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HerbChestnut

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46. Taking a video out of context is not the same as 'doctoring' it.
Sun Jan 19, 2020, 12:39 PM
Jan 2020

'Doctoring' would imply using some kind of software to alter the contents of the video, like photoshop but for videos. The Sanders campaign clipped that Brookings Institute video to fit a narrative, yes. That was a bad move on their part, but it's not 'doctoring'. Although it should be said, later in that same speech Biden said Social Security and Medicare would need "adjustments", which is political speak for cuts, but whatever. There's plenty of other videos of Biden saying he would cut Social Security and Medicare. Here's a few:

https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4843746/user-clip-biden-freezing-social-security


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And here's a snippet of a transcript from a Meet the Press interview when Biden was running for President in 2007.

MR. RUSSERT: But, senator, we have a deficit. We have Social Security and Medicare looming. The number of people on Social Security and Medicare is now 40 million people. It’s going to be 80 million in 15 years. Would you consider looking at those programs, age of eligibility...

SEN. BIDEN: Absolutely.

MR. RUSSERT: ...cost of living, put it all on the table.

SEN. BIDEN: The answer is absolutely. You have to. You know, it’s—one of the things that my, you know, the political advisers say to me is, “Whoa, don’t touch that third”—look, the American people aren’t stupid. It’s a real simple proposition. We have to do—you and I were talking about Bob Dole earlier. I was one of five people—I was the junior guy in the meeting with Bob Dole and George Mitchell when we put Social Security on the right path for 60 years. I’ll never forget what Bob Dole said. After we reached an agreement about gradually raising the retirement age, etc., he said, “Look, here’s the deal, we all put our foot in the boat one at a time.” And he kicked—he stepped like he was stepping into a boat. “And we all make the following deal. If any one of the challengers running against the incumbent Democrat or Republicans attack us on this point, we’ll all stay together.” That’s the kind of leadership that is needed. Social Security’s not the hard one to solve. Medicare, that is the gorilla in the room, and you’ve got to put all of it on the table.

MR. RUSSERT: Everything.

SEN. BIDEN: Everything. You’ve got to.


Full transcript here: http://www.nbcnews.com/id/18381961/ns/meet_the_press/t/mtp-transcript-april/#.XiSAg4h7mUk

The video the Sanders campaign clipped may have been taken out of context, but it's not the only video out there of Biden wanting to cut Social Security and Medicare. There are examples across his entire 40 year political history.
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Quoting a five year old article about Ben Carson? sweetloukillbot Jan 2020 #1
Yeah HerbChestnut Jan 2020 #2
I think the bigger point might be that -- NEVER HAPPENED (nt) stopdiggin Jan 2020 #10
And it's a damn good thing that never happened, despite Joe's best efforts. HerbChestnut Jan 2020 #12
I wonder if Sanders is proud of his campaign...I expect this will backfire...and Biden will be up Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #27
It's not lying to point out Biden's spotty record on Social Security. HerbChestnut Jan 2020 #32
Ted Kennedy had 89% so...who cares...and it is a lie when you change the meaning of a video...but Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #37
Taking a video out of context is not the same as 'doctoring' it. HerbChestnut Jan 2020 #46
They created a lie by doctoring the video...cut parts of it...liars (Sirota) gotta lie...I guess... Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #60
Hopefully no Democratic candidate now advocates for budget freezes. David__77 Jan 2020 #3
That information is currently freely available, if one really wants to know. nt fleabiscuit Jan 2020 #18
You don't have to hope...could actually look up their positions rather ...spoiler, no one does... Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #38
The desperation is showing Thekaspervote Jan 2020 #4
Agree. The attacks are getting old. 33taw Jan 2020 #5
Yes, they are. vsrazdem Jan 2020 #7
They are more than old enough... kind of reminded me of someone. Irony. fleabiscuit Jan 2020 #19
Attacks on social security are getting old. Like 30 years old. Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2020 #23
Biden did not attack Social Security. 33taw Jan 2020 #30
yup whistler162 Jan 2020 #25
Pretty much...if we can weather this toss Trump out...Sanders won't be running again so this is Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #28
So many threads on this fake news today NYMinute Jan 2020 #6
Social Security spending is mandatory (non-discretionary). OilemFirchen Jan 2020 #8
The video linked in the OP shows Biden specifically mentioning Social Security... HerbChestnut Jan 2020 #13
Facts don't matter... only that Bernie is the bad guy in all this!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #14
Sign stealing in baseball is nothing new. nt fleabiscuit Jan 2020 #20
True, just like stealin Bernie's progressive policy positions...rather have Bern, the true original! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #51
True, true... fleabiscuit Jan 2020 #69
Frozen does not seem to equal cut. My government pension was frozen. Different from cut. 33taw Jan 2020 #34
Right, the doctored video...the one that is a pack of lies...put out by Sirota...yeah that one. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #39
Nope!! Thekaspervote Jan 2020 #9
This tweet and the contents of my post are unrelated to each other. HerbChestnut Jan 2020 #11
Sure Thekaspervote Jan 2020 #15
As relevant as a 5-year-old article about Ben Carson nt sweetloukillbot Jan 2020 #26
You claim that Biden is gunning for social security and Medicare. bluedye33139 Jan 2020 #36
The off-site bro's are working to get Trump elected again. nt fleabiscuit Jan 2020 #16
Smidge different... fleabiscuit Jan 2020 #17
The article did not deny he said what he said on the congress floor. mucifer Jan 2020 #21
One can watch what he said too. fleabiscuit Jan 2020 #50
Biden rips Sanders campaign for Social Security attacks Sloumeau Jan 2020 #22
Just freezing the entire budget is not smart. No idea why anyone would get behind this. redqueen Jan 2020 #24
Everyone had to pretend to be open to the idea...we were even further to the right than now. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #29
Who created the C-SPAN clip (dated January 7, 2020) that's used in the OP? lapucelle Jan 2020 #31
That politifact article was about one specific video clip. HerbChestnut Jan 2020 #33
The Politifact article was about something Biden said that was taken completely out of context lapucelle Jan 2020 #44
The Sanders campaign has distorted and misrepresented both Warren and Biden. still_one Jan 2020 #41
I never noticed that...guess I gave the Sanders campaign to much credit...wasn't looking for Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #42
No wonder Joe Biden is concerned that the BS campaign is "doctoring videos". N/T lapucelle Jan 2020 #45
Very true...thanks. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #58
Here's video of the entirety of that speech: OilemFirchen Jan 2020 #49
Thanks, I will watch it. jalan48 Jan 2020 #59
He talked about working with Republicans on balancing the budget. jalan48 Jan 2020 #62
He was talking about the Balanced Budget Amendment. OilemFirchen Jan 2020 #64
He supported it along with the Republicans. jalan48 Jan 2020 #65
Along with thirteen other Democrats. OilemFirchen Jan 2020 #66
I see it differently but agree about the huge hair. I'm willing to work for whoever our nominee is jalan48 Jan 2020 #67
Thanks...Sirota's lips are moving so he is lying...what a snake. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #61
Biden did not propose freezing social security and Medicare. bluedye33139 Jan 2020 #35
Joes Plan...read it.... Iamaartist Jan 2020 #40
F'ing Ohio set the primary date for March 17th ...St. Patrick's day...this will cause all sorts of Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #43
Ours is in Mich Iamaartist Jan 2020 #48
We do...every vote. Ohio is a state that has open primaries so the right will be voting for Sanders Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #53
lol, the federal budget can be "frozen" without "cutting medicare or SS." beachbumbob Jan 2020 #47
I knew Bernie was involved. katmondoo Jan 2020 #52
Me too. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #54
That's a nice sound bite but the issue is much more complex than that. totodeinhere Jan 2020 #55
SS and Medicare are not budget line items Recursion Jan 2020 #56
I cannot wait for this election to be over. LaurenOlimina Jan 2020 #57
This crap only makes Democrats more convinced that Sanders must never be the nominee. The Valley Below Jan 2020 #63
No it doesn't. The federal budget has many items in it. nt Blue_true Jan 2020 #68
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