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jswordy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-05 09:13 AM Original message |
Arizona first state to require citizenship proof to vote |
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forgethell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-05 09:18 AM Response to Original message |
1. Well, |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-05 09:20 AM Response to Reply #1 |
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forgethell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-05 10:54 AM Response to Reply #3 |
26. Fraud is fraud. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-05 10:20 AM Response to Reply #1 |
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forgethell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-05 10:55 AM Response to Reply #17 |
27. My candiate was |
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tom_paine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-05 12:10 PM Response to Reply #27 |
44. Of course. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-05 12:19 PM Response to Reply #44 |
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Wisc Badger (317 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-05 11:20 AM Response to Reply #17 |
33. At the risk of getting myself nailed I am in favor |
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tom_paine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-05 12:15 PM Response to Reply #33 |
45. As I said, I am not condoning the practice nor turning a blind eye |
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forgethell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-05 12:22 PM Response to Reply #45 |
47. Yes you are. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-05 12:48 PM Response to Reply #47 |
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Langis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-05 02:36 PM Response to Reply #47 |
64. I agree that we should prioritize things a little better |
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easyway (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-05 08:58 PM Response to Reply #45 |
112. voting early, often, and straight |
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LisaM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-05 03:40 PM Response to Reply #33 |
71. Then picture IDs need to be FREE. |
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Wisc Badger (317 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-05 03:58 PM Response to Reply #71 |
72. As far as I know a straight State ID card in Wisconsin is Free |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-05 09:18 AM Response to Original message |
2. Don't know about this state... |
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City Lights (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-05 10:31 AM Response to Reply #2 |
21. I know about this state. |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-05 01:39 PM Response to Reply #21 |
54. Well I do too, but I'm not making admissions, just wondering. |
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Sal316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-05 09:41 AM Response to Original message |
4. this isn't about ensuring there's no fraud.... |
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AliciaKeyedUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-05 09:42 AM Response to Reply #4 |
5. How is this intimidating? |
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Sal316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-05 10:16 AM Response to Reply #5 |
14. Works the same as anywhere else...... |
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Wisc Badger (317 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-05 11:23 AM Response to Reply #14 |
34. It works the other way also |
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DownNotOut (109 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-05 07:41 PM Response to Reply #14 |
98. Again, either your a citizen |
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Mystified (141 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-05 01:37 PM Response to Reply #5 |
152. Don't you know, Alicia? |
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unblock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-05 09:52 AM Response to Reply #4 |
6. they will work this list like florida works felon disenfranchisement |
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BraSize45 (9 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-05 10:16 AM Response to Reply #6 |
15. WTF? |
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tom_paine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-05 10:29 AM Response to Reply #15 |
20. Nope... like Dunbar or Jefferson |
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jswordy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-05 09:58 AM Response to Reply #4 |
7. That's what I thought... |
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Desertrose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-05 10:01 AM Response to Reply #4 |
9. big part of the fraud was the way they worded prop 200 |
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jswordy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-05 10:08 AM Response to Reply #9 |
12. Links |
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Desertrose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-05 11:41 AM Response to Reply #12 |
39. more "big brother" mentality ..... |
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primavera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-05 11:35 AM Response to Reply #12 |
143. A lot more than checking voters indeed |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-05 11:00 AM Response to Reply #4 |
28. Alot of US citizens will not vote now becuase registration is too |
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Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-05 09:58 AM Response to Original message |
8. Since when is a driver's license proof of citizenship? |
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trogdor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-05 11:11 AM Response to Reply #8 |
31. Apparently, there is authentication with DL's issued after 1996. |
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Jester_11218 (914 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-05 10:03 AM Response to Original message |
10. Authenticate the vote too! |
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alarimer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-05 07:19 PM Response to Reply #10 |
93. yes |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-05 10:06 AM Response to Original message |
11. I may get flamed, but I really don't have a problem with this |
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jswordy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-05 10:12 AM Response to Reply #11 |
13. Swap your word "passport" for "national identity card" and... |
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candle_bright (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-05 10:24 AM Response to Reply #13 |
19. What freedoms are you giving up |
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BrendaStarr (491 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-05 10:47 AM Response to Reply #19 |
24. If you're a Republican you will still be able to vote more than once |
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Wisc Badger (317 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-05 11:30 AM Response to Reply #24 |
37. What you describe is the way Democrat leaning orgnizations |
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BraSize45 (9 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-05 10:20 AM Response to Reply #11 |
16. Amnesty? |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-05 01:24 AM Response to Reply #16 |
116. "Amnesty" from the COST of them.. They are pretty pricey these days |
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atreides1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-05 10:23 AM Response to Reply #11 |
18. Sieg Heil To You Too |
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Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-05 10:46 AM Response to Reply #18 |
23. Those of us with a melanin deficiency won't be hassled. |
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One_Life_To_Give (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-05 04:11 PM Response to Reply #11 |
74. Cost of Background check for Passport? |
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WilmywoodNCparalegal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-05 10:37 AM Response to Original message |
22. FYI... |
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BrendaStarr (491 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-05 10:51 AM Response to Reply #22 |
25. So if you were born here and were constantly asked for proof |
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candle_bright (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-05 11:01 AM Response to Reply #25 |
29. Constantly asked for proof? |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-05 11:05 AM Response to Reply #22 |
30. The problem is that in the US the idea is that you want to make |
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candle_bright (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-05 11:25 AM Response to Reply #30 |
35. :::scratching my head::: |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-05 11:41 AM Response to Reply #35 |
40. You got me scratching my head. |
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alarimer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-05 07:24 PM Original message |
Yes and how many illegal aliens vote anyway? |
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True_Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-05 09:26 PM Response to Original message |
114. I am curious to know what the percentage is |
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Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-05 11:51 AM Response to Reply #35 |
42. The proposal is not about lowering or eradicating standards. |
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candle_bright (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-05 12:09 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. I disagree |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-05 01:02 PM Response to Reply #43 |
52. If the difference between requiring a registrant to simply |
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candle_bright (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-05 01:12 PM Response to Reply #52 |
53. You are assuming |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-05 01:46 PM Response to Reply #53 |
56. And you're assuming that everyone entitled to vote has proof of |
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candle_bright (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-05 01:54 PM Response to Reply #56 |
59. Good grief |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-05 04:32 PM Response to Reply #59 |
76. Driving is a privilege. Voting is a core right in a democracy. |
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candle_bright (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-05 05:40 PM Response to Reply #76 |
83. How do you know |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-05 06:38 PM Response to Reply #83 |
85. See post 84. |
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forgethell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-05 03:29 PM Response to Reply #56 |
67. If they are not |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-05 04:36 PM Response to Reply #67 |
77. A person who registers to vote outside a supermarket is not an |
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forgethell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-05 05:02 PM Response to Reply #77 |
79. To make sure they're eligible. |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-05 06:37 PM Response to Reply #79 |
84. I have had to register to vote several times, and the threat of being |
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candle_bright (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-05 06:52 PM Response to Reply #84 |
87. Um... |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-05 07:10 PM Response to Reply #87 |
88. I'm just telling you what my experience was. |
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candle_bright (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-05 07:28 PM Response to Reply #88 |
95. I think I see where we differ |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-05 07:34 PM Response to Reply #95 |
97. I think the difference is between conservative values and progressive... |
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candle_bright (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-05 07:46 PM Response to Reply #97 |
100. Values |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-05 07:55 PM Response to Reply #100 |
103. If your priority is obedience to law and order to a degree that prevents |
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candle_bright (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-05 08:03 PM Response to Reply #103 |
104. I guess we are different |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-05 08:16 PM Response to Reply #104 |
107. Not a Q of which laws to enforce. It's a Q of HOW to enforce the law. |
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candle_bright (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-05 08:27 PM Response to Reply #107 |
108. Okay |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-05 07:10 PM Response to Reply #87 |
89. I'm just telling you what my experience was. |
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forgethell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-05 07:14 PM Response to Reply #84 |
91. Well, you are |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-05 07:24 PM Response to Reply #91 |
94. The people stuffing the ballot box are not illegal aliens. |
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forgethell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-05 03:23 PM Response to Reply #52 |
66. To make sure they're legal? |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-05 04:39 PM Response to Reply #66 |
78. Why isn't swearing and subjecting yourself to criminal prosecution... |
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forgethell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-05 05:04 PM Response to Reply #78 |
80. How much would I scream? |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-05 05:16 PM Response to Reply #80 |
82. I just don't understand some people's values. |
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forgethell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-05 07:17 PM Response to Reply #82 |
92. No one eligible |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-05 07:32 PM Response to Reply #92 |
96. How many lost eligible voters are you willing to tolerate in order |
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forgethell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-05 08:06 PM Response to Reply #96 |
105. How many ineligible voters |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-05 08:36 PM Response to Reply #105 |
109. I know from experience. I know that many of the people I've registered |
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forgethell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-05 08:59 AM Response to Reply #109 |
122. Where I live, |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-05 09:42 AM Response to Reply #122 |
124. I've always registered by mail, and if I everyone had to reg |
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forgethell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-05 10:07 AM Response to Reply #124 |
127. "There's no evidence |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-05 10:19 AM Response to Reply #127 |
129. Since the Civil Rights Act '64, the attitude in American politics |
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forgethell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-05 10:53 AM Response to Reply #129 |
136. Fair enough. |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-05 11:09 AM Response to Reply #136 |
138. Read the article above. Read what she has to bring with her the first |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-05 07:46 PM Response to Reply #92 |
101. And by the way, when you're calculating your tolerance level... |
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forgethell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-05 08:07 PM Response to Reply #101 |
106. People also |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-05 08:39 PM Response to Reply #106 |
110. Within Europe you no longer need a passport to cross borders. |
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forgethell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-05 08:46 AM Response to Reply #110 |
121. Is it? |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-05 09:33 AM Response to Reply #121 |
123. A British citizen can vote in EU elections in France... |
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forgethell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-05 10:10 AM Response to Reply #123 |
128. Well, that's interesting |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-05 10:25 AM Response to Reply #128 |
130. EU cititzens can vote in the municipal and EU elections where they |
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forgethell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-05 10:50 AM Response to Reply #130 |
134. And American citizens |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-05 10:58 AM Response to Reply #134 |
137. An American citizen with an Irish grandparent can get an Irish passport |
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forgethell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-05 11:12 AM Response to Reply #137 |
139. The American citizen with |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-05 11:28 AM Response to Reply #139 |
141. If you read the article above, there's a court challenge on the AZ rule |
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forgethell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-05 11:45 AM Response to Reply #141 |
144. I didn't say the courts |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-05 11:54 AM Response to Reply #144 |
146. I think that if the voters were informed by something closer to this |
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primavera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-05 11:49 AM Response to Reply #22 |
145. Citation, please? |
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umass1993 (302 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-05 11:18 AM Response to Original message |
32. Makes sense to me........ |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-05 01:50 PM Response to Reply #32 |
58. Be able to drive shouldn't be a requirement for voting. |
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Bono71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-05 03:35 PM Response to Reply #58 |
68. So get a passport. n/t |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-05 07:12 PM Response to Reply #68 |
90. Easy to say if you're a guy skirting cap gains tax thanks to sec 1031 |
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Bono71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-05 12:10 PM Response to Reply #90 |
149. Fine...don't get a passport or a dl..get a state id card. The right |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-05 06:47 PM Response to Reply #149 |
153. I agree. But I would define as an illegitimate election one that made it |
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umass1993 (302 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-05 11:25 AM Response to Original message |
36. Frankly, it's issues like this ... |
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Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-05 11:48 AM Response to Reply #36 |
41. No, the FIRST step towards honest elections is getting rid of Diebold |
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Wisc Badger (317 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-05 11:33 AM Response to Original message |
38. You need an ID card to rent videos at Blockbuster |
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Bono71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-05 03:36 PM Response to Reply #38 |
69. Agree 100%. n/t |
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KamaAina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-05 12:55 PM Response to Original message |
50. There are homeless people in Arizona, right? |
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AliciaKeyedUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-05 01:43 PM Response to Reply #50 |
55. Of course they are people |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-05 01:48 PM Response to Reply #55 |
57. You do understand that when a homeless person registers as |
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Virginia Dem (41 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-05 01:55 PM Response to Reply #55 |
60. I don't have a problem with this either |
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Southern Dem 2005 (312 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-05 02:03 PM Response to Reply #60 |
61. Why would anyone consider this a problem? |
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primavera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-05 12:03 PM Response to Reply #61 |
148. Read the fine print |
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Bono71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-05 12:27 PM Response to Reply #148 |
150. It's overbroad...didn't know that, thanks. n/t |
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primavera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-05 12:45 PM Response to Reply #150 |
151. The architects of the initiative didn't want you to know that |
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KamaAina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-05 02:09 PM Response to Reply #55 |
62. Yes, they're people. Now, how do they register and vote in AZ |
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Southern Dem 2005 (312 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-05 02:13 PM Response to Reply #62 |
63. I haven't been too involved in this discussion |
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AliciaKeyedUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-05 03:10 PM Response to Reply #62 |
65. If you have no ID |
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Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-05 04:08 PM Response to Reply #65 |
73. Why not "First Step Diebold"? |
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AliciaKeyedUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-05 05:13 PM Response to Reply #73 |
81. This is already moving ahead |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-05 11:57 AM Response to Reply #81 |
147. This is moving backwards. It's reducing the the numer of LEGAL |
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Bono71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-05 03:36 PM Response to Reply #50 |
70. Birth certificate? n/t |
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guajira (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-05 04:15 PM Response to Original message |
75. I Worked at the Polls in Miami and Requiring Proof of Citizenship |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-05 06:43 PM Response to Reply #75 |
86. What do you think those people gain that's worth more than the risk |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-05 07:43 PM Response to Reply #86 |
99. A lot of people who are not legally entitled to vote do it anyway |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-05 07:49 PM Response to Reply #99 |
102. US citizen ex-cons would not be captured by this law. |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-05 08:05 AM Response to Reply #102 |
117. 35 foreign citizens voted in Harris County Texas last year |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-05 10:37 AM Response to Reply #117 |
132. Sounds like they're able to catch them, and that they have |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-28-05 08:22 AM Response to Reply #132 |
154. Catching them after the fact won't help in a close election |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-05 08:09 AM Response to Reply #102 |
118. Four non-citizens voted in Milwaukee in 2000 |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-05 08:33 AM Response to Reply #102 |
119. 748 non-citizens voted in California in 1996 |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-05 10:05 AM Response to Reply #119 |
126. The number was probably less than that... |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-05 10:37 AM Response to Reply #126 |
133. People who really want to vote will pony up the ID |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-05 10:52 AM Response to Reply #133 |
135. Many people move frequently. They put registering to vote |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-28-05 08:24 AM Response to Reply #135 |
155. It is attidudes like that that give credence to GOP claims |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-28-05 01:41 PM Response to Reply #155 |
157. It's arguments like yours that give credence to progressives claims that |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-29-05 05:56 PM Response to Reply #157 |
158. Every time someone votes illegally it cancels out |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-30-05 11:42 AM Response to Reply #158 |
159. Would it make sense for me to argue that every time an illegal voter |
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Rockerdem (706 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-05 08:41 PM Response to Original message |
111. Weve opened the borders unofficially. Why dont we make it official? |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-05 08:59 PM Response to Reply #111 |
113. At the very least, let's not use them as an excuse to make |
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lynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-05 10:05 PM Response to Original message |
115. Seems reasonable enough - |
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Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-05 08:42 AM Response to Reply #115 |
120. Thanks for telling "us" what to do. |
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lynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-05 09:49 AM Response to Reply #120 |
125. I didn't tell anyone what to do - |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-05 10:34 AM Response to Reply #125 |
131. Do we want to use methods that dramatically reduce the participation |
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Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-05 11:17 AM Response to Reply #131 |
140. It depends on which "we" you're talking about. |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-05 11:29 AM Response to Reply #140 |
142. Yep. I meant the progressive "we", and the "we" who shares my |
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umass1993 (302 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-28-05 11:14 AM Response to Reply #125 |
156. Don't listen to Bridget |
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