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truthpusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 06:39 PM Original message |
AP: Famous Atheist (Antony Flew) Now Believes in God |
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PsychoDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 06:41 PM Response to Original message |
1. Shows his misconception... |
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truthpusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 06:43 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. How? |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 07:41 PM Response to Reply #4 |
45. At DU there are many that fear GOD and proclaim they are an Atheist |
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WillParkinson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 08:53 PM Response to Reply #45 |
72. Really now? |
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VegasWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 09:54 PM Response to Reply #72 |
88. Exactly, I've never called them stupid. Their belief is just |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 11:02 PM Response to Reply #88 |
108. nothing insulting there |
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VegasWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 11:55 PM Response to Reply #108 |
117. I've just revised my opinion re stupidity. n/t |
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WillParkinson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 09:37 AM Response to Reply #108 |
138. Gee, thanks Ches... |
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renaissanceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 02:11 PM Response to Reply #108 |
207. And God is right in front of us in black and white? |
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Just Me (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 09:54 PM Response to Reply #45 |
87. Being a deist allows you to respect a variety of belief systems,... |
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JohnOneillsMemory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 10:26 PM Response to Reply #45 |
99. Ah, yes. 'Pre-emptive faith.' Just in case... |
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Arianrhod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 03:41 AM Response to Reply #45 |
124. Interesting that he comes by this new-found belief |
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PsychoDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 07:38 AM Response to Reply #124 |
134. All of life is a spiritual jorney. |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 09:40 AM Response to Reply #45 |
140. way to generalize. n/t |
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Ediacara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 11:48 AM Response to Reply #45 |
171. Wow, talk about calling people stupid... |
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PsychoDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 07:34 AM Response to Reply #4 |
132. concept of God in Islam |
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truthpusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 09:53 PM Response to Reply #1 |
86. Flew info link |
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BadGimp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 06:42 PM Response to Original message |
2. Senile dimentia? |
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Tweed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 06:45 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. How kind of you to knock on all the non atheists here |
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seriousstan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 06:54 PM Response to Reply #6 |
10. Many people don't understand how poorly we have been served |
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JohnOneillsMemory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 07:16 PM Response to Reply #10 |
28. Woody Guthrie's take on religion from his son Arlo the other night- |
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truthpusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 07:29 PM Response to Reply #28 |
34. Great story but don't you mean Agnosticism? |
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seriousstan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 07:31 PM Response to Reply #28 |
37. I think the example you gave would lean toward agnostic. |
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JohnOneillsMemory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 08:15 PM Response to Reply #37 |
65. I think this says that 'agnostic' and 'atheist' are false distinctions. |
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54anickel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 09:06 PM Response to Reply #28 |
76. Ellis Paul put music to the lyrics of God's Promise written by Woody |
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demigoddess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 07:46 PM Response to Reply #28 |
277. thats what I like to hear. |
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Reverend Smoothfield (74 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 07:32 PM Response to Reply #10 |
40. religious ideas are still ideas |
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truthpusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 07:41 PM Response to Reply #40 |
46. I knew it was those damned Martians all along!!! |
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VegasWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 07:46 PM Response to Reply #40 |
51. Sir, I praise you for your mockery and believe that you may be |
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seriousstan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 07:47 PM Response to Reply #40 |
52. "God was not actively involved in people's lives" |
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Reverend Smoothfield (74 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 08:23 PM Response to Reply #52 |
66. let me ask you this |
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seriousstan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 08:51 PM Response to Reply #66 |
70. Economics and religion are vastly different. |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 10:51 PM Response to Reply #70 |
105. "How about a little fire, Scarecrow?" |
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Stuckinthebush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 11:36 AM Response to Reply #70 |
166. I guess I would demean the wife |
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Reverend Smoothfield (74 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 12:22 PM Response to Reply #166 |
178. and what if you're pretty sure the wife doesn't exist? |
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Stuckinthebush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 01:08 PM Response to Reply #178 |
197. We would call that crazy |
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Stunster (984 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 03:02 PM Response to Reply #40 |
219. Religion and experience |
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daleo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 04:50 PM Response to Reply #219 |
247. Interesting post |
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Merlin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 05:31 PM Response to Reply #219 |
253. Jesus was just a convenient man to make a legend of. |
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truthpusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 07:57 PM Response to Reply #253 |
279. I agree, I think that the resurrection really has no practical purpose.. |
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truthpusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 08:09 PM Response to Reply #219 |
281. Great Story... |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 12:44 PM Response to Reply #6 |
189. "All the non atheists" haven't been atheists their entire lives. Nice try. |
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Tweed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 03:04 PM Response to Reply #189 |
221. Excuse me? |
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Cronus Protagonist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 07:37 AM Response to Reply #2 |
133. On a related note, God now recognises the existence of Her new convert |
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Carl Brennan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 03:07 PM Response to Reply #2 |
222. Oh, everybody keeps stealing my line. |
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ayeshahaqqiqa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 06:43 PM Response to Original message |
3. Concepts |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 06:44 PM Response to Original message |
5. Ha ha hey now wait a minute! |
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Cronus Protagonist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 07:04 PM Response to Reply #5 |
14. How many militant atheists are there? |
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Trajan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 06:47 PM Response to Original message |
7. The 'origin of life' .... |
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truthpusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 06:52 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. I am not sure how I feel about the God idea... |
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Trajan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 07:10 PM Response to Reply #9 |
20. The essence of the 'ontological argument' .... |
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ilovenicepeople (883 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 02:23 PM Response to Reply #9 |
212. I always concidered myself an aethiest,but it seems like there is a satan |
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truthpusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 08:16 PM Response to Reply #212 |
283. I think mean people are Satan... |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 06:59 PM Response to Reply #7 |
11. no evidence that the 'stuff' of the universe had ever NOT existed?? |
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Trajan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 07:16 PM Response to Reply #11 |
26. The Big Bang Event is a re-organizational event .... |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 07:32 PM Response to Reply #26 |
39. I agree - and if the pulsating Universe was "best science" you'd be |
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truthpusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 07:43 PM Response to Reply #39 |
48. I think this is Antony Flew's 'best current science'. |
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Trajan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 12:23 PM Response to Reply #39 |
179. This answer is much like .... |
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Stunster (984 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 03:29 PM Response to Reply #179 |
227. It's not merely the existence of the universe |
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truthpusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 08:29 PM Response to Reply #227 |
286. Theism definitely puts a nice bow on it all, doesn't it! |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 09:45 PM Response to Reply #227 |
294. But if your argument for theism is that it is analogous to ourselves |
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Stunster (984 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-04 12:29 AM Response to Reply #294 |
315. Not really |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-04 07:49 AM Response to Reply #315 |
333. No, you didn't understand my objection |
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Stunster (984 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-04 09:42 AM Response to Reply #333 |
334. As a matter of fact |
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truthpusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-04 12:57 AM Response to Reply #294 |
316. This is where the craziness kicks in.. |
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Spinzonner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 07:34 PM Response to Reply #26 |
41. There is no 'before' time zero |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 07:42 PM Response to Reply #41 |
47. true |
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axordil (48 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 11:37 AM Response to Reply #47 |
167. A common problem |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 05:05 PM Response to Reply #167 |
250. Metaphysical questions are still permitted, I believe! |
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Trajan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 11:59 AM Response to Reply #41 |
173. Then considerations of a pre-existent entity, ... |
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PsychoDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 02:10 PM Response to Reply #173 |
206. The argument only works... |
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Stunster (984 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 03:50 PM Response to Reply #173 |
231. Self-evident materiality |
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Stunster (984 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 03:51 PM Response to Reply #231 |
232. OOOooops! |
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Trajan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 06:42 PM Response to Reply #231 |
272. I have some serious problems with Chalmers ... |
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Stunster (984 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 07:48 PM Response to Reply #272 |
278. Hmmmm.... |
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daleo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 07:13 PM Response to Reply #7 |
24. A star is fairly simple really |
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Trajan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 07:29 PM Response to Reply #24 |
35. well ... as a system ... |
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daleo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 07:38 PM Response to Reply #35 |
43. But complexity relates to system, not number |
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jwcomer (177 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 02:11 PM Response to Reply #43 |
208. Complexity is just a word with no scientific meaning. |
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daleo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 05:15 PM Response to Reply #208 |
252. Degrees of freedom is perhaps the wrong choice of words |
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Trajan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 07:35 PM Response to Reply #43 |
276. If one takes a star ... |
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daleo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-04 01:48 AM Response to Reply #276 |
324. The interaction of a star with a moon will create greater complexity |
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truthpusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 07:46 PM Response to Reply #35 |
50. Very well put. |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 08:47 PM Response to Reply #7 |
69. Organization Is A Kind Of Intelligence. You Mistakenly Suppose |
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VegasWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 09:41 PM Response to Reply #69 |
79. Not necessarily, another viewpoint is that "intelligence", ours, |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 11:51 AM Response to Reply #79 |
172. Chaos Alone Would Not Enable Evolution, The Ability To Measure Or |
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VegasWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 12:52 PM Response to Reply #172 |
192. Amazing, you completely misread my post. n/t |
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UberSG-1Fan (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 01:11 AM Response to Reply #7 |
119. organized by.... |
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Arianrhod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 04:17 AM Response to Reply #119 |
125. Your argument is two centuries old, refuted endlessly by |
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Stunster (984 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 04:05 PM Response to Reply #125 |
236. I think you're wrong |
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Arianrhod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-04 03:18 AM Response to Reply #236 |
331. I don't see how this makes me wrong. |
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VegasWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 06:49 PM Response to Original message |
8. So his thesis is that the universe is so complex, there must be |
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truthpusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 07:08 PM Response to Reply #8 |
18. I have a question... |
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VegasWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 07:44 PM Response to Reply #18 |
49. No, and because we cannot explain complexity doesn't prove that god does. |
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Barrett808 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 07:08 PM Response to Reply #8 |
19. Sounds like the old argument from design |
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VegasWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 07:49 PM Response to Reply #19 |
53. Huh? What we don't understand has to be true? Really? |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 08:56 PM Response to Reply #8 |
73. Complexity Demands An Innate Capacity For Organization. That Is An |
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VegasWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 09:36 PM Response to Reply #73 |
78. Where does complexity demand an innate capacity for organization. |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 11:43 AM Response to Reply #78 |
170. Why Do You Presume That "Intelligence" Is The Perogative Of Seperate |
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VegasWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 12:55 PM Response to Reply #170 |
193. You really have a hard time reading other's posts. I said I don't |
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bullimiami (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 07:02 PM Response to Original message |
12. Just what I was thinking. Senility....or mad cow......nt |
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JohnOneillsMemory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 07:03 PM Response to Original message |
13. Psy-ops Christmas Season or Advancing the Theocracy in the Media... |
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truthpusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 07:16 PM Response to Reply #13 |
27. The Beatitudes can kick the Shit out of any of the lameness being... |
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JohnOneillsMemory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 07:22 PM Response to Reply #27 |
30. LOL. Yeah, Christ kicks some serious ass! |
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VegasWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 07:50 PM Response to Reply #27 |
54. that's because we all know that the corporations own the earth!n/t |
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reprobate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 01:17 PM Response to Reply #27 |
201. Hey, my god can kick your god's ass. |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 07:58 PM Response to Reply #13 |
60. Sounds like you believe this story fits into something so complex... |
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JohnOneillsMemory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 11:06 PM Response to Reply #60 |
109. I think all the press about religion and Christmas is a weaponization |
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shrike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 07:06 PM Response to Original message |
15. Many indigenous peoples were deists |
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karlrschneider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 07:07 PM Response to Original message |
16. At 81, sounds like Pascal's wager... |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 07:12 PM Response to Reply #16 |
22. "more or less" |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 07:55 PM Response to Reply #16 |
58. Until you look at the facts. |
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VegasWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 08:10 PM Response to Reply #16 |
64. True! n/t |
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Liberal Veteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 07:07 PM Response to Original message |
17. Well, I for one am happy that he has come to acknowledge... |
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shrike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 07:10 PM Response to Reply #17 |
21. Oh come on, guys |
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Liberal Veteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 07:14 PM Response to Reply #21 |
25. Given that this story qualifies as "news"..... |
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truthpusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 07:23 PM Response to Reply #25 |
31. At least as newsworthy as a Republican/Democrat switching parties. |
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shrike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 10:00 PM Response to Reply #25 |
89. Flew was asked a question and he answered it |
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Sideways (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 06:49 AM Response to Reply #89 |
131. Hey At Least He Isn't Wearing It On His Epaulets Ala W |
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shrike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 12:37 PM Response to Reply #131 |
185. Thank God (or god) for that |
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Tacos al Carbon (326 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 08:27 PM Response to Reply #21 |
285. And he has a perfect right |
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shrike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 10:29 PM Response to Reply #285 |
296. Quite true (nt) |
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MindPilot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 07:12 PM Response to Original message |
23. probably about as accurate as the stories |
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shrike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 10:01 PM Response to Reply #23 |
90. There are no stories of Sagan's deathbed conversion |
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hatrack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 10:13 AM Response to Reply #90 |
149. He didn't convert - not to worry |
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MrPrax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 07:19 PM Response to Original message |
29. So confronted by a mystery...? |
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truthpusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 07:25 PM Response to Reply #29 |
33. That would be sad. |
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VegasWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 07:52 PM Response to Reply #29 |
55. That's always worked. No one really understands god works well also. n/t |
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Reverend Smoothfield (74 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 07:25 PM Response to Original message |
32. forgive me for pulling rank |
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Gregorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 07:30 PM Response to Reply #32 |
36. Yes. And he died for your credit card sins |
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VegasWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 07:54 PM Response to Reply #32 |
57. Absurd isn't it? n/t |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 08:53 PM Response to Reply #32 |
71. Once Again, You Mistakenly Say Intelligent "Creator" & Imply A Person |
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Reverend Smoothfield (74 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 09:31 PM Response to Reply #71 |
77. don't follow |
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VegasWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 09:46 PM Response to Reply #71 |
81. I beileve that the good reverend is implying a giant turtle that |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 06:22 AM Response to Reply #71 |
130. What is Reality, as opposed to reality? |
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Tight_rope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 04:22 AM Response to Reply #32 |
128. That's Deep...Welcome to DU Reverend Smoothfield ! |
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pop goes the weasel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 07:32 PM Response to Original message |
38. so now |
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Bouncy Ball (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 07:36 PM Response to Original message |
42. I don't see what the big deal is about this. |
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MatrixEscape (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 07:39 PM Response to Original message |
44. The problem with Atheism |
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truthpusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 07:55 PM Response to Reply #44 |
59. The difference is very subtle. |
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VegasWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 08:00 PM Response to Reply #44 |
61. Funny, I thought that way for a long time. I even wrote a paper |
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truthpusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 08:05 PM Response to Reply #61 |
63. You say gut instincts? what do you mean by that? |
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VegasWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 09:49 PM Response to Reply #63 |
83. What do you think gut instincts mean?n/t |
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truthpusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 11:14 AM Response to Reply #83 |
159. Where do the gut instincts come from? |
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VegasWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 01:02 PM Response to Reply #159 |
196. Mars, that's why tinfoil is so necessary. Seriously, they are just |
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truthpusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 02:03 PM Response to Reply #196 |
204. It sounded more like a 6th sense sort of thing, that's why I ask. |
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MatrixEscape (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 08:36 PM Response to Reply #61 |
67. I see ... |
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VegasWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 10:05 PM Response to Reply #67 |
92. Yes, it is true that all observations are subjective. I think it |
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truthpusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 10:11 PM Response to Reply #92 |
95. You sound like Isabelle Huppert in I Heart Huckabees... |
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VegasWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 10:17 PM Response to Reply #95 |
96. LOL! Thank's I guess! n/t |
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Malikshah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 07:52 PM Response to Original message |
56. What is with ABC News these days? |
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truthpusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 08:01 PM Response to Reply #56 |
62. How is this scary? |
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Malikshah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 10:48 PM Response to Reply #62 |
103. When you add up the stories I listed |
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truthpusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 11:16 PM Response to Reply #103 |
114. I definitely believe that there is a pattern... |
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arwalden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 08:42 PM Response to Original message |
68. "At Age 81"... it sounds like he knows the end is near and he's just... |
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BattyDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 08:57 PM Response to Original message |
74. We all know what this is about ... |
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VegasWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 09:52 PM Response to Reply #74 |
85. Ha, i always thought that if there really were a god, he would punish |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 10:07 PM Response to Reply #74 |
94. Nah, I know different. |
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Politicub (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 10:57 PM Response to Reply #94 |
107. What a loaded word |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 11:09 PM Response to Reply #107 |
110. Ha ha wait a second... |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 11:11 PM Response to Reply #74 |
112. or maybe he finally grew up |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 08:58 PM Response to Original message |
75. Pascal's wager become much more attractive |
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daleo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 09:44 PM Response to Original message |
80. I wonder how many people here have actually read Anthony Flew |
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truthpusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 09:52 PM Response to Reply #80 |
84. Here's a link to some Flew info and biography. |
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daleo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 10:05 PM Response to Reply #84 |
93. Thanks, that is a pretty decent c.v. |
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TwilightZone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 09:46 PM Response to Original message |
82. To paraphrase Bill Cosby, |
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superconnected (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 10:01 PM Response to Original message |
91. let him believe anything he wants to believe |
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private_ryan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 10:24 PM Response to Original message |
97. he makes sense |
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DrWeird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 10:32 PM Response to Reply #97 |
100. Not very good logic. |
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private_ryan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 10:34 PM Response to Reply #100 |
101. maybe he was just there |
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lazarus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 03:10 AM Response to Reply #101 |
121. maybe the universe was just there |
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Stuckinthebush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 02:18 PM Response to Reply #121 |
209. Why go inserting god into it? |
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shrike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 10:26 PM Response to Original message |
98. Finally got around to reading the whole article. The atheists on this |
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VegasWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 10:40 PM Response to Reply #98 |
102. An atheist? On this board? Noo! n/t |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 11:25 PM Response to Reply #98 |
115. Come on, you've got to admit... |
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truthpusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 08:35 PM Response to Reply #115 |
289. It is pointless to an end... |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 10:50 PM Response to Original message |
104. and he stil doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about |
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Niche (687 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 10:55 PM Response to Original message |
106. ... a being...Intelligence and purpose... |
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Merlin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 11:11 PM Response to Original message |
111. He is right. Those who mock prove their own ignorance. |
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lazarus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 03:10 AM Response to Reply #111 |
120. Umm. a few comments |
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Merlin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 09:35 AM Response to Reply #120 |
137. Lazarus! Come out from thy cave! I command thee! |
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jwcomer (177 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 02:53 PM Response to Reply #137 |
217. we all recycle arguments. |
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lazarus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 06:05 PM Response to Reply #137 |
262. Since some of your arguments |
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Raster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 11:13 PM Response to Original message |
113. he must be dying and worried his miserable little life has no worth. |
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shrike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 12:11 PM Response to Reply #113 |
176. He hasn't gotten religion |
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greenohio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 11:36 PM Response to Original message |
116. We have a well known athiest who now prescribes to intelligent design. |
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Merlin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 09:39 AM Response to Reply #116 |
139. He does NOT "prescribe" to intelligent design. Or subscribe either. |
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Occulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 12:48 AM Response to Original message |
118. Begging his and every other believer's pardon, but |
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currentsupply (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 03:27 AM Response to Reply #118 |
123. this scientist's ego so big |
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PATRICK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 08:51 AM Response to Reply #123 |
135. As a Christian I also am amused |
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Merlin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 09:56 AM Response to Reply #135 |
144. A god must be personal to be "relevant"? |
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PATRICK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 10:36 AM Response to Reply #144 |
150. Apparently |
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Merlin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 11:38 AM Response to Reply #150 |
168. Again I say, it's PHYSICS! He's not "abstractly" modeling. He's deducing. |
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shrike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 12:16 PM Response to Reply #168 |
177. Interesting point |
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Merlin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 12:31 PM Response to Reply #177 |
182. Many thanks. I agree. |
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truthpusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 08:43 PM Response to Reply #168 |
290. It's the people who have the split personality... |
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shrike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 10:42 PM Response to Reply #290 |
302. Interesting viewpoint |
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Merlin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 09:47 AM Response to Reply #123 |
143. The real "loser" is somebody who thinks he/she is smarter than this guy. |
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lazarus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 06:16 PM Response to Reply #143 |
264. No, he's talking statistics |
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Merlin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 06:27 PM Response to Reply #264 |
268. It's really not "that simple." And it's more than just life. |
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lazarus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-04 04:22 AM Response to Reply #268 |
332. Based on what? |
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currentsupply (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 03:23 AM Response to Original message |
122. Religion is the most egotistical nonsense ever! |
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Merlin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 09:44 AM Response to Reply #122 |
142. This is NOT Religion, damn it! It's physics. |
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VegasWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 01:08 PM Response to Reply #142 |
198. So, do you believe that some giant "Intelligence" just poofed it into |
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Merlin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 06:14 PM Response to Reply #198 |
263. Existence is a bit more complicated than you seem to think. |
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lazarus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 06:17 PM Response to Reply #263 |
266. Yep |
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VegasWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 10:49 PM Response to Reply #263 |
305. Nah, we are only the highest form that I know about. |
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Merlin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 11:16 PM Response to Reply #305 |
313. You don't understand what their saying. |
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VegasWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-04 01:05 AM Response to Reply #313 |
317. Nonsense! You really need to bone up on science. Logical |
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Merlin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-04 01:14 AM Response to Reply #317 |
318. "you can't represent real world knowledge with logic" |
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truthpusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-04 01:18 AM Response to Reply #263 |
319. Maybe Science is just the art of asking God questions... |
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Tight_rope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 04:19 AM Response to Original message |
126. My guess is that he knows he is soon to die and wants to get into heaven! |
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Merlin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 09:57 AM Response to Reply #126 |
145. My guess is that he's smarter than you are. |
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Mike Niendorff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 04:20 AM Response to Original message |
127. In other news: |
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essarhaddon (32 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 04:46 AM Response to Original message |
129. Atheists are wrong... |
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PATRICK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 09:00 AM Response to Reply #129 |
136. Better a positive view of belief |
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VegasWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 01:15 PM Response to Reply #136 |
200. Sorry, not so... |
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Merlin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 10:03 AM Response to Reply #129 |
146. Yup. Those who believe in "who knows" are much smarter. NOT! |
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PATRICK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 10:55 AM Response to Reply #146 |
155. I did read the article which also |
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Merlin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 12:27 PM Response to Reply #155 |
180. "Faith" is a very curious thing. |
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essarhaddon (32 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 10:57 AM Response to Reply #146 |
156. What a rude and arrogant reply |
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Merlin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 12:10 PM Response to Reply #156 |
175. Rude? Arrogant? Check your own post first! |
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essarhaddon (32 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 01:30 PM Response to Reply #175 |
203. your points? what points? |
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Merlin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 02:37 PM Response to Reply #203 |
216. Ha! Anthropic argument! Gosh, you've just done me in! |
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essarhaddon (32 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 04:06 PM Response to Reply #216 |
237. You can have the last word |
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dummy-du1 (111 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 04:37 PM Response to Reply #146 |
241. Irrationalism? |
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Stuckinthebush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 11:38 AM Response to Reply #129 |
169. I guess what you are saying is... |
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essarhaddon (32 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 12:33 PM Response to Reply #169 |
183. Not exactly |
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dummy-du1 (111 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 12:38 PM Response to Reply #129 |
186. Agnostics are atheists without the balls to admit it n/t |
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Stuckinthebush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 01:14 PM Response to Reply #186 |
199. Not true at all |
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dummy-du1 (111 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 01:29 PM Response to Reply #199 |
202. I don't think so |
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Stuckinthebush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 02:29 PM Response to Reply #202 |
214. By definition |
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dummy-du1 (111 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 03:31 PM Response to Reply #214 |
228. I have heard this before |
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Beetwasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 09:42 AM Response to Original message |
141. An 81 Year Old Facing His Own Mortality |
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shrike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 10:47 AM Response to Reply #141 |
151. He doesn't believe in an afterlife |
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Beetwasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 10:52 AM Response to Reply #151 |
154. Because It's An Easy Answer |
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shrike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 11:07 AM Response to Reply #154 |
157. If he wanted to be comfortable he'd have kept his mouth shut |
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Beetwasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 11:14 AM Response to Reply #157 |
160. Huh? That's Ridiculous |
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shrike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 11:16 AM Response to Reply #160 |
161. Well, you've responded to this thread and to me. You must care |
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Beetwasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 11:17 AM Response to Reply #161 |
162. I Think It's Intersting, That's All |
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shrike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 11:26 AM Response to Reply #162 |
163. Oh, heavens, it's not a victory |
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Beetwasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 11:34 AM Response to Reply #163 |
165. So What? |
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shrike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 12:06 PM Response to Reply #165 |
174. Well, Einstein was a pretty smart guy |
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Beetwasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 12:31 PM Response to Reply #174 |
181. Again, So What? |
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shrike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 12:36 PM Response to Reply #181 |
184. Actually, I'm only stating what I've read about Einstein |
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Beetwasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 12:41 PM Response to Reply #184 |
187. I Won't Take Your Word For It |
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shrike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 12:50 PM Response to Reply #187 |
191. Ah, a DU p**sing contest |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 12:58 PM Response to Reply #191 |
195. Deleted message |
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223. Deleted message |
Beetwasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 03:22 PM Response to Reply #223 |
225. I Could Care Less |
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shrike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 10:32 PM Response to Reply #225 |
298. Honey, I'm a she, not a he |
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shrike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 12:42 PM Response to Reply #181 |
188. Clarification: agnostic is probably a good term for Einstein |
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Beetwasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 12:44 PM Response to Reply #188 |
190. Ok, But That's Different Than What You've Said |
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shrike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 10:31 PM Response to Reply #190 |
297. Yes, of sorts. Meaning that he didn't so much believe as |
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Merlin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 03:21 PM Response to Reply #188 |
224. Actually, Einstein believed there must be creator. |
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Beetwasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 03:27 PM Response to Reply #224 |
226. Oh? Where Does It Say That In Any Of Those Quotes? |
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Merlin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 04:30 PM Response to Reply #226 |
240. You're wrong. If you knew Spinoza you'd understand what he's saying. |
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Beetwasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 04:40 PM Response to Reply #240 |
242. LOL!!! If I Knew Spinoza!!! LOL! |
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248. Deleted message |
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Merlin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 05:50 PM Response to Reply #242 |
257. LOL. Your ignorance of the views of Spinoza and Einstein is awesome. |
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Beetwasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 06:30 PM Response to Reply #257 |
270. Creator Specifies Something, Something Spinoza's Dismisses and You Don't |
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Misunderestimator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 10:04 AM Response to Original message |
147. Oh I do like "cosmic Saddam Husseins" |
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hatrack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 10:07 AM Response to Original message |
148. 21st Century version of Pascal's Wager |
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The Stranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 10:49 AM Response to Original message |
152. I think it probably pays better. |
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amazona (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 10:51 AM Response to Original message |
153. it's the old story |
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shrike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 11:08 AM Response to Reply #153 |
158. See above. He doesn't believe in an afterlife. |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 12:56 PM Response to Reply #158 |
194. Neither anything else in the Judeo-CHristian mythology. |
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Stuckinthebush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 11:26 AM Response to Original message |
164. It sounds like he came to the conclusion |
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Stunster (984 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 02:08 PM Response to Original message |
205. Reflections on Flew's new position |
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truthpusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 08:56 PM Response to Reply #205 |
291. I believe that God is best found in personal experiences. |
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daleo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-04 02:13 AM Response to Reply #291 |
327. I agree with you |
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Beetwasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 02:19 PM Response to Original message |
210. FLEW REFUTES THIS ARTICLE! It's Bullshit! |
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VegasWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 02:22 PM Response to Reply #210 |
211. Just another attempt to try and keep the sheep from straying. n/t |
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Merlin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 03:00 PM Response to Reply #210 |
218. Sorry but the refutation itself is BULLSHIT. The original story stands. |
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Beetwasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 03:03 PM Response to Reply #218 |
220. Uh, No, Read It, It's Directly From Flew |
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jwcomer (177 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 03:42 PM Response to Reply #220 |
229. You are both mistaken |
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Beetwasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 03:58 PM Response to Reply #229 |
233. Corrected Link |
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dhinojosa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 04:02 PM Response to Reply #229 |
234. Christians, Muslims, Jews, Atheists etc. don't know shit. |
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Merlin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 04:47 PM Response to Reply #234 |
245. You didn't even read the article did you. |
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dhinojosa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 06:45 PM Response to Reply #245 |
273. Not all of it, I got bored about half way. |
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Merlin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 04:42 PM Response to Reply #229 |
244. But the point remains that the article at the top of the thread stands. |
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Beetwasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 05:12 PM Response to Reply #244 |
251. Bullshit, You're Totally Wrong AND The Article Is BULLSHIT |
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Merlin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 05:56 PM Response to Reply #251 |
259. LOL! Touchy, aren't we! And wrong as well. |
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Beetwasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 06:33 PM Response to Reply #259 |
271. Do You Know What Possbility Means? |
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truthpusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-04 01:31 AM Response to Reply #251 |
322. I am curious about your determination? |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 03:43 PM Response to Reply #210 |
230. OMG the closet fundies are blowing a gasket! TOO funny! (nt) |
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truthpusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-04 01:27 AM Response to Reply #210 |
321. Date of your article: Date published: 08/31/2001 |
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MAlibdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 02:24 PM Response to Original message |
213. somebody's afraid of dying... |
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aikido15 (637 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 05:43 PM Response to Reply #213 |
256. Exactly... |
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SaintLouisBlues (755 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 02:31 PM Response to Original message |
215. Did he fall into a foxhole? |
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dhinojosa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 04:04 PM Response to Original message |
235. Christians, Muslims, Jews, Atheists etc. don't know shit. |
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dummy-du1 (111 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 04:09 PM Response to Reply #235 |
238. So physics is wrong |
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dhinojosa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 04:26 PM Response to Reply #238 |
239. No, physicists just don't know |
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dummy-du1 (111 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 04:42 PM Response to Reply #239 |
243. Not, quite true |
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dhinojosa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 07:34 PM Response to Reply #243 |
275. 2nd Law of Thermodynamics? |
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daleo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-04 02:20 AM Response to Reply #275 |
328. Poincare's eternal recurrence theorem |
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dummy-du1 (111 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-04 02:42 AM Response to Reply #275 |
330. Reading? |
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Merlin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 04:49 PM Response to Reply #235 |
246. You didn't even read the article, did you. |
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VegasWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 10:00 PM Response to Reply #246 |
295. But this kind of god seems worthless. If it has no active |
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aikido15 (637 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 05:42 PM Response to Original message |
255. WHATEVER! |
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GOPBasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 05:51 PM Response to Original message |
258. I'm with him, personally. |
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Merlin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 06:03 PM Response to Reply #258 |
260. You're in growing company--especially among scientists. |
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GOPBasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 06:24 PM Response to Reply #260 |
267. That's an awesome question. |
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Merlin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 08:02 PM Response to Reply #267 |
280. Thanks for asking. |
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GOPBasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 08:32 PM Response to Reply #280 |
288. Whoa, excellent post! |
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shrike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 10:39 PM Response to Reply #260 |
301. Very much so |
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VegasWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 10:58 PM Response to Reply #260 |
308. I don't know any scientist who's "converted." Just a point of reference. |
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Hosnon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 11:00 PM Response to Reply #260 |
312. I believe in something like a Logos for the universe. Something that |
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truthpusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-04 01:38 AM Response to Reply #260 |
323. Absolutely.. |
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shrike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 10:36 PM Response to Reply #258 |
299. The late Stephen Jay Gould had a different take on this |
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brentspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 06:04 PM Response to Original message |
261. Well, good for him |
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Merlin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 06:17 PM Response to Reply #261 |
265. LOL! So true. |
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neweurope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 06:28 PM Response to Original message |
269. 266 posts so far on that matter. One becomes what one hates the |
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shrike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 10:45 PM Response to Reply #269 |
304. You know, you're right |
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VegasWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 10:55 PM Response to Reply #269 |
307. It's just because this thread is so much fun. |
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essarhaddon (32 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 06:52 PM Response to Original message |
274. yay, the complexity of nature |
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Merlin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 08:20 PM Response to Reply #274 |
284. Finally we agree on something. |
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superconnected (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 08:16 PM Response to Original message |
282. what is it with DU and religion bashers anyway |
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Merlin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 08:31 PM Response to Reply #282 |
287. It is a sad fault many of us have in response to being villified by some. |
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superconnected (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 10:59 PM Response to Reply #287 |
310. yeah but it's the same thing as hating all muslims for 911 |
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regnaD kciN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-04 01:20 AM Response to Reply #287 |
320. Self-Contradiction 101... |
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Merlin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-04 01:59 AM Response to Reply #320 |
326. Perhaps. But people are driven more by emotion than by logic. |
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shrike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 10:43 PM Response to Reply #282 |
303. Sad but true |
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Hosnon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 10:58 PM Response to Reply #282 |
309. Yea, sometimes some here can be just as bad as the neocons on another site |
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(20 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 09:30 PM Response to Original message |
292. atheist sees the light |
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ikojo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 09:35 PM Response to Original message |
293. He's cramming for the final exam.... |
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killbotfactory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 10:38 PM Response to Original message |
300. So? |
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Hosnon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 10:53 PM Response to Original message |
306. Seems to me that he just acknowledged that there is |
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VegasWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 11:00 PM Response to Original message |
311. Now he and awol have something in common! n/t |
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Kimber Scott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 11:34 PM Response to Original message |
314. What's wrong with that? He's just as entitled to believe in an |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-04 01:57 AM Response to Original message |
325. No he doesn't. He's just fucking with us. |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-04 02:31 AM Response to Reply #325 |
329. "..have some similarity with American "intelligent design" theorists, "... |
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Moderator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-04 09:53 AM Response to Original message |
335. Locking |
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