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Congratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
Democratic Primaries
In reply to the discussion: Some of us are pretending Bernie is NOT a socialist, when he's called himself [View all]ehrnst
(32,640 posts)121. Well, Sanders was very involved in the marxist Socialist Worker Party. Anyone who thinks
that won't be brought up in a GE constantly by the GOP is naive.
Six months after the 1980 election, on May 21, 1981, Sanders spoke at another Pulley rally. For the last 40 years, Sanders said, the Socialist Workers Party has
been harassed, informed upon, had their offices broken into, had members of their party fired from their jobs, and have been treated with cold contempt by the United States government. Even worse, he went on, apparently referring to the Iranian hostage crisis, now anybody who stands up and fights and says things is automatically a terrorist. He claimed that he had been investigated himself by the FBI because I was an elector for the Socialist Workers Party, referring to his formal role in the 1980 election with the Trotskyists.
The Sanders campaign did not respond to a request for comment. Asked about the SWP in 1988, Sanders, then the mayor of Burlington and a congressional candidate, talked down the connection, saying that: I was asked to put my name on the ballot and I did, thats true." Today, no mention of Sanders association with the SWP appears in any campaign biography he has issued. But Sanders remained tied to the party after 1980. He was a featured speaker at a Boston rally for the SWPs Massachusetts gubernatorial candidate and the partys slate for Congress in 1982, the year after he was narrowly elected mayor of Burlington. In 1984, he again spoke on behalf of the SWPs presidential candidate, this time former Black Panther Mel Mason, telling The Militant that at a time when the Democratic and Republican parties are intellectually and spiritually bankrupt, it is imperative for radical voices to be heard which offer fundamental alternatives to capitalist ideology." It remains unclear when Sanderss affiliation with the SWP ended.
The Sanders campaign did not respond to a request for comment. Asked about the SWP in 1988, Sanders, then the mayor of Burlington and a congressional candidate, talked down the connection, saying that: I was asked to put my name on the ballot and I did, thats true." Today, no mention of Sanders association with the SWP appears in any campaign biography he has issued. But Sanders remained tied to the party after 1980. He was a featured speaker at a Boston rally for the SWPs Massachusetts gubernatorial candidate and the partys slate for Congress in 1982, the year after he was narrowly elected mayor of Burlington. In 1984, he again spoke on behalf of the SWPs presidential candidate, this time former Black Panther Mel Mason, telling The Militant that at a time when the Democratic and Republican parties are intellectually and spiritually bankrupt, it is imperative for radical voices to be heard which offer fundamental alternatives to capitalist ideology." It remains unclear when Sanderss affiliation with the SWP ended.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/when-iran-took-americans-hostage-bernie-backed-irans-defenders
Before anyone starts in with "that was so many years ago..." 1981 is far more recent than Bernie's participation in the MLK March on Washington, or being arrested in college at a protest that he promotes as a very relevant part of his social justice cred.
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Some of us are pretending Bernie is NOT a socialist, when he's called himself [View all]
pnwmom
Feb 2020
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He's not the only Democratic candidate that cares about all people and wants to see their
ehrnst
Feb 2020
#8
So far, he has a lot less support than last time, and it looks like a brokered convention.
pnwmom
Feb 2020
#79
I see: McGovern, Mondale and Dukakis didn't want to see people's lives improve?
brooklynite
Feb 2020
#13
Not for EW, for example. For many people she's their 2nd choice. Bernie is a hard no for many. nt
pnwmom
Feb 2020
#89
Bernie's strength has always been in the caucuses. In my state he won the caucuses
pnwmom
Feb 2020
#93
And people had to stand in line for hours to do their voting. It still drew the most fervent voters
pnwmom
Feb 2020
#99
There are only 6 states that still have caucuses, and 2 of them are featured among the first
pnwmom
Feb 2020
#102
It is dishonest to pretend his lifelong Socialist label won't matter on Election Day.
PubliusEnigma
Feb 2020
#2
Those who support Sanders are risking the future of our Nation on a Pipe Dream.
PubliusEnigma
Feb 2020
#47
Focus on Democracy before they steal a strong central government from you
bucolic_frolic
Feb 2020
#10
It appears you keep trying to change the topic to shoehorn favorite tweets into a thread.
ehrnst
Feb 2020
#16
Asked about their impression of socialism, 28% of adults said they have a favorable view, while 58%
ehrnst
Feb 2020
#14
The Far, Far, Far More Relevant Number Will Be How Former Republicans Will Vote In November
corbettkroehler
Feb 2020
#19
Since Sanders Is The Victim Of The Corruption You Alege, I'm More A Saint Than Merely Polite
corbettkroehler
Feb 2020
#81
Santimonious? Having Facts On My Side Makes Me The Victor, Just As Bernie Will Be (n/t)
corbettkroehler
Feb 2020
#84
Warren doesn't hand them ammunition like Bernie does. She firmly calls herself a capitalist.
pnwmom
Feb 2020
#54
Having been an elector and endorser in the Socialist Workers Party will be difficult for him to
ehrnst
Feb 2020
#11
It's terminology. "Socialist", "democratic socialist", and "social democrat" have fluid meanings.
DanTex
Feb 2020
#17
I think the problem is that those saying "WE WON'T VOTE FOR A SOCIALIST"
Cuthbert Allgood
Feb 2020
#31
His supporters may but the majority of GE voters won't vote for a socialist even if the word...
brush
Feb 2020
#39
Well, Sanders was very involved in the marxist Socialist Worker Party. Anyone who thinks
ehrnst
Feb 2020
#121
CNN-Bernie Sanders misled America. Voters aren't comfortable with a socialist President
Gothmog
Feb 2020
#41
That bell is not going to be unrung but I do not think Sanders or supporters care how that hurts
krissey
Feb 2020
#43
if 53 percent aren't willing to vote for a socialist then all Democrats are doomed
ibegurpard
Feb 2020
#51
Of course he supports a mixed economy? Then why doesn't he say what Warren does?
pnwmom
Feb 2020
#59
Look what they labeled Romney for voting against trump. We all know he's hardcore repub.
brutus smith
Feb 2020
#57
Do you believe Sanders is a Marxist who seeks state control of the means of production?
Fiendish Thingy
Feb 2020
#83
That won't help us to fight climate change-- which is the biggest battle in front of us now. nt
pnwmom
Feb 2020
#96
It's his brand, and if he's the nominee, it will be a brand smeared on the rest of the party, too. n
pnwmom
Feb 2020
#97
I'm getting closer and closer to picking Sanders as my choice - we need bold new ideas
walkingman
Feb 2020
#101
As the official operator of the Bernie Bandwagon, I would be happy to welcome you aboard!!
InAbLuEsTaTe
Feb 2020
#114
Democratic Socialists are SOCIALISTS. You can read all about it, and their support of Bernie,
pnwmom
Feb 2020
#110
Thanks for the second paragraph, proving that they're all about socialism, which is what you were
pnwmom
Feb 2020
#115
Why don't we stop branding ourselves as socialists when we know that will lose millions of
pnwmom
Feb 2020
#119
Everyone's participation in Bernie's political revolution is appreciated. It's a Big Tent...
InAbLuEsTaTe
Feb 2020
#118
Yeah be sure and get that memo to the media and trump campaign so they keep it straight.
HarlanPepper
Feb 2020
#111