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Celerity

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21. I am always talking about the Senate, especially the big guns who are turning down running
Fri Aug 23, 2019, 04:29 AM
Aug 2019

Last edited Fri Aug 23, 2019, 07:13 AM - Edit history (6)

in most every one of the 12 possible flippable States.

Here is my completely up to date, most detailed post yet on the state of the races.

We need a plus 4 net to flip the Senate to a 51-49 Dem advantage (so no power sharing agreements needed at all) as it stands, and a plus 5 net if Paedo Moore is not the Rethug Alabama nominee (and even that bastard will be hard for Jones to beat in a POTUS year in Alabama) and we lose Doug Jones. We should absolute hold all our other seats. Jeanne Shaheen in NH is the only one that is probably not a 99% lock, with the Rethugs choosing between Don Bolduc, former U.S. Army brigadier general, Bill O'Brien, former Speaker of the New Hampshire House of Representatives, Kelly Ayotte, former U.S. Senator and former Attorney General of New Hampshire, Scott 'Pickup' Brown, U.S. Ambassador to New Zealand and Samoa, former U.S. Senator from Massachusetts, and 2014 Republican nominee for U.S. Senate from New Hampshire, and the lunatic Rump stooge (and Hope Hicks' ex BF/verbal abuser), Corey Lewandowski. Bolduc and Ayotte are probably their best shots there (with Bolduc worrying me the most), but I feel really good about our chances to hold it, due to Rump being between 11 and 17 points (depending on the poll) underwater overall in NH.


These are all the remotely possible races where we can flip, all 12 of them. Some are very much a stretch, and also we are having a lot of big names refuse to run, in fact, all the arguably best candidates in 10 of the 12 states have all refused, so far, to run.


These are the only 2 states ATM with our strongest possible candidates running:

Arizona (Mark Kelly has a great chance at beating McSally. This was (until Hickenlooper got smart) the only state so far that we had the best potential candidate already running.)

Colorado Hickenlooper now running makes it 90-95% that we flip this. Even if you do not think he is the best on policy, he still is the most electable. All I ask is that he knocks it off with the red-baiting (saying progressives are bringing back Stalin and Marx's policies), which is asinine and plays into the fucking Rethug's hands.


Now the ones who do NOT have our strongest candidates running as of yet:


Alaska (I hope Mark Begich, our ex US Senator there, runs versus Sullivan, he has said he was not, but now may change his mind.) If Begich ends up completely declining, then it will probably be between Ethan Berkowitz, the mayor of Anchorage, and Forrest Dunbar, Anchorage assemblyman and nominee for Alaska's at-large congressional district in 2014.

Maine (Susan Rice, who has said no quite emphatically, would have been the best to knock out the POS hypocrite Collins IMHO, but hopefully we can find another great one, it looks likely to be Sara Gideon atm, I think Gideon can take out Collins, just was more sure on Rice, but she is not going to run.)

Montana (The most glaring one, probably, grrrr as Bullock is basically the only one of ours who would have a great chance at beating Daines, I think Bullock would defeat him, but he has said dozens of times he will not run, I just heard him say it again today. Only redeemable way this works is if Biden makes him his VP pick, which I fully support, as that ticket is the hardest to attack for Rump and the Rethugs.) I think we MIGHT have a shot if Brian Schweitzer changes his mind and runs.

Tennessee (open Rethug seat, due to Alexander retiring, I so hope Tim McGraw (yes the superstar singer, who say for years he would run when he was 50, and he is 52 now) reconsiders his turndown, he would have the best shot from all I have seen, most of the other candidates we have are already one time losers, some just last year, or pretty unknown. The two I see who are the best should McGraw not change his mind are Jeff Yarbro and James Mackler)

Georgia (Stacey Abrams and Sally Yates would have had the best chances by far to beat Perdue, but each one has said no over and over, so it is going to be much harder I fear, even though Perdue is weak, and a shit campaigner. So far it looks like the best of the rest are Teresa Tomlinson and perhaps Jon Ossoff )

Kansas (open Rethug seat due to Roberts retiring, the right candidate for us has a shot, maybe Kathleen Sebelius, but she also just said no, and a big local paper says that really hurts our chances This is a carbon copy of Montana, just swap in Sebelius for Bullock, its a Red state and all the insiders say she is only Dem who can win.)

Iowa (Cindy Axne and Vilsack, probably our 2 best chances to beat Ernst, both have declined to run, but I have hope we can find another great candidate, Theresa Greenfield or Abby Finkenauer look to be the best of the rest, thsi is like Maine to me)

North Carolina (our two best candidates by far, Foxx and Stein, have both said no, grrr, I so hope one, especially Foxx, re-considers) Tillis is so ripe for the picking if we get one of those 2 to run, and still may have a shot if it is another, Cal Cunningham perhaps, or Erica Smith, but both will have a harder time that Stein or Foxx would have had. This one is so so irritating me.

now the two wishful thinking states:

Kentucky This is probably the 2nd toughest. Andy Beshear might have had a shot at dumping McTurtle, but he is running for Governor, Amy McGrath is who we are going to have to roll with, and it is not impossible, due to McConnell being truly hated even by some Rethugs, his overall approval numbers are worse than Rump by far, amongst the bottom in all the Senate. Overall a huge reach, but so hope Moscow Mitch goes DOWN. McGrath needs to make no more errors like the one she did right at kickoff (saying she would have voted yes for Kavanaugh for SCOTUS. The same thing crushed Bredeson in TN in 2018, so depressed our base turnout.)

Texas Cornyn in Texas is the toughest reach, IMHO, even if Beto runs (which I doubt he will.) Cornyn is streets ahead of Cruz in terms of TX popularity. I like Amanda Edwards a lot, I hope she wins the Primary, but, I do not see a pathway to anyone beating Cornyn unless something massive breaks our way.


We would need to win FIVE of those 12 to flip it to 51-49 IF Jones goes down in Alabama, and only CO is even close to one that I would say is a pretty good chance to label a semi-lock, and some are just downright so so hard, even if the best candidates change their minds and run. My true target is 6 flips, so we are at 52-48, and thus negate Manchin and Sinema, who vote with the Rethugs 55% of the time, far more than any other Democratic Senators. I SO hope Hickenlooper does not become the 3rd member of that posse, lolol.

Schumer and Cortez Masto have been so poor at recruiting the best candidates, it is one of the biggest stories of 2020 so far. I am going to give up on pulling the people who I think are strongest in ME, IA, (those two I can be happy with who we have) TX, and KY. We just have to roll with who we have there now. AZ and CO now have our best possible, so that leaves:

AK (Begich run!)
MT (Bullock run! or if he is VP, or if he refuses, Schweitzer run!)
TN (McGraw run!)
KS (Sebelius run!)
NC (Foxx and/or Stein run!)
GA (Abrams run! or Yates run! if Abrams is the VP or refuses still)

IF all those above change their minds and run, I can say, with at least 55% or more confidence, we will hit at least 6 flips, and maybe, IF Rump just gets crushed, win 10 of the 12, and if he goes down with (my biggest possible EC count giving us EVERY remotely possible EV) we may get all 12, plus keep Jones. If that happened we would have 59 seats, so one seat shy of a filibusterer proof majority, and one of the dead Red lock states is by far the best bet there to grab the magic number 60, that being Mike Rounds in SD going down, hopefully to ex Senator Tim Johnson's son, Brendan Johnson. The max possible EC victory count by the way, that paved the way for a 12 out of 12 sweep plus Jones holding and SD even maybe flipped, was our Dem POTUS nominee 472 - Rump 66. A girl can dream!


If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
This is a good point...I think there is way too much policy in this primary...you should run on a Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #1
I find the elaborate policy proposals and plans dizzying. Promoting and defending them obscures emmaverybo Aug 2019 #5
Well said wasupaloopa Aug 2019 #8
K&R Thanks for posting. Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #2
Few want to acknowledge this, but all of our candidates would, more or less, govern the same way. Garrett78 Aug 2019 #3
Right. They have the same rolodex Recursion Aug 2019 #9
I never get that about presidential elections jberryhill Aug 2019 #4
Politics is always local Lithos Aug 2019 #6
according the the 2nd best rachel on Lawrence o'Donnell JI7 Aug 2019 #7
It's more about giving voters a sense what you will fight for BeyondGeography Aug 2019 #10
I've never understood what "fight" means in this context Recursion Aug 2019 #11
So you don't know why we talk about policy and you don't understand what fighting for people means BeyondGeography Aug 2019 #12
So, can you tell me what "fight" means? Recursion Aug 2019 #13
Ask the author of "This Fight is our Fight" BeyondGeography Aug 2019 #14
So, you can't, then. Got it. Recursion Aug 2019 #15
I support her because she's a most knowledgeable and competent fighter BeyondGeography Aug 2019 #16
So, you can't say what "fight" means, but your diagnosis is that the party has lacked it? Recursion Aug 2019 #17
Oh, and spine, you need a definition for that, too? BeyondGeography Aug 2019 #18
So, is it that she appears angry on TV? Recursion Aug 2019 #19
is that how you win fights with your spouse? rampartc Aug 2019 #27
No, that's my point Recursion Aug 2019 #29
It's like in reality tv cooking contest shows. betsuni Aug 2019 #20
I am always talking about the Senate, especially the big guns who are turning down running Celerity Aug 2019 #21
I heard rumors about Pingree stepping up in maine Recursion Aug 2019 #22
ATM I think Gideon will be our nominee against Collins. Which Pingree btw? Celerity Aug 2019 #23
Hannah was the buzz I heard a while back Recursion Aug 2019 #28
Thanks Celerity, for your informative check list of our senate possibilities. oasis Aug 2019 #24
yw! Celerity Aug 2019 #25
I wonder if Celerity could compose a treatise on any political topic? True Dough Aug 2019 #26
I was tossing it out based off another poster's theory that running a female VP is too risky this Celerity Aug 2019 #30
Thanks for this. This could be an OP, if you'd consider. ancianita Aug 2019 #31
will do Celerity Aug 2019 #32
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