Hillary Clinton Leads Among Democratic Presidential Hopefuls

[Mark E. Smith]

NY1 News 5/6/5

Senator Hillary Clinton is the top pick among Democrats for the party's presidential nomination, according to a new national poll released Friday.

Some 40 percent of Democrats surveyed by the Marist College Institute for Public Opinion said they'd give the nod to the New York senator
to carry the party's banner in 2008. Just 18 percent opted for Mass senator and former presidential candidate John Kerry, while 14 percent wanted former Senator John Edwards Kerry's 2004 running mate.

On the Republican side, former Mayor Rudolph Giuliani is the top pick for the 2008 presidential nomination, with 25 percent of GOP voters on his side. Senator John McCain of Arizona got 20 percent, and Florida Governor Jeb Bush 10 percent.

http://www.ny1.com/ny1/content/index.jsp?stid=1&aid=50666

[Worst Username Ever]

1. Feh. It is 3.5 years away, not going to worry my head.

Guiliani won't carry his own state though, that would be awesome.

[Cha]

5. Too bad I won't be here to vote

against him in New York if he should be so ego-fed to get the repuke nomination.

[MN ChimpH8R]

12. No way Giuliani gets the Repuke nom

The hardcore RW wingnuts would never be able to choke down his support for abortion rights and gay rights even if :puke: Brother Pat Fraudbertson :puke: tries to lead the fundie sheeple in Rudy's direction.

He would never survive the Repuke primaries.

Can't say I am thrilled about Hillary's lead among Dems, though. At this point I am leaning to Dean or Clark, but it's two more years until it really matters.

[Cha]

15. Welcome to DU,

MN ChimpH8R!

I'm thinking Dean won't run because of the Dem Chairmanship thing.

But what do I know..it's still far away..at this point I'm looking at Clark.

It will be interesting to see who does get the Dem nod.

[still_one]

2. well, how about wes clark, was he even in the list?

how about byah?

I for won will not vote for anyone who voted to give * the authority to go to war

As far as I am concerned it shifted the seperation of powers which our founding fathers NEVER intended...

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[still_one]

13. I was just throwing out some names

i.e. Boxer didn't vote for giving * the authority to go to Iraq, I would vote for her

I mostly agree with your response

[FrenchieCat]

27. War is a racket.....

Very familiar. Where you someone else before becoming War is a racket?

Clark is a great Democrat and my understanding is that we don't make negative statements off the cuff against Democrats just because....UNLESS unless we can back them up.

Eerie...how you remind me of that someone else.

[Digit]

3. I just don't think a woman could win at this time

Being a woman, I think that men in general are not ready for a woman president. Even though I believe a woman is just as good as a man for this office, I tend to believe that men will not vote for a women, just because she IS a woman.
I think we will need to have a VP as a woman first. She will need to prove she is capable. That and only that, will open doors.

[mahina]

21. So sorry to agree.

Ain't it sad.

Our governors race, where the R' sgot in the gov's office for the first time in 40+ years, taught me a lot.

It's not if a woman can win, it's which woman. Hillary = losing again.
And if we run Mazie Hirono for gov here again we will loose again too.

I'm sick to death of losing! Let's field a winner!

Russ Feingold, Wes Clark , HOWARD DEAN, John Edwards, ABH.

Having said that, I will once again work my heart out for whoever winds the primary. Even Hillary.

[jobycom]

4. AH yes, but look at the candidates for the Republicans

Each of the Democratic leaders have a national stature. The Republican candidates are a mayor, a Senator disliked by half his party and with health problems, and the brother of the current pres--and he's in third.

This looks good for 2008, though of course it is still a ways out. In three years, barring something actually going right for Bush, people will be looking for a change. The first woman president, linked to the last successful presidency, might look really good to a lot of people.

[TheWraith]

6. Frankly, I don't see it.

Everyone seems to project this massive ambition on to Hillary Clinton, but you have to ask: if she really wanted to do more than she is now, would she have done what she's done? Senators don't have a great record on getting elected, and moving to the Northeast doesn't buy her anything new. If she really wanted to be President, wouldn't she have moved back to Arkansas and run for Governor or something?

[Red State Rebel]

8. I've been saying for a while now, she's gonna take it!

Go Hillary!!

[Journeyman]

9. Typical MSM diversionary/divisive tactics. . .

get us talking about speculative numbers, push us to fight each other, meanwhile the real issues of the day go unaddressed. Don't fall for it. There's plenty of time to worry about a candidate for President in '08. We need to keep focused today on what we should do about the on-going tactics of BushCo.

Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof. (Matthew 6:34)

[captain crunch]

10. I believe if she runs, the nomination is hers.

She leads by far in all polls so far.

[intheflow]

11. Libby Dole lead in some polls, too.

Then a johnny-come-lately named Shrub came on the scene and no one ever heard from Libby again.

Frankly, I can't imagine a candidate more likely to fail than Hillary. She is so hated on the right--even on the moderate right--she doesn't seem like a viable candidate to me at all.

[ovidsen]

18. ABH!

As in, anyone but Hillary. Hey, I personally like and respect the woman, but as intheflow notes, she is REVILED by far more Repubs than ever had questions about, ohhh, Kerry or Dean or Edwards or (insert Democratic name here). Democrats can kiss the White House goodbye if Senator Clinton is nominated.

Call me cynical, but I'd rather compromise on a flawed candidate who can win than support a superior candidate who is doomed to fail. My personal goal is making Congress and the White House GOP free zones in 2008. To that end, I'll accept a few blemishes. x(

[intheflow]

19. Sadly, I don't think any woman would win.

There is just too much prejudice against women, even from other women. Hillary has been cast as one kind of stereotyped woman, the super feminist bitch, liberal and thus, "loose." Other kinds of women, say, like Laura Bush, are cast as brainlessly stand-behind-your man submissive wife sterotype. Both types are reviled by huge numbes of citizens. Of course neither of these (or other) women are any stereotype. But until a woman can be a public figure and not a steroetype, I'm afraid my sex is not electable to that high an office.

:cry:

[ovidsen]

24. I hope you are proven wrong

But it may not happen in 2008. Sigh.

[Skip Intro]

14. jeb's only at 10%

have the repukes had enough of the bushes too?

[IChing]

16. who the f@#k cares

This is another runaway (bride) news story, that is 4 years down the road and the road has the 2006 impeachment house sitting 2 years closer to reality.

[MissMarple]

17. It's too early to speculate. This isn't good if she decides to run.

She may be shopworn by 2007.

[cyr330]

20. I'm so sorry

I just won't be able to vote for her. I can't even hold my nose and do it.

[shawn703]

22. Giuliani will never get the Repug nomination

Not while the party is under the thumb of the Religious Right.

[Daphne08]

23. If Hillary Clinton wins the nomination,

it will only prove to me that the Democrats have been manipulated by the right-wing of the Republican Party.

Hillary cannot win in 2008.*

Hillary still carries too much baggage (created by the NeoCon-led attack on Bill in the '90s) in the eyes of the average American voter.

(Flame Away because I don't have 1000 posts and you don't know if you can trust me, but I think many of you here know I'm right... and it does not please me to say this about Hillary Clinton because I personally think she would make a fine President.)


* unless something unforeseen occurs between now and then, and don't ask me what that could be. It's unforeseen. :7

[IndianaGreen]

28. Actually I believe that Hillary can win the 2008 election

The real question is would we want Hillary in the White House? Looking at the GOP alternatives, and at the nearly irreparable damage that 8-years of Bush have done to our society, Hillary may well be the only viable alternative to stop the hemorrhage.

[Robworld]

25. Yay...

http://www.dumdumgoestothecircus.com/

[Robert Oak]

26. Hillary is Republican Lite

It wouldn't surprise me that who is releasing all of the
crud of her "heir apparent" status to be corporations themselves.

She is co-chair of the Indian caucus who has a huge representative
of basically India's interests, versus the US (outsourcing companies
very common)...

then she helped TATA get est. in NY shipping thousands of jobs
to those offshore outsourcing destinations.

This is why Republicans win, democrats have no spine and have
abandoned the American middle class.

Then the vote comes down to "with abortion or without" and "seems like
a nice guy" vote..

To me it doesn't matter if she wins if she was the nominee for
as a member of the corporate party
which one can assume a Republican is a member..

the American middle class will be left in the dust no matter...

Will the Democratic party ever start to represent the people
instead of multinational corporations?

Not with Hillary at the helm.

[LTRS]

29. Can stop acting like Kerry's the man now?

He was a crappy candidate in 04 so it stuns me to read this forum and still find folks that support another run for him. Talk about a loser! Glad to see the general public gets it.

Trouble is, we don't have a decent bench. I don't see us winning the presidency for a long time.

[dkofos]

30. Another stupid useless poll

Let's concentrate on 06 first.

If we don't take back congress in 06 we can kiss our once great country goodbye.

[Democat]

31. Hillary cannot win in 2008!

She has a little better chance than Nader.

[Borgnine]

32. Holy Joe was leading it at this point three years ago.

And not even Joe-mentum could help him.

Hillary is the most recognizable name at this point. That's all. There's a good chance this will change after the midterms.