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truthpusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-05 04:03 PM Original message |
(Next in Ward Churchill Saga) Prof accused of plagiarism |
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orpupilofnature57 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-05 04:07 PM Response to Original message |
1. Smells like professor kkkarl his odor on this story. |
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leftofcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-05 04:13 PM Response to Original message |
2. I could have told them this.............. |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-05 09:22 PM Response to Reply #2 |
20. Gotta link? |
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leftofcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-05 02:17 PM Response to Reply #20 |
95. Naw, but read his work and compare it to some other "real" |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-05 04:51 PM Response to Reply #95 |
116. Ever read his book on COINTELPRO? |
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leftofcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-05 08:36 AM Response to Reply #116 |
152. Yes, but I found some things he didn't research very well.......... |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-05 06:15 PM Response to Reply #152 |
194. Specifics? |
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glitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-05 04:16 PM Response to Original message |
3. They are really gunning for him. Not surprising, he's a very effective |
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Dhalgren (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-05 04:23 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. Right, this is straight out of |
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Viking12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-05 04:34 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. I've been supportive of Churchill for the most part |
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VirginiaDem (574 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-05 04:54 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. It appears to have already been established. The |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-05 09:19 PM Response to Reply #6 |
18. The wingnut press (such as Rocky Mountain News) has been pushing ... |
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seriousstan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-05 04:54 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. So Fay G. Cohen has no right to complain when someone steals her work? |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-05 09:21 PM Response to Reply #7 |
19. If he really plagiarized her work, she has a complaint. Similarly ... |
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seriousstan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-05 10:05 PM Response to Reply #19 |
23. "They are really gunning for him" is also an allegation... |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-05 10:48 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. You don't think the rightwing has launched a systematic attack ... |
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bpilgrim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-05 11:35 PM Response to Reply #23 |
34. r u kidding me? |
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jayfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-05 05:04 PM Response to Reply #3 |
9. He Was On "Real Time"... |
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grumpy old fart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-05 03:58 PM Response to Reply #9 |
184. I saw him also, was really pathetic....might just have been stage fright.. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-15-05 12:36 AM Response to Reply #3 |
196. I saw him on Bill Maher, and I have to say I was unimpressed |
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lynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-05 04:59 PM Response to Original message |
8. Thought this thread was about the artwork he plagiarized - |
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jayfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-05 05:45 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. Well Then We... |
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bpilgrim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-05 11:39 PM Response to Reply #8 |
35. that turned out to be BULLSHIT, too |
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lynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 09:21 AM Response to Reply #35 |
46. HIS INTERPRETATION ?? - |
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bpilgrim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 09:25 AM Response to Reply #46 |
47. yeah, his INTERPRETATION |
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tlcandie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 09:38 AM Response to Reply #47 |
49. Thanks so much for the FEW sane voices within this thread |
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qwghlmian (768 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-05 12:04 PM Response to Reply #47 |
80. See post #78 |
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bpilgrim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-05 01:03 PM Response to Reply #80 |
86. pfft... whatever |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-15-05 12:41 AM Response to Reply #86 |
197. Andy Warhol? The biggest bullshitter the "art world" has ever known!!! |
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Blue to the bone (765 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-05 05:14 PM Response to Reply #8 |
121. That last line of yours is a classic! Thanks. n/t |
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2diagnosis (191 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-05 06:02 PM Response to Original message |
11. Rove setup. |
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bilgewaterbill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-05 08:37 PM Response to Reply #11 |
15. WTF? |
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bpilgrim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-05 11:53 PM Response to Reply #15 |
36. because as RUSH said today the more WARD Churchill's there are the BETTER |
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Blue to the bone (765 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-05 05:22 PM Response to Reply #15 |
123. I KNEW Rove was behind this one too! The man's an animal. n/t |
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daleo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-05 06:10 PM Response to Original message |
12. Hard to believe an academic would just drop this 1997 case. |
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Psephos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-05 08:16 PM Response to Reply #12 |
13. Not hard for me to believe a woman felt threatened by a creepy guy |
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daleo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-05 11:53 PM Response to Reply #13 |
37. Here's what Rockymountainnews said about it, though: |
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Psephos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 12:45 AM Response to Reply #37 |
39. Churchill no longer deserves defending |
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daleo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 12:51 AM Response to Reply #39 |
40. I just wonder if anyone would care but for the 911 essay. |
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Cessna Invesco Palin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 08:47 AM Response to Reply #39 |
44. Well said. |
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salin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 09:13 AM Response to Reply #39 |
45. I have to admit |
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tlcandie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 09:45 AM Response to Reply #39 |
50. Please take time to google his heritage and those |
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bpilgrim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-05 02:54 PM Response to Reply #39 |
102. "Speculation on my part" and the M$MW, of course |
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Spinoza (766 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-05 04:06 PM Response to Reply #39 |
106. Beautifully written. |
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Psephos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-05 12:54 AM Response to Reply #106 |
146. Spinoza... |
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Igel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-05 08:23 PM Response to Original message |
14. Looks like Cohen writes where |
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chlamor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-05 08:48 PM Response to Original message |
16. Geez I Forgot Everything Ward Ever Said |
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bpilgrim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-05 08:55 PM Response to Original message |
17. Churchill is coming to get you! |
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David Dunham (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-05 09:31 PM Response to Reply #17 |
21. I prefer Winston Churchill. Ward is not an intellectually sound scholar |
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bpilgrim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-05 10:42 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. BURN HIM! |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-05 10:51 PM Response to Reply #21 |
28. His book on COINTELPRO is very informative about government ... |
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tlcandie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 09:46 AM Response to Reply #21 |
51. And I love him because of that!!!! WILDMAN!!!! |
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kohodog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-05 10:00 PM Response to Reply #21 |
135. self delete |
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VirginiaDem (574 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-05 09:47 PM Response to Original message |
22. Read the full story--it's an unusual case of plagiarism... |
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bpilgrim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-05 10:47 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. i'd love to see some links to the original and his version |
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izzybeans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-05 11:02 PM Response to Reply #25 |
30. Here's a link to the original's biblio info |
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bpilgrim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-05 11:12 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. Introduction, by Ward Churchill |
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izzybeans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-05 11:25 PM Response to Reply #25 |
32. Still can't find an american publisher for this book. |
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bpilgrim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-05 11:34 PM Response to Reply #32 |
33. thank you |
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VirginiaDem (574 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 07:44 AM Response to Reply #32 |
43. I can't find it either--lots of references to the Danish version but |
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durutti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-05 10:49 PM Response to Original message |
27. I'm reserving judgement. |
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bpilgrim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-05 10:55 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. ditto ;-> |
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daleo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 12:07 AM Response to Original message |
38. The opinion of Dalhousie's legal counsel is just an opinion: |
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Mairead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-05 12:08 PM Response to Reply #38 |
81. Apropos the value of a lawyer's opinion |
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Blue_Tires (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 12:52 AM Response to Original message |
41. jeez...what next? "Churchill found to cause cancer?" |
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FredScuttle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 01:56 AM Response to Reply #41 |
42. Better yet.... |
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Azathoth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 09:32 AM Response to Original message |
48. Churchill is an asshole |
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 09:56 AM Response to Original message |
52. amerikkkans can't stand to be told the truth about their country |
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Moderator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-05 07:16 AM Response to Original message |
53. kick to combine |
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brainshrub (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-05 07:16 AM Response to Original message |
54. Prof accused of plagiarism (Churchill) |
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WannaJumpMyScooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-05 07:16 AM Response to Reply #54 |
55. Just goes to show, they will stop at nothing to get |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-05 07:17 AM Response to Reply #55 |
56. Did you see his "plagiarized" painting? |
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qwghlmian (768 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-05 07:17 AM Response to Reply #56 |
57. You must be kidding |
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brainshrub (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-05 07:17 AM Response to Reply #57 |
58. This isn't about the painting, it's about an essay. |
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qwghlmian (768 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-05 07:17 AM Response to Reply #58 |
60. The post to which I responded |
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bilgewaterbill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-05 07:17 AM Response to Reply #60 |
65. Thanks for the link. |
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Mich Otter (887 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-05 07:17 AM Response to Reply #57 |
66. Ethics of a Republican |
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confludemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-05 06:45 PM Response to Reply #56 |
126. Lynching is all this is |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-05 02:19 PM Response to Reply #56 |
164. Yes, they are. And sometimes even famous ones screw up. |
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bluestateguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-05 07:17 AM Response to Reply #54 |
59. Under these circumstances |
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qwghlmian (768 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-05 07:17 AM Response to Reply #59 |
61. I know what makes it easy to believe those charges - |
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bluestateguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-05 07:17 AM Response to Reply #61 |
63. I disagree with much of what he said |
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brainshrub (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-05 07:17 AM Response to Reply #61 |
64. He's one of the few people who are saying |
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salin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-05 10:05 AM Response to Reply #59 |
74. It appears that some charges of plagerism date far before |
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Wilms (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-05 07:17 AM Response to Reply #54 |
62. Unfortunately, because of the way he handled the subject... |
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creeksneakers2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-05 07:17 AM Response to Reply #54 |
67. He's also been accused of academic fraud |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-05 07:17 AM Response to Reply #54 |
68. Jesus. This is NOT a big deal. I can't believe a web site where people |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-05 01:56 PM Response to Reply #68 |
162. Right, AP. An awful lot of assumptions are being made in |
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Hissyspit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-05 07:17 AM Response to Reply #54 |
69. Hey, everybody. You can't "plagiarize" a painting. |
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AuntiBush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-05 11:48 AM Response to Reply #69 |
76. Agreed! Academica right-wing wants to |
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qwghlmian (768 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-05 12:01 PM Response to Reply #69 |
79. See post #78 |
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not systems (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-05 01:41 PM Response to Reply #79 |
90. Keep on distorting... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-05 07:17 AM Response to Reply #54 |
70. They tried to do the same thing to MLK. |
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daleo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-05 07:17 AM Response to Reply #54 |
71. This is just an opinion of one university's legal counsel |
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Vladimir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-05 07:17 AM Response to Reply #54 |
72. They really are digging deep, aren't they |
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qwghlmian (768 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-05 11:28 AM Response to Reply #72 |
75. Yes, the painting was copied, do you doubt it? |
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Vladimir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-05 11:53 AM Response to Reply #75 |
77. He modified it quite a bit |
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qwghlmian (768 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-05 11:59 AM Response to Reply #77 |
78. You really know nothing about |
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not systems (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-05 12:42 PM Response to Reply #78 |
82. He said he had permission... also the original is a illustration... |
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qwghlmian (768 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-05 12:50 PM Response to Reply #82 |
83. Churchill never once claimed he had permission |
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not systems (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-05 01:33 PM Response to Reply #83 |
87. Or maybe he did... |
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qwghlmian (768 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-05 02:20 PM Response to Reply #87 |
96. Let's see - |
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not systems (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-05 02:38 PM Response to Reply #96 |
98. Prove it...a verbal conversation is enough... |
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qwghlmian (768 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-05 02:48 PM Response to Reply #98 |
101. I hate liars and cheaters |
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not systems (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-05 03:13 PM Response to Reply #101 |
103. I hate people who are judge jury and executioner... |
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qwghlmian (768 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-05 03:16 PM Response to Reply #103 |
104. I saw, with my own eyes, |
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not systems (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-05 03:48 PM Response to Reply #104 |
105. A clairvoyant!! Perhaps you should start a 900 number ... |
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rayofreason (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-05 05:11 PM Response to Reply #105 |
120. Defending Churchill? |
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not systems (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-05 05:19 PM Response to Reply #120 |
122. I saw Russell Means explain why Ward is an Indian leader... |
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confludemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-05 04:13 PM Response to Reply #101 |
107. On the art thing |
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qwghlmian (768 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-05 04:17 PM Response to Reply #107 |
109. Mails apparently had no idea |
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not systems (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-05 04:26 PM Response to Reply #109 |
111. The all seeing psychic strikes again. |
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qwghlmian (768 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-05 04:30 PM Response to Reply #111 |
112. You seem to have psychic powers yourself - |
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not systems (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-05 04:31 PM Response to Reply #112 |
113. Ward said that he did...that is one iota more than you have buddy. n/t |
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qwghlmian (768 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-05 04:34 PM Response to Reply #113 |
114. And of course Ward is such a reliable source |
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not systems (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-05 04:43 PM Response to Reply #114 |
115. More reliable than you who has been PROVEN wrong on a point of fact... |
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qwghlmian (768 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-05 05:05 PM Response to Reply #115 |
118. I told you why I am hostile toward Ward - |
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not systems (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-05 05:11 PM Response to Reply #118 |
119. Yawn. |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-05 02:41 PM Response to Reply #118 |
169. You know him personally? n/t |
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not systems (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-05 03:13 PM Response to Reply #169 |
177. No only through his... |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-05 03:57 PM Response to Reply #177 |
183. Oh, sorry--I meant that question for qwghlmian, but I hit |
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VirginiaDem (574 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-05 07:39 PM Response to Reply #98 |
128. If a verbal conversation that is denied by one party is enough |
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not systems (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-05 08:14 PM Response to Reply #128 |
130. First one party has passed on so is not denying anything... |
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VirginiaDem (574 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-05 11:03 PM Response to Reply #130 |
140. It seems to me they're bringing the case as we speak and |
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Tansy_Gold (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-05 03:54 PM Response to Reply #140 |
181. A better analogy would be "fishing expedition" |
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not systems (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-05 02:14 PM Response to Reply #83 |
94. Owned! n/t |
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Vladimir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-05 12:56 PM Response to Reply #78 |
84. So sue every art student who made |
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qwghlmian (768 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-05 01:00 PM Response to Reply #84 |
85. You continue proving that you know nothing |
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not systems (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-05 01:34 PM Response to Reply #85 |
88. Keep on distorting it suits you. n/t |
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TexasBushwhacker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-05 01:55 PM Response to Reply #85 |
91. Copyright is different for things like paintings |
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qwghlmian (768 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-05 02:22 PM Response to Reply #91 |
97. Wrong. |
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Tansy_Gold (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-05 05:05 PM Response to Reply #97 |
117. In support |
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Psephos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-05 01:15 AM Response to Reply #117 |
147. An information-rich post... |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-05 12:23 PM Response to Reply #75 |
157. If you think that constitutes plagiarism, |
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qwghlmian (768 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-05 01:42 PM Response to Reply #157 |
160. Learning by copying is one thing - it is legal |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-05 01:54 PM Response to Reply #160 |
161. You're making a lot of assumptions. n/t |
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qwghlmian (768 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-05 02:16 PM Response to Reply #161 |
163. I am not making assumptions. I am stating facts. |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-05 02:35 PM Response to Reply #163 |
167. Nope, they aren't. |
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qwghlmian (768 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-05 02:42 PM Response to Reply #167 |
170. janx - read some posts on this thread, and read the |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-05 02:46 PM Response to Reply #170 |
172. There is a heck of a lot more to copyright law |
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qwghlmian (768 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-05 02:56 PM Response to Reply #172 |
174. read - |
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0007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-05 08:08 AM Response to Original message |
73. Amazing absolutely amazing! How the starless trolls all show |
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-05 01:37 PM Response to Reply #73 |
89. Yea, it is pretty noticeable n/t |
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wmills551 (159 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-05 02:11 PM Response to Reply #73 |
92. not worth defending |
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not systems (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-05 02:13 PM Response to Reply #92 |
93. Um... yea ... whatever. n/t |
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Spinoza (766 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-05 04:13 PM Response to Reply #92 |
108. Good point |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-05 04:19 PM Response to Reply #92 |
188. Guckert is a prostitute. Churchill is an academic and a damned |
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glitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-05 02:38 PM Response to Original message |
99. Accused does not mean convicted - we're still in America right? |
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-05 02:43 PM Response to Reply #99 |
100. Thanks to our wonderful first lady Ms. Pickles it is now called Merca |
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Tinoire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-05 04:23 PM Response to Original message |
110. Jesus fucking Christ. Like flies to honey!! n/t |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-05 12:27 PM Response to Reply #110 |
158. YEP. n/t |
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daleo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-05 06:26 PM Response to Original message |
124. Both the Dalhousie prof and the artist Mail's family have recourse to law |
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Tansy_Gold (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-05 06:31 PM Response to Reply #124 |
125. "copyright" |
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daleo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-05 06:52 PM Response to Reply #125 |
127. Point taken, I shouldn't rely on spell check so much. |
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Tansy_Gold (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-05 08:24 PM Response to Reply #127 |
132. Based on what I've seen and based on my experience, |
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bpilgrim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-05 09:51 PM Response to Reply #132 |
134. his interpretation of the original was UNIQUE and he wrote the INTRO for |
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daleo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-05 11:02 PM Response to Reply #132 |
139. Thanks for the obviously well thought out answer |
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bpilgrim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-05 11:06 PM Response to Reply #139 |
141. "claims might become never ending" - ding-ding-ding |
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VirginiaDem (574 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-05 07:51 PM Response to Original message |
129. Truly pathetic the lengths that people are going to |
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not systems (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-05 08:20 PM Response to Reply #129 |
131. Can you point out the sub-thread? |
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bpilgrim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-05 08:47 PM Response to Reply #129 |
133. spread the Rouvin myth to discredit the messenger but not the MSG |
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Tansy_Gold (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-05 10:22 PM Response to Reply #133 |
136. It wasn't an "interpretation." it was a copy |
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not systems (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-05 10:35 PM Response to Reply #136 |
137. Get the torch ma it's a witch. |
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Tansy_Gold (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-05 12:36 AM Response to Reply #137 |
145. Mails didn't have to know anything. |
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not systems (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-05 02:33 AM Response to Reply #145 |
150. It is also quite possible that he did know and... |
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Tansy_Gold (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-05 11:22 AM Response to Reply #150 |
155. rebuttal |
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not systems (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-05 12:12 PM Response to Reply #155 |
156. I agree with some of what you say but... |
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Tansy_Gold (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-05 04:45 PM Response to Reply #156 |
192. what makes you think I'm "happy" about Ward Churchill's |
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not systems (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-05 05:04 PM Response to Reply #192 |
193. alleged |
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bpilgrim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-05 10:37 PM Response to Reply #136 |
138. he didn't only just 'change the color' he changed the PERSPECTIVE as well |
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Tansy_Gold (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-05 11:15 PM Response to Reply #138 |
142. No, he didn't change "the perspective." |
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not systems (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-05 11:26 PM Response to Reply #142 |
143. Well then tack that scalp up on your wall. n/t |
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bpilgrim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-05 11:57 PM Response to Reply #142 |
144. 180 |
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Tansy_Gold (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-05 01:22 AM Response to Reply #144 |
148. If you think a 180-degree flip is a change of "perspective" |
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The Sad Little Pony (206 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-05 02:31 AM Response to Reply #148 |
149. Remember Jeff Koons? |
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Tansy_Gold (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-05 10:12 AM Response to Reply #149 |
154. Thank you, Pony! |
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bpilgrim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-05 07:09 AM Response to Reply #148 |
151. "It wasn't an "interpretation." it was a copy" - oh' really... |
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confludemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-05 09:19 AM Response to Original message |
153. The "fake Indian" thing is disgusting |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-05 02:26 PM Response to Reply #153 |
165. There's nothing like a good old-fashioned lynching to get |
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qwghlmian (768 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-05 02:33 PM Response to Reply #153 |
166. The thing is, it is not an "extremist hack" who says |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-05 02:39 PM Response to Reply #166 |
168. You obviously didn't read confludemocrat's post very well. |
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qwghlmian (768 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-05 02:45 PM Response to Reply #168 |
171. Churchill has never been up front about almost anything - |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-05 02:53 PM Response to Reply #171 |
173. I don't agree with much of what Churchill has to say. |
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Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-05 02:57 PM Response to Reply #171 |
175. Is Churchill the worst liar & cheat around? Or only the most "leftist"? |
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qwghlmian (768 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-05 03:01 PM Response to Reply #175 |
176. Certainly not - |
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Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-05 03:27 PM Response to Reply #176 |
178. I've seen no evidence that Churchill lied & cheated his way into a job... |
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qwghlmian (768 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-05 03:35 PM Response to Reply #178 |
179. Ward Churchill is a professor in a University - in spite of the fact |
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Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-05 03:47 PM Response to Reply #179 |
180. Where's the link for the whole story? |
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qwghlmian (768 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-05 03:56 PM Response to Reply #180 |
182. Here is a link |
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semillama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-05 04:20 PM Response to Reply #182 |
190. Some tribes ARE racist in their application of membership |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-05 04:02 PM Response to Reply #180 |
187. Right-- |
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Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-05 04:20 PM Response to Reply #187 |
189. The link pointed out what you did: He's a good teacher. |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-05 04:44 PM Response to Reply #189 |
191. Many. |
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not systems (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-05 04:00 PM Response to Reply #179 |
186. enough |
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daleo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-15-05 12:31 AM Response to Reply #179 |
195. Professors don't always have doctorates. |
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Massachusetts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-05 12:41 PM Response to Original message |
159. Bottom Line |
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truthpusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-05 03:58 PM Response to Reply #159 |
185. But thought provocation is what 'they' don't want. eom |
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