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Congratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
Democratic Primaries
In reply to the discussion: Pete, what were you thinking? [View all]BumRushDaShow
(128,909 posts)314. In response
That's not at all what I wrote.
But it is what you summarized as the conclusion of your missive.
It's pretty much you wrote here -
I wrote what I wrote; not your skewed interpretation of what I wrote.
You "wrote" one set of info to start but then came up with a conclusion that left out a whole bunch of variables.
Democrats won in 2018, in a 'swing' election, in reaction to Trump.
What do you mean by "swing election"? It was a mid-term election that actually had some record turnout bringing about significant results in favor of the Democratic Party's embrace of a grassroots strategy - not just at the federal level but on down the ticket into the state and municipal elections. In essence, the 2018 turnout was unprecedented -
The 2018 midterms had the highest turnout since before World War I
How Trump made political engagement great again.
By Ella [email protected] Dec 10, 2018, 7:30am EST
Americans are more civically engaged than they have been in more than 100 years.
The two years between President Donald Trumps win in 2016 and the 2018 midterms ushered in a new era of political engagement in America, not seen since the early 1900s and the 1960s civil rights and anti-war movements.
That culminated in Novembers midterm elections. While House Democrats picked up 40 seats in a wave election (they didnt fare nearly as well in the Senate), an important number to focus on is the sheer number of people who voted in 2018, compared to past midterms.
50.1 percent of the voting-eligible population in the US turned out to cast their ballots in this years midterms, according to the United States Elections Project, a database about the United States electoral system run by University of Florida political science professor Michael McDonald. In raw numbers, that means 118,044,470 votes were cast.
The oft-mentioned "the party who controls the WH always loses seats in the mid-terms" "swing" suggestion is not always significant and usually includes a major drop in voter turnout. This past election had the opposite underlying effect of a record mid-year turnout.
The problem with that is that it can just as easily swing back the other way. We need sustained wins that are not dependent on how big of a failure the other party is. It's time to address the reality I laid out in my original comment. You can't run an "everything is great" campaign in an environment like that. Luckily our current crop of presidential candidates is, for the most part, getting that.
I don't disagree with that, but that is not what you were originally arguing. You pretty much dismissed what just happened 5 months ago and preferred to go back before the 2016 election with a dig, not even acknowledging any changes, and citing stats that are no longer up to date. There are grassroots orgs out there who are actually teaching people how to run for office and organize for candidates and these people are not GOPers. They are Democrats. They have put an infrastructure in place for the future and that is what will bolster getting votes out when it comes time for the top-of-the-ticket election in 2020.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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I agree, Cha. He's not thinking when he makes statements like that. Very disappointing.
highplainsdem
Mar 2019
#9
Mayor Pete disrespected Hillary for calling her Hillary?! Now, I've heard EVERYTHING!!
InAbLuEsTaTe
Mar 2019
#70
Well, that's for sure!! Love Mayor Pete... not surprised he's starting to get
InAbLuEsTaTe
Mar 2019
#183
There's still time! Don't give up hope! There's time for them all to be accused....
Honeycombe8
Mar 2019
#299
Zero, it's called the "Bernie treatment"...that's when a progressive begins to climb in the polls.
InAbLuEsTaTe
Mar 2019
#185
Yeah, he's a progressive who's kickin ass in the polls... therefore he's guilty!!
InAbLuEsTaTe
Mar 2019
#187
This is disgusting Cha. According to trump, the big peoblems in our economy and democracy were
lunamagica
Mar 2019
#25
"According to trump, the big peoblems in our economy and democracy were created by immigration and
Cha
Mar 2019
#29
Right, Cha. Saying that the quote is irrelevant bercause is a month old is laugahble
lunamagica
Mar 2019
#32
When people still claim HRC is racist because of a word she said in a speech decades ago,
betsuni
Mar 2019
#40
So you don't think Russia or voter suppression had anything to do with Trump getting elected?
ehrnst
Apr 2019
#304
I Totally Agree with You. I can hardly wait to see Pete debate Trump. Pure Comedy!
IndianaDave
Mar 2019
#82
Thanks for posting. I was disappointed to see some DUers jump on M. Pete and yank ...
SWBTATTReg
Mar 2019
#202
Am waiting to hear "establishment" -- will not be long if "centrist incrementalism"
betsuni
Mar 2019
#156
If your life was not great, if you were feeling disconnected and alienated (regardless of race,
Celerity
Mar 2019
#144
I live in NYS where "incrementalist" Democrat Andrew Cuomo delivered the $15/hr minimum wage,
lapucelle
Mar 2019
#153
Those aren't radical ideas nobody heard of before 2016 that needed a revolution to get done?
betsuni
Mar 2019
#162
If incrementalism is the main thrust, (and Buttigieg is no wild-eyed radical) then, seeing as
Celerity
Mar 2019
#171
that's tosh cherry-picking out one very small part of of the outcomes of his policies
Celerity
Mar 2019
#177
African American wages, housing ownership, wealth, employment rates all are up
Celerity
Mar 2019
#180
8 years? Turning around any city would take lots longer, believe me. You can't turn around...
SWBTATTReg
Mar 2019
#204
You've got it exactly right. This is another change election, for real this time.
marylandblue
Mar 2019
#223
Does the "costal elite" thing mean he thinks all of Calfornia is Silicon Valley?
Merlot
Mar 2019
#34
Trump repeatedly called himself a billionaire so clearly Pete was referring to him
dsc
Mar 2019
#164
Part of the premise of Pete's campaign is midwest appeal. To win back MI, WI, etc.
thesquanderer
Mar 2019
#274
Please point out where in the article in that twitter thread he mentions either Hillary or Obama
dsc
Mar 2019
#166
Not thinking everything Hillary did was perfect is throwing her under the bus? (n/t)
thesquanderer
Mar 2019
#273
Old tweet & 2 and a half month old article rehash, he has much more fully fleshed
Celerity
Mar 2019
#8
sure, here are some links, and in the videos he goes into this subject as well
Celerity
Mar 2019
#24
Those remarks sound like Repuke Talking points, so no, we don't 'like' them
whathehell
Mar 2019
#105
He is saying that social and economic dislocation causes more racism and extremism.
marylandblue
Mar 2019
#154
Republicans destroyed our economy, and Trump enboldened racists to come out in full force.
emulatorloo
Mar 2019
#251
+1. Trump has little to zero support among working-class or economically stressed nonwhites
dalton99a
Mar 2019
#199
Right, praising trump is a big yawn. Also trump based his campaign on xenophobia
lunamagica
Mar 2019
#22
complete misrepresentation, & in his multiplicity of articles and videos on here he has RIPPED Trump
Celerity
Mar 2019
#26
You know, there are better strategies than bashing Hillary. This is not the first time he does that
lunamagica
Mar 2019
#35
HE didnt bash Hillary, false meme, that has been tried before and exposed as false
Celerity
Mar 2019
#38
glad to hear nobody had economic anxieties in 2018. everything on twitter is true eh? nt
msongs
Mar 2019
#23
Even on this point, I'm not terribly bothered by the 'Trump tapped into rural $ anxiety' angle ...
mr_lebowski
Mar 2019
#36
I just ran through all the Twitter comments from this 2 month old tweet of a even older article
Celerity
Mar 2019
#33
He lost me tonight on Bill Maher when he played the "I'm a Christian" card, and said that
stopbush
Mar 2019
#49
I am an athiest to the bone, and I have no problem with his stance, which I think you
Celerity
Mar 2019
#51
Right-wing media convinced white working class people they were victims of liberals.
betsuni
Mar 2019
#66
For someone who thinks Democrats ran on being only against Trump, he sure talks a lot about Trump.
betsuni
Mar 2019
#74
Excellent observation. ".. "At least he didn't go around saying that America was already great, like
Cha
Mar 2019
#75
And, I have to add, as if LA, SF, Seattle, NYC, Miami and all other big cities aren't full of
betsuni
Mar 2019
#76
the largest Christian Groups in the US are African AMericans and Hispanics . but people always want
JI7
Mar 2019
#69
in his defense i think as a gay man he feels he has to go a bit futher to prove something and not
JI7
Mar 2019
#72
Obama did not propose that Ds be overt about their religion, using it as a ploy
stopbush
Mar 2019
#256
Most people in the country are religious, though. So he was saying, if you want to win....
Honeycombe8
Mar 2019
#300
He has been putting his foot in his mouth all week. He is out of my top 5 for sure. n/t
seaglass
Mar 2019
#77
yes it is, save for the fact it is misrepresentational, utterly devoid of context and a Twitter bot
Celerity
Mar 2019
#91
I have to pay to read the WP. Is there a link that shows the ENTIRE interview? I have
patricia92243
Mar 2019
#86
No, he does not. Maga was a dog whistle for misogyny, racism, and xenophobia. That;s why
lunamagica
Mar 2019
#214
There is proof. White voters who worried about the economy and jobs voted for Hillary
lunamagica
Mar 2019
#224
yet they voted for pro free trade republicans for senate instead of people like Feingold
JI7
Mar 2019
#248
True, Not Every Critique of a Female is Misogynistic-However Some Critiques Are Exactly Misogynistic
dlk
Mar 2019
#239
"That was my problem with many voters: I skipped the venting and went straight to the solving."
betsuni
Mar 2019
#104
Sure sounds this way...people are still sensitive about any ref to HRC it seems and that's okay. ...
SWBTATTReg
Mar 2019
#215
lol. 1st ppl praised him for his honesty until he said something they disagree with.
Kurt V.
Mar 2019
#146
My first reaction was "So what?" but I have reached the same conclusion as you.
The Velveteen Ocelot
Mar 2019
#174
So now he sucks because he had the temerity to mildly criticize Clinton?
The Velveteen Ocelot
Mar 2019
#170
Nah he sucks for lying about Hillary's campaign. She talked jobs, income inequality
emulatorloo
Mar 2019
#184
Praising Trump, lying about Hillary? Well Pete, I guess I can check you off the list.
emulatorloo
Mar 2019
#181
The dystopia Trump painted was false. And as you know Obama and Clinton were describing
emulatorloo
Mar 2019
#255
If Pete had replaced 3 of the words in his tweet with these 3 words, it would have made more sense
mtnsnake
Mar 2019
#275
Trump opens his mouth and out comes hours of demented nonsense and he's a master
betsuni
Mar 2019
#276