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TexasTowelie

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34. Jay Peak, EB-5 visas.

Mon Apr 8, 2019, 12:30 PM

Apr 2019

Bernie didn't have any problems with the immigrants willing to pay up to a half million dollars to invest in the Jay Peak resort in Vermont to obtain EB-5 visas. I guess that some immigrants are better than others?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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BERNIE SANDERS SAYS U.S. CAN'T HAVE 'OPEN BORDERS' BECAUSE POOR PEOPLE WILL COME 'FROM [View all] Uncle Joe Apr 2019 OP

Handing Trump cover for his racist, hate-filled policies is NOT the way, Bernie n/t hlthe2b Apr 2019 #1

Dear God...how could anyone support this? Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #4

It's the "Free Stuff For White People" agenda in action. nt Maven Apr 2019 #18

Makes me want to hurl. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #27

Disgusting. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #157

Are you for open borders? Lazy Daisy Apr 2019 #128

I believe in immigration reform. But yes I believe in granting asylum to Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #156

That wasn't my question Lazy Daisy Apr 2019 #164

It is the position of the Democratic Party so far. dogman Apr 2019 #154

No it is not. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #158

He sure didn't say what you say. dogman Apr 2019 #161

Sickening and muddies the Democratic message, Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #5

And I believe he's doing this to set himself apart from the 'other Democrats' who maybe ya know UniteFightBack Apr 2019 #35

NO Democratic candidate suppports "open borders" brooklynite Apr 2019 #45

So you are in favor of open borders? Voltaire2 Apr 2019 #70

Removing our borders while de-facto eliminating us as nation is not racist nor xenophobic. Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #8

uggh. just ughh. No one is calling for "Open Borders" sans any security/protection/policy hlthe2b Apr 2019 #10

Sanders has voted against a pathway to citizenship. WeekiWater Apr 2019 #12

Do you have a link? Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #21

I find his supporters often know the least about him. WeekiWater Apr 2019 #26

He voted against the immigration bill in 2007. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #31

Because of that bill's guest worker provisions which in effect promoted slave labor while Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #83

BS voted for the 2013 bill which included a guest worker program. lapucelle Apr 2019 #139

This is why Bernie voted for the 2013 bill Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #141

So then his 2007 vote wasn't a protest against the "slave wages" lapucelle Apr 2019 #143

Apparently you didn't read the post I just made. Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #146

This is shameful. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #16

"Open borders" does not mean removing the borders awesomerwb1 Apr 2019 #77

For all practical purposes it does as promoted by the Koch brothers. Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #91

It means that our national border policy would be identical to our inter-state border policies. Voltaire2 Apr 2019 #112

This! mcar Apr 2019 #52

There are better ways to articulate an immigration policy mcar Apr 2019 #60

++++++++++++ sheshe2 Apr 2019 #78

No shit. cwydro Apr 2019 #106

LOL. So xenophobia and isolationism are a 'good thing' when they come from Bernie? nt Maven Apr 2019 #2

Excellent quesion. Cha Apr 2019 #133

Wait, are you saying for instance if a candidate WERE to promote a wall or MUCH MUCH Stronger border Eliot Rosewater Apr 2019 #3

He is saying that the party should move right on immigration as an economic issue. marylandblue Apr 2019 #41

Democrats arent addressing the immigration issue at all? Eliot Rosewater Apr 2019 #43

I named 3 specific policies that would restrict immigration marylandblue Apr 2019 #49

And that's moving back left on economic issues. KPN Apr 2019 #102

No its about catering to racists. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #159

I think he saying he wants to restrict immigration marylandblue Apr 2019 #162

Do you support open borders? Voltaire2 Apr 2019 #71

lol stonecutter357 Apr 2019 #6

Who is it who is calling for "open borders?" dawg day Apr 2019 #7

The Kochs are, it's in the OP and they refer to it as open border. Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #14

So, you think Bernie supporting the concept of preserving "National" identity by closing borders hlthe2b Apr 2019 #25

Bernie is not for closing the borders and I believe you know that, we haven't had open borders Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #28

You seem to be contradicting yourself throughout this thread. Honestly, I don't know what you are hlthe2b Apr 2019 #30

Truth Will Out Me. Apr 2019 #9

No one is calling for open borders. No one. If I am wrong about this IndyOp Apr 2019 #11

First sentence of the link. dogman Apr 2019 #155

Yikes Bernie... Socal31 Apr 2019 #13

He plays to Trump'so base and in effect calls Democrats open border lovers...win win Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #17

The questioner asked about "open borders" and that's what the Kochs have been promoting. Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #24

Joe I like you and the idea of national identity and this crap is not who you are. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #33

I like you as well Demsrule but national identity is what the Kochs are trying to eliminate with Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #38

National idenity is a racist notion. Imigrants don't hurt our identity...and the idea that we need Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #44

National identity is having a government of "We the People" not "We the Corporations." Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #85

He was asked a question by a member of the audience. Should all the candidates refuse to Autumn Apr 2019 #40

Why? Because he was asked a question at a town hall and being the polite person he is Autumn Apr 2019 #58

I was suggesting he shouldn't entertain the question. Socal31 Apr 2019 #67

On the Statue of Liberty, which greeted Bernie's family when they arrived to America RandySF Apr 2019 #15

Do you support open borders? Voltaire2 Apr 2019 #72

The Kochs Have Professed Concern for Immigrants--But Their Spending Tells a Different Story Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #19

I like the Koch's position on immigration much better than Bernie's. comradebillyboy Apr 2019 #47

Well, the blasters will certainly be blasting Bernie over his position that we shouldn't have open KPN Apr 2019 #20

Thank you for the voice of reason KPN. Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #22

Yeah, and all the clamor some here make about Progressives being a circular firing squad. KPN Apr 2019 #23

Europe has had open borders since 1985. It has made them stronger... TreasonousBastard Apr 2019 #29

Within the EU. Not at all for people outside the EU. Voltaire2 Apr 2019 #73

Last time I flew to Frankfurt or London, I didn't even go through a passport check... TreasonousBastard Apr 2019 #86

Yeah you did. Voltaire2 Apr 2019 #110

I remember the "Passkontrol" in Frankfurt was simply a huge mob waving passports in the air... TreasonousBastard Apr 2019 #114

So again, you went through passport control in Frankfurt. Voltaire2 Apr 2019 #116

"Few Americans Want Open Borders-- Democrats Included" P.S. Including President Obama Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #32

President Obama..2.5 million deported NP👍👍👍 Bernie deported ZERO people...racist xenophobe!11!1! workinclasszero Apr 2019 #64

Except that your premise is completely wrong. MrsCoffee Apr 2019 #75

Josh Earnest acknowledged Obama supports deportation of those who recently entered the US illegally progressoid Apr 2019 #79

Your premise is wrong, statistically it makes no difference how many get deported. If we had Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #88

Hmmm. sheshe2 Apr 2019 #82

Technically speaking, if ALL the guns are pointed at Bernie, the firing squad is not circular marylandblue Apr 2019 #105

Yeah that was my point workinclasszero Apr 2019 #113

So much for my attempt at humor marylandblue Apr 2019 #121

I get it workinclasszero Apr 2019 #122

silly comparison treestar Apr 2019 #163

This is a gross distortion. MrsCoffee Apr 2019 #76

Jay Peak, EB-5 visas. TexasTowelie Apr 2019 #34

+++ sheshe2 Apr 2019 #84

Ex-Jay Peak owner to pay in EB-5 visa fraud case Go Vols Apr 2019 #126

I hope that Bernie can clarify this. themaguffin Apr 2019 #36

He was asked at a town hall why he supports open borders. He doesn't, he clarified that Autumn Apr 2019 #42

Sad that he so quickly attached it to "a lot of poverty in this world." WeekiWater Apr 2019 #59

No ? People try to come to America because they are fleeing the wealth of their homeland? Autumn Apr 2019 #61

This clears up a lot. WeekiWater Apr 2019 #62

Reducing their plight to a Jim Carey gif. sheshe2 Apr 2019 #93

Yeah we know why they flee their homeland, so does Bernie, his family fled the Holocaust. Autumn Apr 2019 #96

Obviously BS does. sheshe2 Apr 2019 #107

The truth is often disturbing. Poverty is one of the main reasons people emigrate from their home Autumn Apr 2019 #111

It is not just about poverty. sheshe2 Apr 2019 #118

I said one of the main factors. Be sorry for the ones turned away and not given an opportunity. nt Autumn Apr 2019 #120

This message was self-deleted by its author namahage Apr 2019 #117

What do you believe is best way for the U.S. to solve those problems and how Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #109

So, Bernie's plan is, like, all nuanced and stuff like that, right? MineralMan Apr 2019 #37

MM, I hope you can spell this out for us. rgbecker Apr 2019 #56

I can't clear it up. It's too complicated for that. MineralMan Apr 2019 #57

Open borders mean no limits on immigration. Voltaire2 Apr 2019 #119

That's one voter who now knows Bernie isn't for open borders. I don't see where Bernie discussed Autumn Apr 2019 #63

Makes sense to me customerserviceguy Apr 2019 #39

Well when my Grandfather came Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #48

When we had them to hand out customerserviceguy Apr 2019 #65

When we had them to hand out customerserviceguy Apr 2019 #66

Nothing has ended. The only reason this even an issue is Bernie. Said it. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #69

Unless you are very old your grandfather had to pass through immigration. Voltaire2 Apr 2019 #74

He's right. Open borders is pure madness, and a Koch bros. libertarian dream. borgesian Apr 2019 #46

No he is not right. And hopefully this will be a disaster for him. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #50

Open borders is fringe libertarian stuff, and is not a popular policy position. borgesian Apr 2019 #51

No Democrat has advocated this position. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #55

Are you serious? workinclasszero Apr 2019 #115

Joe Biden has ethics. He is for comprehensive reform. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #160

Truthier News: Media Again Plays WHERE's Waldo? with words and phrases. Fred Sandman Apr 2019 #53

I don't agree with the concept of nation-states. It causes world wars. yardwork Apr 2019 #54

More divisive BS we can do it Apr 2019 #68

You would think that Bernie would be smarter than to fall for the two word fascist newspeak... Thomas Hurt Apr 2019 #80

Rep. Steve King praises Bernie's stance on immigration. comradebillyboy Apr 2019 #81

Is there a list of Democrats that are advocating for or support open borders? Autumn Apr 2019 #87

Not that I know of. comradebillyboy Apr 2019 #89

So it's only bad when Bernie is against open borders? nt Autumn Apr 2019 #90

Bernie has the most restrictive immigration policies right now. comradebillyboy Apr 2019 #98

We know why he voted against the 2007 comprehensive immigration reform bill, I agree with him Autumn Apr 2019 #99

That wasn't his position on thde Dobbs show lunamagica Apr 2019 #101

I don't watch Fox. nt Autumn Apr 2019 #103

That was on CNN lunamagica Apr 2019 #123

Boom! sheshe2 Apr 2019 #153

What exact point that Bernie made in this interview do you disagree with? Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #108

"I don't know why we need millions of prople coming into this country" lunamagica Apr 2019 #129

Do you believe near slavery either takes away jobs or has a diminishing effect on workers income? Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #131

You are ignoring what he said on Lou Dobbs. You want to make it sound like he had some concern lunamagica Apr 2019 #132

Gracias for the Reality on BS' stance on immigration, Cha Apr 2019 #136

Bernie has always had sincere concern for the people, that's one of his major strengths, Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #138

I view him very differently, the clip showed a total disregard for immigrants, so we'll diagree lunamagica Apr 2019 #145

If immigration is "so good now" why is virtually every Democratic Candidate for President calling Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #148

Are you seriously asking that? Yes they are all calling for immigration reform with a path lunamagica Apr 2019 #150

So is Bernie. Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #151

Unlike Sanders, none of the others have scape-goated immigrants, so they are believable lunamagica Apr 2019 #152

Thanks for posting BS' record of "Voting against Immigration" Cha Apr 2019 #135

You are welcome, Cha. It is hard to believe that someone buys he is pro-immigration reform after lunamagica Apr 2019 #147

Of course, he does.. but you know Cha Apr 2019 #149

We all know the obvious answer to that question!! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #127

I saw that on twitter.. very Cha Apr 2019 #134

Remember, this guy voted against immigration reform, and then ran to Dobbs to brag about it lunamagica Apr 2019 #92

From my post# 83 Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #95

GMAB. Just look at the clip from Dobbs. Concern for immigrants was the last thing on his mind lunamagica Apr 2019 #100

GMAB which exact point that Bernie made in this interview do you disagree with? Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #104

Shameful. Cha Apr 2019 #137

Im glad MFM008 Apr 2019 #94

In 1853, the U.S. already had slave labor. Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #97

Another right wing talking point goes by the wayside Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2019 #124

I agree Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin. Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #125

This message was self-deleted by its author RandySF Apr 2019 #130

That is one of the most blunt and damning headlines I've ever seen in Newsweek. lapucelle Apr 2019 #140

Perhaps that's because all you're focusing on IS the headline. Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #142

I did read it. N/T lapucelle Apr 2019 #144