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Congratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
Democratic Primaries
In reply to the discussion: A candidate that gets 35% of the votes shouldn't win. But a candidate that gets 25% should! [View all]Squinch
(52,122 posts)1. Oh, FFS.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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A candidate that gets 35% of the votes shouldn't win. But a candidate that gets 25% should! [View all]
DanTex
Feb 2020
OP
Agreed. No idea why superdelegates are already talking about stopping Bernie at the convention.
DanTex
Feb 2020
#9
Hopefully you're right, and those superdelegates that went on the record for that NYT article
DanTex
Feb 2020
#18
"overwhelming opposition to handing Mr. Sanders the nomination if he fell short of a majority
ehrnst
Feb 2020
#129
Maybe the convention rules should just be, "Bernie gets the nomination no matter what". n/t
Mister Ed
Feb 2020
#6
Nah. Bernie/Biden/Warren/Pete/Mike/Amy gets the nomination if (s)he gets the most votes.
DanTex
Feb 2020
#17
Of course. How the delegates and supers choose to carry out those rules makes all the difference.
DanTex
Feb 2020
#72
And your opinion is fine too. We'll see. Hopefully the supers respect the will of the electorate,
DanTex
Feb 2020
#81
Thank you. I swear, that should be an OP, pinned to the top of the Primaries forum. n/t
Mister Ed
Feb 2020
#136
Yes, although I knew your post was inspired by Sanders, it was presented in the abstract,
thesquanderer
Feb 2020
#40
" the establishment went ahead and put in their favorite candidate rather than the one that the
ehrnst
Feb 2020
#128
35% is a bit low to be demanding the nomination, especially if others are only a few points back
Celerity
Feb 2020
#51
"And votes are votes. Whoever gets the most votes should be the nominee. Period. Simple."
ehrnst
Feb 2020
#133
Which is why it's so weird that superdelegates are already talking about "stopping Bernie."
DanTex
Feb 2020
#10
Yes, the superdelegates whining about the people voting for the "wrong" candidate is truly tiring.
DanTex
Feb 2020
#15
Even simpler than that. Just follow the rules that are already set and agreed to.
MrsCoffee
Feb 2020
#21
"The responsibility that superdelegates have is to decide what is best for this country and what is
ehrnst
Feb 2020
#35
Not at all. The 2016 discussion requires (a lot of) context. Best not relitigate. Move forward.
DanTex
Feb 2020
#63
Sorry, Pal. His own words are documented. Same context, same subject - contested convention.
ehrnst
Feb 2020
#83
You can keep copying and pasting "re-litigating" but that doesn't mean it has any relevance.
ehrnst
Feb 2020
#91
Like I said, I have no interest in re-litigating 2016. Different circumstances, as we all know.
DanTex
Feb 2020
#109
SDs exist to prevent another 72 and 84, so people who don't know about history prior to
themaguffin
Feb 2020
#36
"how about just let the voters have their say! And then whoever gets the most votes is the nominee!
ehrnst
Feb 2020
#131
Candidate with 35% of votes - when split among bunch of candidates - shouldn't win first ballot.
Hoyt
Feb 2020
#38
Second ballot. Obviously the 35 candidate should be chosen over the 25. Because 35 is more than 25
DanTex
Feb 2020
#50
"Obviously the 35 candidate should be chosen over the 25. Because 35 is more than 25"
ehrnst
Feb 2020
#127
No, the argument is the candidate that can meet the required threshold should win.
W_HAMILTON
Feb 2020
#39
"The responsibility that superdelegates have is to decide what is best for this country and what is
ehrnst
Feb 2020
#41
Oh well...gonna lose in a landslide if Sanders is the nominee anyway..At least
helpisontheway
Feb 2020
#45
2016, a lot of things went down, different circumstances entirely. I prefer not to re-litigate.
DanTex
Feb 2020
#60
Best not to re-litigate the 2016 primary. Different circumstance entirely. Let's move forward.
DanTex
Feb 2020
#58
Moving forward in a united democratic fashion to defeat Trump. Yes, transparency is good.
DanTex
Feb 2020
#61
Totally different, and you know it as well as I. But I'm not getting into 2016.
DanTex
Feb 2020
#100
It completely undermines your frantic defense of the strategy that will benefit your candidate
ehrnst
Feb 2020
#114
Undermines nothing. I'm just not re-litigating all that happened in 2016. Sorry!
DanTex
Feb 2020
#115
You keep copying and pasting the very same evasion, and can't ever back up your position
ehrnst
Feb 2020
#117
Not sure how you think it's a "dog whistle". 2016 was a different circumstance, everyone knows that
DanTex
Feb 2020
#98
It's just embarrassing for you. You can't defend your position on superdelegates
ehrnst
Feb 2020
#101
No rule change. It's just a matter of whether the delegates respect the will of the electorate.
DanTex
Feb 2020
#68
"will of the electorate" means 50%+. With less than 50%, there isn't "will of the electorate"
AGeddy
Feb 2020
#73
In a case where nobody is over 50%... then NO candidate has the "will of the electorate"
AGeddy
Feb 2020
#79
So you're saying "let the voters decide" or it's "obviously wrong, and nobody is going to buy it?"
ehrnst
Feb 2020
#105
"It's just a matter of whether the delegates respect the will of the electorate."
ehrnst
Feb 2020
#121
If the candidate who gets 25% can convince 25% more to join them, while the one with 35% can't...
AGeddy
Feb 2020
#70
What's funny about this thread is that if Bernie goes into the convention with 28%
AGeddy
Feb 2020
#75
2016 was a different circumstance entirely, best not to re-litigate and move forward instead
DanTex
Feb 2020
#90
Yes, it was different in that Hillary won the MAJORITY of both the popular vote and delegates...
W_HAMILTON
Feb 2020
#93