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Congratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
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In reply to the discussion: In defense of Tulsi Gabbard, a little [View all]hlthe2b
(102,575 posts)40. I'm not advocating the argument either way, but an "asset" is not the same as an "agent"
There is a very important difference and one you really need to research. I am about to jump in the shower for work, but I do urge you to do so. To know the difference is to realize your argument is not valid even if you continue to support Gabbard and believe she is getting an unfair appraisal.
You can start with this Malcolm Nance illustration vis a vis Trump and Russia:
https://www.salon.com/2018/07/09/malcolm-nance-on-trump-were-on-the-cusp-of-losing-the-american-constitutional-republic-forever/
Q:Trump has been on Fox News and elsewhere joking about Putin and Russia's interference in the 2016 election. Is he a "useful idiot" for Putin's spies? Or is Trump actually afraid of being caught by Robert Mueller and his behavior reflects that? Either way, he is acting like a guilty person.
Nance: [I've] certainly been pretty vocal on this point. "Useful idiot" is a technical term. Its a person who is an unwilling dupe, who through their own actions helps your cause. I think Trump started out as a useful idiot when it came to selling apartments and getting money from Russians who were liquidating their assets from the Soviet Union. I think he then became a willing asset when they started using him when he wanted to run for president. Trump knows everything is being done in his benefit. He is one step from being an agent. We may find out with Donald Trump that is the case. Who knows?
Nance: [I've] certainly been pretty vocal on this point. "Useful idiot" is a technical term. Its a person who is an unwilling dupe, who through their own actions helps your cause. I think Trump started out as a useful idiot when it came to selling apartments and getting money from Russians who were liquidating their assets from the Soviet Union. I think he then became a willing asset when they started using him when he wanted to run for president. Trump knows everything is being done in his benefit. He is one step from being an agent. We may find out with Donald Trump that is the case. Who knows?
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I'm not advocating the argument either way, but an "asset" is not the same as an "agent"
hlthe2b
Dec 2019
#40
Nobody said she was a Russian agent. It's Russean "asset" and doesn't require her cooperation. nt
LAS14
Dec 2019
#46
Exactly, it's not partisan to side with rule of law and the U.S. Constitution /nt
bucolic_frolic
Dec 2019
#13
Not to mention she attacks the Democratic Party and fellow Democrats CONSTANTLY
hlthe2b
Dec 2019
#17
F - for trying to turn the Star Wars prequel trilogy into an analogy for something important.
Act_of_Reparation
Dec 2019
#27
She voted "present" on the impeachment vote last night... need anyone say anymore??!!
Thekaspervote
Dec 2019
#29
she didn;t want to piss off Puti, trumpo/gop who will fund her 3rd party run
beachbumbob
Dec 2019
#30