. CDT (Cameras pre-set by 9:20 a.m. CDT)

WHERE: Fiscalia Auditorium, Diagonal 22B 52-01, Bogota, Colombia

NOTE: ALL media MUST PRESENT GOVERNMENT-ISSUED PHOTO ID (such as driver's license) as well as VALID MEDIA CREDENTIALS. All press inquiries regarding logistics should be directed to the U.S. Embassy Press Office at 571-315-2159.

http://www.usnewswire.com/

-0-

/© 2005 U.S. Newswire 202-347-2770/

[leftupnorth]

315. Robertson announces anti-war spending stance

"We don't need another $200 billion war to get rid of one, you know, strong-arm dictator. It's a whole lot easier to have some of the covert operatives do the job and then get it over with."

he just wants to get rid of the people he hates for cheaper.
$200 billion was obviously too much for Pat.....

what a fuckin hypochristian

[Kolesar]

316. NY Times... new story 2:57 pm 8/23/05

Vice President Jose Vicente Rangel called Robertson ''a man who seems to have quite a bit of influence in that country,'' adding sarcastically that his words were ''very Christian.''

The comments ''reveal that religious fundamentalism is one of the great problems facing humanity in these times,'' Rangel said.
http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/national/AP-Robertson-Assassination.html?hp&ex=1124856000&en=0e6c6e070fefa882&ei=5094&partner=homepage

[geniph]

317. To Radical Cleric Robertson: Since you are an obvious moron,

I will use words of one syllable to explain something to you:

Thou Shalt Not Kill.

[ignatius 2]

338. I love your map, please,please,please,let that all blue

color become a reality.

[Judi Lynn]

318. CNN poll:Do you think Pat Robertson's comment about Venezuela's Hugo Chave

Do you think Pat Robertson's comment about Venezuela's Hugo Chavez was out of line?

Currently:

Yes 80% 99794 votes

No 20% 25101 votes

Total: 124895 votes

http://www.cnn.com/

Lower right corner.

[Kolesar]

319. You can watch the video there

Truly creepy

[Judi Lynn]

330. It's bad! Can't believe this monster has tax-exempt status

while he's stuffing his pockets. Unbelievable.

What he's doing has NOTHING to do with the Church, behind which he hides, so he needs to lose that tax exemption.

Can a man look any sillier?

[Kolesar]

351. 81% yes, "out of line", with 192,000 votes now

[TankLV]

369. Who are these 20% who SUPPORT TERRORISM?!

I think the justice dept and fatherland security would be interested in these people.

Ther certainly are interested in anybody who supports Sein Fein, the IRA and other causes!

[Don_1967]

324. CHRISTIAN???

I don't think so Christians are should be a light in a world of darkness.Pat Robertson JUST MADE THE WORLD A LITTER DARKER.

[MasonJar]

325. I just e-mailed that worthless piece of human offal. Please do so

too if you haven't already.

[robertpaulsen]

326. Great column: Pat Robertson is Not a Christian by Rev. Graylan Hagler

Pat Robertson is Not a Christian
by Reverend Graylan Scott Hagler

Pat Robertson suggested this past Monday that the President of Venezuela, Hugo Chavez, be assassinated by operatives of the United States government! Though his comments are newsworthy because of his following in the 700 Club and his political stature and role in the political religious right, his comments however are out of synch with everything that has been handed down to us from the teachings of Jesus Christ. What I am suggesting here is that Pat Robertson and individuals of his ilk are not practicing or preaching Christ but have become adherents of a political movement in this nation that attempts to use Christianity towards their own narrow political ends. I believe that there is a role for Christianity in the events of the world, but the teachings of Christ leads us to love one another, strain and stretch to understand each other, and dare to know each other enough that we come to an understanding of one another and from that create a world that is not built on might and winning but on understanding and unity. Clearly the comments of Robertson defy the framework we find in the gospels of Jesus Christ.
Some may argue that Christ existed in another time and did not have an understanding of the kind of world we exist in today. But any follower of Jesus knows that as he was human and he was also fully God, and therefore his understanding of the world, humankind and our needs were not captive to a time but applies to all time! Knowing this I do not see anywhere in the gospels of Christ that he condones, suggests or advocates murder or political assassination! Instead Jesus reminds us to beware of Pharisees, and Robertson, Dobson and others have become the Pharisees of our contemporary world!

What do we find in the Good News of Christ? We find love is expressed continually and unceasingly. The gospels admonish us to do unto others, as you would have them do unto you. We finds words in the gospels that define the mission of Christians as the elevation of the poor, freedom for those who are oppressed, salvation for the lost, and hope for the hopeless. Jesus says come unto me all of you who are weak and heavy laden and I will give you rest. He does not say come to me those who are looking for political expediency and I will show you who to and how to assassinate!

Sure there has been trouble in Venezuela, and some will suggest that it is communism struggling to raise it head. Others will suggest that the poor of Venezuela have been poor too long in a nation that is the 5th largest oil producer in the world. Some will suggest that too much of the resources have been in the hands of too few, and that the poor of the land have found hope in a political leader, Hugo Chavez. I would not suggest that Chavez is a saint, for no person is perfect, but I do know that Chavez was elected even while the greatest power in the world, the United States government, did everything possible to thwart his election. This is hardly the neighborliness that Jesus Christ calls us to emulate.

more...

http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0823-32.htm

[Tom Kitten]

335. Pat Robertson Stirs Outrage in Venezuela With Call to Assassinate Chavez

"...Robertson's statement was ``incredibly stupid'' and ``has no reflection on reality,'' said U.S. Senator Norm Coleman, a Republican from Minnesota who is chairman of the Senate's Foreign Relations subcommittee on the western hemisphere. Coleman and Senator Mel Martinez, a Republican from Florida, spoke to reporters after meeting government and business leaders in Rio de Janeiro...."

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/economy/politics.html


(mods sorry if this a dupe or in the wrong forum)

[Eastside Blue]

342. Thought this article by Patti Davis was great ...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9053644/site/newsweek/

[President Kerry]

343. Evil motherfucker.

Why don't we assasinate you? I don't care if i get flamed or banned. You have brought more suffering and injustice on people than most dictators. How DARE you call for an assassination of ANY human being, let alone a democratically elected leader, for ANY reason? Much less, simply because his ideology isn't as twisted as yours. And you, rotten bastard, have the gall to call yourself a Christian. You can go straight to hell Rev Robertson, you'll be in good company there. :mad:

[NYC]

344. 1-800-759-0700

If you would like to contact us by phone, please call our prayer counseling center at 1-800-759-0700.

Call him. Remind him of: Thou shalt not kill.

[VegasWolf]

345. LOL. If I call and tell them that I have these awful feelings for Chavez

do you think that they will consul me with prayers or send
me a plane ticket to Venezuela?

[wrate]

346. Two words: senile dementia n/t

[underthedome]

349. Is this Pat's Dial-A-Hitman number? nm

nm

[VegasWolf]

364. Their Prayer Service Call Center has been outsourced to India! nt

[TankLV]

365. I just called. They hung up on me. Wonder why!

[crowcalling]

348. I sent in an email

Asking when he was going to publish HIS version of the bible and name his NEW religon. I signed it Jesus.

[despairing optimist]

361. Pat Robertson: Another one of those things that make Jesus puke

Right, Sister Mary Ignatius? :-)

[Steely_Dan]

373. What a silly little man...

'nuff said.

-Paige

[Imagevision]

374. nominated and Kicked!!

http://downingstreetmemo.com/

[Nothing Without Hope]

375. another relevant thread - US fingerprints on Venezuela coup

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2029862
Thread title: US Fingerprints on Venezuelan Coup

No one at DU will be surprised at this. Robertson is saying what the Bushies would say if they wouldn't be heard by reporters. I have to wonder if Robertson is losing his mental functions, making such a careless statement in public.

[Gyre]

376. Further evidence that there is no god.

I mean the fact that this little fucker is still taking up space on my planet.

Gyre

[grateful581]

378. Pat Robertson makes me sick!

I hate this guy! I bet none of the evangelical Christians will speak out against him or his outrageous remarks.

[Surya Gayatri]

379. Interview with Robertson true believer

More evidence of Pat Robertson's pernicious influence from:

http://storiesinamerica.blogspot.com/

posted by Rose Aguilar @ 11:01 AM, August 17, 2005

Mary Fowler, 54, Housekeeper

Why do you think gas prices are so high?

From what I've read, they say it's because of the Iraq war.
I've also read about alternatives to gas and even automobiles
that use alternatives, but for some reason, the big oil
companies bought up the patents for that, so it's not just the
Iraq war and it's not President Bush's fault. He gets blamed
for everything, but it's not his fault. It's just greed from
other people. I feel like the president is doing everything he
can to help.

Like what?

For one thing, he is protecting our country by being in Iraq.
We can't pull out too soon because they'll think we're chicken
and they'll try to attack us again. We can't pull out until
they're able to fend for themselves. Those who are strong are
supposed to help those who are weak. We are strong and we're
that way for a reason. We've always been peacemakers. As long
as we keep the peace, we'll be blessed.

So you believe we're acting as peacemakers in Iraq?

Yes and we're protecting the innocent. Muslims want to rule
the world. They want to take over the whole world. That's
their evil purpose.

[snip...]


Where do you get your information about the war?

The Bible and THE 700 CLUB. I also listen to preachers who
know what's going on. PAT ROBERTSON.

[snip...]

Have you always been Republican?

When I first registered, I was a Democrat. Just from studying
in school, I thought that's what I wanted to be because I
believed in government for the people, by the people and of
the people. But after I was saved, I realized the Republican
beliefs are me so I switched and I'm glad I did.


What does it mean to be a Republican?

Republicans pick the people who believe like we do.

You mean believe in the Bible?

Yes and godly principles. If we kick god out, we'll be like
other countries that have AIDS, sickness and poverty. God
created the earth, he created the rules and he knows what's
best for everybody.

Unfortunately, we have AIDS, sickness and poverty in this
country.

Yes, because we allow homosexuality.

You blame homosexuality for AIDS, sickness and poverty?

Well, sometimes people are innocent. This nation is in
trouble. The ACLU are run by communists and funded by
communists. What does that tell you? They want to take god
away from us.

[snip...]

I've interviewed a lot of people on this trip and while they
want freedom of religion, none have said they want to take god
away.

When they first started the country, those that didn't believe
in Jesus were put in jail. Once a country is dedicated to god
and founded on its principles, it has to stay that way.

What issues are most important to you?

Getting the right Supreme Court Justice in. I want god back in
the schools. They kick god out of schools and they wonder why
we have drugs and sex in the schools.

(At this point in our conversation, a gas attendant approached
me and said I couldn't interview people without permission
from the corporate office. I took a photo of Mary and her
Bible sticker and went on my way.)

[Megahurtz]

381. The good thing about this is that

this just makes him look incredibly stupid to sane people.

I think that the guy is obviously going senile or something.:crazy:
He should just shut the fuck up, and step down.

[bnr65432]

382. venezuela should declare war on radical christian fundamentalistterrorists

they could form a coalition free us from our evil dictator, fight terror
maybe even invade the rest of the "axis of evil" (britain)