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Showing Original Post only (View all)Fact check: Kamala Harris makes false claim about Trump and auto jobs [View all]
Last edited Thu Aug 15, 2019, 09:03 AM - Edit history (1)
I'm surprised that Harris was not corrected by anyone in the media after she made her July 12 claim that 700,000 auto industry jobs would be lost by year's end but it's a fact that the press has gone very easy on Harris compared to Joe In part because she's running fourth in most national and state polls outside of California. These unforced errors are not malapropisms. Harris was giving interviews both times she made her false claims.
Washington (CNN) In an interview with CNN on Monday, Sen. Kamala Harris argued that President Donald Trump has failed to deliver on his promises to workers. And she issued a dire warning about autoworkers' jobs in particular. "... it is estimated that as many as 300,000 autoworkers may be out of a job before the end of the year," she said aboard her campaign bus in Iowa.
That was a more conservative figure than Harris used July 12 on the radio show "The Breakfast Club," during which she said, "... Meanwhile, some estimate that as many as 700,000 autoworkers were going to lose their job before the end of the year."
Both figures are incorrect.
Facts First: ...there has been an increase in autoworker jobs during the Trump presidency... Harris was wrong to claim that experts are suggesting there might be a massive decline in autoworker jobs within five months.
Harris' campaign told CNN that the "300,000" figure came from a study published in February by the Center for Automotive Research. That study, however, estimated approximately 367,000 job losses in the entire economy, not among autoworkers... the estimate was for job losses a year after Trump imposed a 25% tariff on automobiles and auto parts from every country except for Canada, Mexico and South Korea -- which he has not done... a co-author of the study and the Center for Automotive Research's vice president for industry, labor and economics, said the center has not published a specific job-loss estimate for autoworkers. But she said it is "highly unlikely" there would be a loss even close to 300,000 autoworkers by the year's end... Harris' "700,000" figure relied on a previous Center for Automotive Research study, published in July 2018, that estimated a loss of more than 700,000 jobs if Trump imposed a 25% tariff on automobile and auto parts imports from every country. This estimate, too, was for all kinds of jobs, not autoworkers alone, and the Center for Automotive Research says it has been supplanted by the updated analysis in the February 2019 study.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/14/politics/fact-check-kamala-harris-makes-false-claim-about-trump-and-auto-jobs/index.html
That was a more conservative figure than Harris used July 12 on the radio show "The Breakfast Club," during which she said, "... Meanwhile, some estimate that as many as 700,000 autoworkers were going to lose their job before the end of the year."
Both figures are incorrect.
Facts First: ...there has been an increase in autoworker jobs during the Trump presidency... Harris was wrong to claim that experts are suggesting there might be a massive decline in autoworker jobs within five months.
Harris' campaign told CNN that the "300,000" figure came from a study published in February by the Center for Automotive Research. That study, however, estimated approximately 367,000 job losses in the entire economy, not among autoworkers... the estimate was for job losses a year after Trump imposed a 25% tariff on automobiles and auto parts from every country except for Canada, Mexico and South Korea -- which he has not done... a co-author of the study and the Center for Automotive Research's vice president for industry, labor and economics, said the center has not published a specific job-loss estimate for autoworkers. But she said it is "highly unlikely" there would be a loss even close to 300,000 autoworkers by the year's end... Harris' "700,000" figure relied on a previous Center for Automotive Research study, published in July 2018, that estimated a loss of more than 700,000 jobs if Trump imposed a 25% tariff on automobile and auto parts imports from every country. This estimate, too, was for all kinds of jobs, not autoworkers alone, and the Center for Automotive Research says it has been supplanted by the updated analysis in the February 2019 study.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/14/politics/fact-check-kamala-harris-makes-false-claim-about-trump-and-auto-jobs/index.html
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Fact check: Kamala Harris makes false claim about Trump and auto jobs [View all]
Princetonian
Aug 2019
OP
How can you fact check something that hasn't happened yet? Auto companies have been known to...
brush
Aug 2019
#5
She's not claiming that something will happen, rather that EXPERTS SAY it will.
thesquanderer
Aug 2019
#93
Harris misfired and made false claims twice in a month. The OP is a quote from CNN's front page.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#8
It's a CNN Fact Check which is allowed here. Did you bother to read the article?
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#10
this thread is the same politics I've seen you complain about against Biden, vociferously
bigtree
Aug 2019
#11
Apples and oranges: this is about Harris being wrong on the FACTS not an instance of malapropism.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#15
If Joe was wrong on the FACTS and made two false claims about Trump and the auto industry...
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#27
no, not your new favorite word (which is an inaccurate description of recent mistatements by Biden)
bigtree
Aug 2019
#36
Are we going to argue how many angels can dance on the head of a pin next?
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#45
Harris made two false claims in interviews a month apart and misattributed two separate sources...
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#46
the WaPo fact checks aren't instances of Biden merely mispeaking. Those were apparent on their face
bigtree
Aug 2019
#48
Your whataboutism is noted. This CNN Fact Check was issued yesterday and is timely front page news.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#51
What's despicable the amount this thread has been about ATTACKING The Messenger.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#65
I respectfully disagree that this CNN Fact Check which is front page news is anything but unbiased.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#55
I'm fairly certain no one has cared to post the at least THREE WaPo/Biden fact checks since May
bigtree
Aug 2019
#58
I respectfully disagree w/your characterization. Since you have complaints, contact CNN Fact Check.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#60
There are an abundance of things to attack Trump on. We should not make up ones that aren't true.
thesquanderer
Aug 2019
#90
Again, apples and oranges: this is about Harris being wrong on the FACTS not...
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#21
Please show me where this CNN Fact Check does anything but correct both of Harris' false claims...
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#19
Harris is not infallible, is she? I am puzzled at the outrage over a simple CNN Fact Check.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#30
Thank goodness you didn't let this slip by. Maybe you can call these media outlets and ask them to
MrsCoffee
Aug 2019
#26
I am going with Nate Silver and Rolling Stone on this. Your mileage may differ.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#35
FYI, I volunteered for Senator Obama in 2007-2008 and stood behind him on the risers at HyVee.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#68
says the poster who couldn't resist posting an article carrying Trump water against a Dem candidate
bigtree
Aug 2019
#78
This is the title of this CNN FactCheck which is on the front page. I did not change it.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#69