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Stuart G

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37. No one in Florida votes for Nader, those that were thinking that, vote for Gore...and..
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 11:14 PM
Apr 2019

Last edited Mon Apr 8, 2019, 12:30 AM - Edit history (13)

Democrats win Florida, also, Gore wins the election. No Iraq War...Yes, blaming voters for death.
Why? Gore would not have started that war in my opinion. Bush Jr. started that for lies, and his feelings.
He lied about that war, weapons of mass destruction, and more.

Bush instructed his administration to lie. I remember those lies. Particularly the Sec of State, Colin Powell,..Well thought of person lied to everyone. You don't like it, ok. But....That is the way history goes. Someone lies about war, there is a war, thousands are killed. It is the truth. How about another example..an awful lie that killed millions upon millions...

Stalin signed a peace pact with Hitler. Stalin believed Hitler would keep his word. They thought alike. No war with Germany Stalin thought. One leader talking to another.

When Germany stated amassing soldiers at the German / Soviet Union border, Stalin didn't believe it was true. So Hitler's soldiers invaded the Soviet Union on June 22, 1941, in a massive invasion. There were many in Russia who believed Hitler. Germans believed Hitler. No war with Soviet Union. Hitler had total support of his people..ok, invasion of Soviet Union..Maybe 25 million killed?..Maybe 20, maybe 30?...Stalin did not keep track. Did Hitler?

Guess what..in an early 30s election Hitler won, and became the leader of Germany. The German voters voted him in. You don't like it?...Look it up. It is the truth.

If Gore would have won Florida, things might have changed completely. Voters kill. They vote in the wrong person, then that person kills. Look it up..It is the truth. Don't like it? Ok then you can lie about it too.

Ok..here is an article on the July 31, 1932 German election...just hit the link and it will give you the results...
.......So, all you have to do is hit this link:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/July_1932_German_federal_election

from the above article:
"After the election, Chancellor Papen urged Hindenburg to continue to govern by emergency decrees. Nevertheless, on 3 December he was superseded by his Defence Minister Kurt von Schleicher who in talks with the left wing of the Nazi Party led by Gregor Strasser tried to build up a Third Position (Querfront) strategy. These plans failed when in turn Hitler disempowered Strasser and approached Papen for coalition talks. Papen obtained Hindenburg's consent to form the Hitler Cabinet on 30 January 1933."

......So those elections in July were not the final word...Germany had another election in November of 1932:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/November_1932_German_federal_election

A few months following that election...Hitler was installed leader of Germany..Hit the link above...

.More info on the results of November 1932 election in Germany..from an article on Hitler's Cabinet:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitler_Cabinet

The Hitler Cabinet de jure formed the government of Nazi Germany between 30 January 1933 and 30 April 1945 upon the appointment of Adolf Hitler as Chancellor of the German Reich by president Paul von Hindenburg. Contrived by the national conservative politician Franz von Papen, who reserved the office of the Vice-Chancellor for himself.[1] Originally, Hitler's first cabinet was called the Reich Cabinet of National Salvation,[2] which was a coalition of the Nazi Party (NSDAP) and the national conservative German National People's Party (DNVP), it became an exclusively Nazi cabinet when the DNVP was intimidated into dissolving itself.

The Enabling Act of 1933, passed two months after Hitler took office, gave the cabinet the power to make laws without legislative consent for four years. In effect, this power was vested in Hitler, and for all intents and purposes it made Hitler a dictator. After the Enabling Act's passage, serious deliberations more or less ended at cabinet meetings. It met only sporadically after 1934, and last met in full on 5 February 1938.[3] Nonetheless, it grew immensely in size on paper, due to the addition of the commanders of the armed services and several ministers without portfolio.
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Read it all, or read it none..or some. But elections have consequences. Those that vote for killers are responsible. Sure the voters don't kill, but their votes kill. Bush Jr. killed. Johnson/Kennedy started a war that killed. That war was continued under Nixon. It killed tens of thousands. Johnson hated the war. Felt bad about it. War Kills.
...That is why it is to be avoided at all costs. I often showed a movie about WWII to my high school students. That movie is called .."Night and Fog" 32 minutes. Be warned, it is the worst, saddest, most awful movie I have ever seen. Just 32 minutes... Here is a link. read the first 15 reviews. My review is there. Order of reviews is changed daily or every few days. Today..4/7/19 my review is 2nd. Yes, it is the most powerful movie ever made. Sad beyond belief, and total truth. Read the first 15 reviews..all agree, so powerful and sad, you will never forget it.

You are warned!! my name at IMBD is : stuartpiles The title of the review is...

....The Most Powerful Film Ever Made...
........stuartpiles,...16 November 2004...

Yes it is there, I checked it out..

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0048434/



If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
It is the truth. yardwork Apr 2019 #1
Yes. This is the truth. My post is ugly, mean, very sad, but the truth. Stuart G Apr 2019 #2
I agree absolutely! The Democratic Nominee is OUR nominee. NO EXCEPTIONS. IndianaDave Apr 2019 #39
Yes, we vote blue no matter who. FM123 Apr 2019 #3
Yes, I will vote blue no matter who., I will vote blue, no matter who..(again) Stuart G Apr 2019 #4
When did Nader and Stein get considered "our party"? lostnfound Apr 2019 #5
I found the post...the post that proves is number 5 by Cha in this series at this link Stuart G Apr 2019 #6
This will raise everyone's ire plimsoll Apr 2019 #7
Yes, Obama's comments yesterday make sense to me. Stuart G Apr 2019 #8
My second paragraph is in response to a Rahm Emanuel statement plimsoll Apr 2019 #11
There are more centrists than left left...they can spoil and have...but Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #16
Agreed plimsoll Apr 2019 #22
Well,they need to increase their numbers by winning hearts and minds. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #23
Absolutely! plimsoll Apr 2019 #26
The progressive side is in the minority because they have not convince enogh people. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #32
So your answer is submit? plimsoll Apr 2019 #34
My solution is win anyway we can while working on hearts and minds. Losing sets back Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #35
I think we're agreeing plimsoll Apr 2019 #14
Every time this comes up I'm always left to wonder... TCJ70 Apr 2019 #9
Exactly the point I'm trying to make. plimsoll Apr 2019 #13
It is not a win or lose situation. We need to run on winning issues. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #17
What do any of us gain if Trump wins again? Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #19
Th question really is are there more centrists than progressives. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #20
what does that even mean ? they are voting for the more liberal candidate JI7 Apr 2019 #25
Corporate donations I would imagine. jalan48 Apr 2019 #27
Exactly. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #33
i agree nader should not have run. also nader has saved thousands of lives. so there's that. Kurt V. Apr 2019 #10
Good Point...., "also nader has saved thousands of lives. so there's that." Stuart G Apr 2019 #12
No he didn't.. The car thing was bullshit. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #18
Your statement is not true so everything you say after is not true. wasupaloopa Apr 2019 #15
It is true... Greens started two wars, hurt the environment and caused an economic debacle. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #21
Maybe study logic wasupaloopa Apr 2019 #38
Maybe study history. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #40
so called progressives that voted for Stein, Nader etc tend to like Donald Trump types JI7 Apr 2019 #24
Who here wont vote for the nominee ? CentralMass Apr 2019 #28
I don't believe you can "count" 3rd party votes for any side (dem or rep) bernie59 Apr 2019 #29
Please don't hold up someone else's body as part of your argument loyalsister Apr 2019 #30
Those who voted for Nader weren't on our side. Kaleva Apr 2019 #31
Are you fucking kidding me? Lazy Daisy Apr 2019 #36
No one in Florida votes for Nader, those that were thinking that, vote for Gore...and.. Stuart G Apr 2019 #37
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