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BlueMTexpat

(15,369 posts)
Tue Oct 15, 2019, 08:27 AM Oct 2019

ELIZABETH WARREN IS BEGINNING TO WIN THE ELECTABILITY ARGUMENT [View all]

Note: The headline is in all caps. I merely copied it. Please don't react negatively simply due to that.

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Warren is single-handedly shifting the conversation among Democrats about whether a woman can win. New research finds voters are still spooked by the ultimate glass ceiling—but they also think that Warren might be the one to break through.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/10/elizabeth-warren-winning-the-electability-argument

The emergence of Elizabeth Warren as a frontrunner for the Democratic presidential nomination has been the story of the 2020 primary. Warren has steadily climbed in the polls, the only Democrat who is assembling a broad coalition voters and growing her support, an obvious indicator of future success. She has parried attacks from her rivals and largely avoided tough questions from the press. Her golden retriever has more Twitter followers than Joe Sestak, who is an actual presidential candidate. Since the beginning of the cycle, Warren has been rewarded for her bold positions and the simple fact that she has a clear point of view that allows her to be on offense every day. No other Democratic campaign can say the same.

But what’s remarkable about Warren’s rise, and her durability, is that it’s coming in the face of considerable headwinds blowing within the Democratic electorate. According to new findings from the progressive research firm Avalanche on the subject of “electability,” Democrats are haunted by the state of the country under Donald Trump and deeply worried about their ability to beat him next year with a woman on top of the ticket. Avalanche found that 53% of likely Democratic primary voters say it is “Harder” or “Much Harder” for a female candidate to defeat Trump. But in spite of those worries, Warren is also now perceived as more electable than she was in June, when Avalanche last conducted a survey on electability.

“There is persistent belief that gender is a barrier to electability, even though people are choosing Warren,” said Michiah Prull, the CEO of Avalanche. “Gender being a barrier is a view held as much by Warren supporters as anyone else. But what we are really seeing in Warren’s rise is that people recognize that gender is a challenge, but people also think she is up for it, and that she can overcome this barrier. Democrats are worried about winning. And at the same time you have a bunch of people saying, ‘Let’s support a bold female candidate with bold progressive ideas, someone who presents optimistic views in the face of a dark view of the country.’”
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Warren’s ascent is coming despite nagging worries among Democrats about electability and gender. In the survey, among the segment of respondents who selected a man for the horse race, but shifted to a female candidate when given a magic wand, 78% reported believing it is “Harder” or “Much Harder” for a female candidate to defeat Trump. Predictably, among these Democrats, almost no respondents cited any kind of personal bias or sexism. Instead, 62% reported believing that others are much less or less likely to vote for a female candidate. “Above all, the belief that women are hard to elect is most closely tied to how voters perceive their fellow citizens,” Avalanche wrote in a memo about their findings. As in June, when Avalanche first conducted an electability survey, women were more likely than men to cite gender as a concern in the general election.


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MUCH more at the link. This is a very interesting article.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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This is all before Trump smears her Yoopy Oct 2019 #1
That's going to happen no matter who the candidate is durablend Oct 2019 #3
BINGO!! InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #9
Because this would never happen to a man. we can do it Oct 2019 #36
You're implying that she will stay just as electable as she is today Yoopy Oct 2019 #43
It took more time to type the "note" TidalWave46 Oct 2019 #2
Almost anyone can win, but especially Elizabeth... and Bernie. Together, they're unstoppable. InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #10
Hard to take you seriously with that Bernie comment. TidalWave46 Oct 2019 #11
For real. bearsfootball516 Oct 2019 #34
By your strange logic, all the Biden supporters should give up on their candidate... InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #39
That doesn't make any sense. TidalWave46 Oct 2019 #41
LMAO! You obviously didn't read, or ignored, what I said in response to your post...good try though! InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #47
I would say the same if I had nothing to back up my point. TidalWave46 Oct 2019 #49
Rinse... repeat. Too funny!! I agree with you though, as it applies to Joe. InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #50
This! EW if and I say it's still a big if wins the nomination she will need a younger VP Thekaspervote Oct 2019 #56
You don't think she would pick a 79 yo who just had a heart attack? TidalWave46 Oct 2019 #58
You are spot on! IMO, of course. CTyankee Oct 2019 #42
I think that would be great get the red out Oct 2019 #53
Ah well, BlueMTexpat Oct 2019 #13
I read the headline just like I would any other. TidalWave46 Oct 2019 #20
Good for you BlueMTexpat Oct 2019 #23
For the moment. As Yoopy says, but I believe she'll plateau Hortensis Oct 2019 #4
I don't know.. cannabis_flower Oct 2019 #5
Yes. The midterms showed that happening. :) Hortensis Oct 2019 #6
If that's true... Boomer Oct 2019 #7
She is conforming somewhat to FDR's "from within the establishment," Hortensis Oct 2019 #12
It's funny how Warren gets cast as the bogeyman Boomer Oct 2019 #40
I wanted her to run in 2016. She was no bogeyman at all, Hortensis Oct 2019 #45
Agree but don't think the nation sees her as the "stability candidate" offering a return to Thekaspervote Oct 2019 #59
:) Only compared perhaps to Sanders, and I expect that's Hortensis Oct 2019 #61
Perhaps. BlueMTexpat Oct 2019 #15
Everyone knows how the right thinks. It's no protection. Hortensis Oct 2019 #17
You're right. BlueMTexpat Oct 2019 #18
True enough, and we definitely agree it will be very interesting. Hortensis Oct 2019 #31
Here's my hope: that Sanders realizes he cannot reverse the effects of age on his condition and CTyankee Oct 2019 #44
:) I think he hasn't changed his rigid self in Hortensis Oct 2019 #46
Geez, what a self centered old coot he is! CTyankee Oct 2019 #51
:) Message taken, candidate discarded. It worked out. Hortensis Oct 2019 #55
Thank you.. very good break down of the facts Thekaspervote Oct 2019 #57
This message was self-deleted by its author elocs Oct 2019 #8
She's pretty much avoided being BlueMTexpat Oct 2019 #16
As to that point I physically got a twinge when I read this line in the original article pecosbob Oct 2019 #32
It is difficult for BlueMTexpat Oct 2019 #66
This message was self-deleted by its author elocs Oct 2019 #37
Of course get the red out Oct 2019 #54
She'll have my vote! ananda Oct 2019 #14
Mine too!! Either Elizabeth or Bernie (or both) works for me!! InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #48
For me the question is not electability, it's RE-ELECTABILITY !!! Otto Lidenbrock Oct 2019 #19
One step at a time. BlueMTexpat Oct 2019 #21
I was talking about Joe Biden Otto Lidenbrock Oct 2019 #22
Sorry for my confusion! BlueMTexpat Oct 2019 #24
No problem Otto Lidenbrock Oct 2019 #29
More like A++ for Elizabeth & C for Joe seems fair. InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #62
Her plans haven't really been vetted as yet. It will start to happen FloridaBlues Oct 2019 #25
Yes, we will. eom BlueMTexpat Oct 2019 #26
The vetting you mention will only increase Elizabeth's support and decrease Joe's... just watch. InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #63
We should start gaming out the election lapfog_1 Oct 2019 #27
EW among Dems is not the issue. The problems now and in the past, empedocles Oct 2019 #28
She IS already seen favorably BlueMTexpat Oct 2019 #30
These are the same arguments made for Sanders, Hillary, Obama - empedocles Oct 2019 #35
What electability argument? It was less than four years ago we elected a woman... TreasonousBastard Oct 2019 #33
+1000 Thekaspervote Oct 2019 #60
Shouldn't the Democratic Party's strategy be to win the EC? I mean, that's how you win after all... InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #64
It's been everybody's strategy for over 200 years... TreasonousBastard Oct 2019 #68
If Warren is the nominee, then Texas will not be a battleground state Gothmog Oct 2019 #38
Thx for all your hard work Thekaspervote Oct 2019 #65
After that "he should only marry one woman" quip... polichick Oct 2019 #52
... BlueMTexpat Oct 2019 #67
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