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sintax Donating Member (891 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 12:43 PM
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Armstrong Pushes Bush for Cancer Research
My Comment: I'm sorry Lance Armstrong makes me ill. Cancer research in its present paradigm will Never eliminate cancer. The disease is Industrial Society, Cancer is the Symptom.


Armstrong Pushes Bush for Cancer Research


Sunday August 21, 2005 5:16 PM

AP Photo WX103

CRAWFORD, Texas (AP) - Lance Armstrong said he set a one-day record during his bike ride with President Bush - not for cycling but for lobbying.

During their two-hour ride on Bush's ranch Saturday, Armstrong pushed the president to spend more federal money on cancer research.

``I've never asked someone for so much money before,'' the seven-time Tour de France winner and cancer survivor told ABC's ``This Week'' for its Sunday broadcast.

Armstrong added that the Iraq war, which he opposes, never came up during their 17-mile ride.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,1280,-5224308,00.html
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 12:49 PM
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1. I'm for it. There many new designer drugs and gene therapies that
are extremely promising that will save patients lives and mitigate
their suffering. True, the root cause is industrial pollution, but
I am still on the side of doing as much as possible for the sick.
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bribri16 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 11:00 PM
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14. US already spends billions on cancer research via NIH where
much of the money finds its way into lavish offices, unneeded building expansion, and unjustified salaries and benefits not to mention the waste and fraud that takes place at the university research facilities. But who is paying attention...it's only tax payer money.
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burrowowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 01:59 AM
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17. Also when the NIH
does find good stuff, it is given away free to pharmaceuticals!
Lance is a bit deluded! No money on war and the money spent on health insurance, environmnet, renewable energy, etc. would do a lot more. As well as growing organic food!
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preciousdove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 12:53 PM
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2. You may be right but cancer can be treated
and not funding research into treatment for current sufferers is barbaric.

The battle between the corporatists in medicine and healers still rages on and education is the only cure. Rather than hating Lance how about using this opportunity to educate by a LTTE or even point DUers into some understandable information we can use to talk to others?

I consider myself both educated and interested in medicine but the shear complexities of all of this often leaves me confused as to who are the good guys and who are the bad.
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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 12:55 PM
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3. I believe I said yesterday that Lance was going to do this.
I am 150% behind him on this. I would also support him conversing with Pinochet, Hitler, or Pol Pot if it saved the lives of cancer sufferers.


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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 12:56 PM
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4. good luck actually getting it.
remember AIDS and africa?
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 09:50 PM
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12. Exactly!
Edited on Sun Aug-21-05 09:51 PM by zidzi
It's nice that Lance got the creep's ear for two hours while he wouldn't give Cindy 5 minutes..but hey..what's a photo opportunist to do?

Lance=Good Cindy=BAD

I don't know what assurances Lance got but I wouldn't count on it, either.
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 07:44 AM
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18. actually, in a perverse way, I APPROVE of the armstrong photo op
because its releasing photos of Bush doing anything but talking to Cindy. It reinforces his "I've got to lead a balanced life" meme.

so, its all good.

I however, think armstrong is chasing the wind, here. I don't for a moment think anything Bush says or promises a good cause can be counted on. And I say that as a cancer survivor, of the same cancer Armstrong survived: testicular cancer.
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Diane R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 01:07 PM
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5. Well, good for him for trying, I suppose
But, there is no doubt in my mind that Rove used him only for a photo op (which thankfully probably backfired on them), and the 'president' didn't listen to a word said about funding research. This is the unintelligent 'intelligent design' 'president'. Too many apostrophes, I know...but how else do you say those phrases without indicating that your eyeballs are rolling around in your head thinking about the absurdity of it all?
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doodadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 01:07 PM
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6. Go Lance Go!
Hey--if he can get money for research, go for it.

My mom has intestinal and liver cancer. She is going to be going for a new procedure, where they introduce tiny beads into the system that act in the same way as chemo, but supposedly less side effects. She initially tried to undergo traditional chemo, had a very bad reaction to it and almost died right then and there. So....hopefully this will do the trick.
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 01:50 AM
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16. Good luck to your mom -- I hope her treatment works for her
My mom is a two-time cancer survivor, and treatments for cancer are really rugged. Someone once commented that treatment for cancer has not yet progressed beyond "slash, burn, and poison" and that's fairly true.

Whatever Lance can accomplish by lobbying Chimpy will be all to the good. I'm willing to thank him for trying -- I couldn't bear to be in the same room with W, much less talk with him.

Hekate
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WatchWhatISay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 01:22 PM
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7. My husband said he heard that Armstrong was supposed to go to Camp Casey
yesterday, as well as his bike ride with *. I can't find anything about this anywhere.

Has anyone else heard anything about this?
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 01:36 PM
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9. me too I read he was supposed to meet with Cindy upon her returning.
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BlueStatesForever Donating Member (179 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 01:30 PM
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8. When I see that on his Discovery Channel special
I'll believe it.

Otherwise, it's just heresay to cover his butt.
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Greeby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 01:52 PM
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10. Pushes Bush?
What, was Georgie riding without the training wheels for the first time :evilgrin:
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DanCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 09:34 PM
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11. The reason why Bush falls off bike revealled
He practices simple math while ridding bike without a calculator. 2+2 =crash
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 09:54 PM
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13. I thought it was because the "Fast - Slo" labels on his shifters fell off
:shrug:
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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 08:16 AM
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19. Must have spoiled the Chimp's bike ride.
Lance had a captive audience for two hours. Of course, the Boy King could have ordered him taken away by one of his bodyguards. They weren't exactly alone on that ride.
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 08:49 AM
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20. I got knocked last week for saying I'd love to have Bush's ear for a ride.
Too bad he didn't give him a hard time about the war. I think it would be interesting to get an off the record talk about the motivations involved.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 08:59 AM
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21. I think if he did, * would have thrown a stick into Lance's wheel
or had the SS effect an "accident"


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