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Congratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
Democratic Primaries
In reply to the discussion: Clinton still 'disappointed' Sanders held off on endorsing her in 2016 [View all]Gothmog
(145,965 posts)35. if sanders is held to under 300 delegates, then the next national convention may be okay
I was a delegate to the Philadelphia convention and saw how the process works. One key item is that under the rules, a candidate cannot be put into nomination without 300 delegates. https://democrats.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/2020-Call-for-Convention-WITH-Attachments-2.26.19.pdf
Nomination of the Democratic Candidate for President: The Permanent Chair shall receive nominations from the floor for the Democratic candidate for the Office of President of the United
States in the following manner:
a. Requests to nominate a presidential candidate shall be in writing and shall have affixed thereto the written approval of the proposed nominee and the name of the individuals who shall be recognized to make the nominating and seconding speeches on behalf of a presidential candidate and shall be delivered to the Convention Secretary at a location as specified by the Secretary no later than 6:00 p.m. of the day preceding the day designated for the commencement of presidential nominations.
b. Each such request must be accompanied by a petition indicating support for the proposed nominee signed by delegates representing not less than 300 or more than 600 delegate votes, not more than 50 of which may come from one (1) delegation. A delegate may not sign more than one (1) nominating petition for president and for vice president. Pledged and automatic delegates may sign the petition.
States in the following manner:
a. Requests to nominate a presidential candidate shall be in writing and shall have affixed thereto the written approval of the proposed nominee and the name of the individuals who shall be recognized to make the nominating and seconding speeches on behalf of a presidential candidate and shall be delivered to the Convention Secretary at a location as specified by the Secretary no later than 6:00 p.m. of the day preceding the day designated for the commencement of presidential nominations.
b. Each such request must be accompanied by a petition indicating support for the proposed nominee signed by delegates representing not less than 300 or more than 600 delegate votes, not more than 50 of which may come from one (1) delegation. A delegate may not sign more than one (1) nominating petition for president and for vice president. Pledged and automatic delegates may sign the petition.
If sanders is frozen out of enough states due to the 15% rule and remaining non-Biden delegates are split among several candidates, there is a chance that sanders may not reach 300 threshold There are a number of states in the south where Biden may pick up most of the delegates due to the 15% rule
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Clinton still 'disappointed' Sanders held off on endorsing her in 2016 [View all]
brooklynite
Dec 2019
OP
Yet there are so many more significant things that contributed to her loss.
thesquanderer
Dec 2019
#212
Right. A large contingent booing at the convention had no effect on public perception at all.
Squinch
Dec 2019
#213
You might have footing if it wasn't lost by a razors edge. But I don't think you do. nt
fleabiscuit
Dec 2019
#280
Razor's edge means that perhaps any ONE of those many things could have made a difference.
thesquanderer
Dec 2019
#291
if sanders is held to under 300 delegates, then the next national convention may be okay
Gothmog
Dec 2019
#35
Yeah, that is my hope that Biden wins so decisively that Bernie and his supporters give in.
honest.abe
Dec 2019
#40
Yes! He's already publicly stated he "wasn't sure" if he would endorse EW should she win the nom
Thekaspervote
Dec 2019
#48
The Bernie resentment of Hillary's win helped the Russians influence his supporters
Darwin2019
Dec 2019
#71
Yeah, and one would think they, the Bernie supporters, as "fellow Democrats", would do the same.
honest.abe
Dec 2019
#126
I'm very suspicious of those numbers. I don't know a single HRC supporter who didn't vote for Obama
LisaM
Dec 2019
#254
Whatever the reason, it shows how ridiculous all the continuing effort to blame Bernie is.
redqueen
Dec 2019
#258
Well, if one considers a woman speaking her mind about a man when asked "ammo,"
ehrnst
Dec 2019
#324
Other Democratic politicians are praised for negative statments about other Democratic politicians
ehrnst
Dec 2019
#270
Ha true. For some people, Hillary criticizing Bernie over this is fine and dandy.
redqueen
Dec 2019
#283
Apparently she's supposed to keep her mouth shut about what she observed in the last election.
ehrnst
Dec 2019
#268
To those who think she should disappear, any public utterance is "putting herself in the spotlight."
ehrnst
Dec 2019
#282
I would posit that there are Dem politicians who are expending far, far more energy
ehrnst
Dec 2019
#271
"Whiny?" Really? DU is full of posts praising Democratic politicians who seek out the spotlight
ehrnst
Dec 2019
#269
So true... same can be said about Hillary's mulling a THIRD run, BASED ON HER OWN WORDS.
InAbLuEsTaTe
Dec 2019
#60
You are chosing to intrepret her words in a way that allows you to criticize her.
StevieM
Dec 2019
#91
LOL!! Of course, it's ALWAYS Bernie's fault!! Who else could be responsible?!
InAbLuEsTaTe
Dec 2019
#159
She's a brilliant, accomplished woman with LOTS to say, and she's free to do whatever she wants.
George II
Dec 2019
#83
'All that is in the past, there's no reason to rehash issues from past elections.
redqueen
Dec 2019
#84
And if she didn't say anything, people would be demanding to know "Where is Hillary?!"
StarfishSaver
Dec 2019
#97
Sanders doesn't deserve all the blame. Donna Brazile flat out said it was rigged.
redqueen
Dec 2019
#235
Me too!! Voters need to be aware! Especially since we may be headed in the same direction
Thekaspervote
Dec 2019
#51
what is the point of regurgitating these fractious right wing hit pieces?
getagrip_already
Dec 2019
#5
sanders refused to try to control his delegates and so DNC had to use Sarah Silverman/Al Franken
Gothmog
Dec 2019
#298
The conduct of the sanders delegates at the convention hurt the Clinton general election effort
Gothmog
Dec 2019
#200
Hillary is still fighting the last election. We don't even want DUers to keep it up.
JoeOtterbein
Dec 2019
#53
Because he's making the same noises this time! Says he doesn't know if he will support EW if
Thekaspervote
Dec 2019
#70
Hillary should have made a positive statement about all our candidates instead.
JoeOtterbein
Dec 2019
#100
Telling her what she should say with that voice is the same as trying to silence her.
MrsCoffee
Dec 2019
#247
Things like that reveal more about the endorser than the endorsee, no matter who he (or she) may be.
NurseJackie
Dec 2019
#46
Yes, Sanders' slow begrudging endorsement is why Sander is still on my S---List
Darwin2019
Dec 2019
#58
this really pisses me off. not to mention her utter lack of cognition about what happened
Kurt V.
Dec 2019
#69
I'm a bit partial to sanders so i might have been harsh. but a howard stern interview? lol.
Kurt V.
Dec 2019
#289
his external supporters and paid goons will try and do it again, all the signs are there
Celerity
Dec 2019
#161
But the last primary election was held on June 14th so the primaries were over.
betsuni
Dec 2019
#190
She wanted him to recognize her victory, the same way he recognized Obama's
LongtimeAZDem
Dec 2019
#281
Scabs would assume there was healing. As long as Trump is in office there will be no healing. n/t
seaglass
Dec 2019
#256
I share your hopes JudyM, nothing good comes from refighting the '16 primaries
Devil Child
Dec 2019
#198
Why on earth would Hillary Clinton want to participate in an interview with Howard Stern?
democrank
Dec 2019
#202
I hope people saw the ENTIRE interview this morning or the extended excerpts....
George II
Dec 2019
#208
If Sanders had given Clinton his immediate and enthusiastic support and urged his supporters to
Doodley
Dec 2019
#228
The only standard is Democratic candidates should lose gracefully and unequivocally back the winner.
Doodley
Dec 2019
#239
Past is prologue, unless we learn from it. I hope very much that Sanders learned about unity...
Hekate
Dec 2019
#249
Bernie Sanders was a man who ran a bad campaign who lost and tried to have a brokered convention.
boston bean
Dec 2019
#294
At the high end, maybe 12% of Sanders supporters voted Trump, almost a quarter of Clinton supporters
Humanist_Activist
Dec 2019
#296
It is true that some Hillary Clinton supporters ended up voting for McCain in 2008
Sloumeau
Dec 2019
#323
In the the same article I linked, it showed the same pattern, apparently over half the Sanders...
Humanist_Activist
Dec 2019
#328
This is exactly why I am so anti-Bernie this time around, after voting for him in 2016.
Chemisse
Dec 2019
#307
We shouldn't even be in that position; he should not have been allowed to run as a Democrat
LongtimeAZDem
Dec 2019
#309
If it had come right after the primaries, with a genuine effort to get behind the candidate,
LongtimeAZDem
Dec 2019
#336