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359. Harris has history from her days as DA and AG that needs to be addressed not ignored.
Wed Aug 14, 2019, 03:31 PM
Aug 2019

Last edited Thu Aug 15, 2019, 08:25 AM - Edit history (1)

Gabbard's biggest problem right now is being targeted by a "smear campaign" because she dared speak inconvenient truths:


It just shows,” says Hawaii congresswoman Tulsi Gabbard, “that launching a smear campaign is the only response to the truth.

The “smear campaign” refers to the bizarre avalanche of negative press that ensued, as reporters seemed to circle wagons around a Harris, a party favorite... Having wounded a presumptive frontrunner backed by nearly $25 million in campaign funds, Gabbard instantly became the subject of a slew of negative leaks, tweets, and press reports... Harris national press chair Ian Sams tweeted, “Yo, you love Assad!”, a reference to Gabbard’s controversial visit with Syrian president Bashar al-Assad in 2017. He then tweeted a link to an insidious February 2 NBC News story, which asserted that Gabbard’s campaign was the beneficiary of Russian bots.

Harris herself meanwhile gave a sneering interview to Anderson Cooper. “This is going to sound immodest,” she said, but as a “top-tier candidate,” she could “only take what [Gabbard] says and her opinion so seriously.” She added Gabbard was an “apologist for an individual, Assad, who has murdered the people of his country like cockroaches.”

The campaign against Gabbard is part of another remarkable shift in the Democratic Party. Barack Obama’s star began to rise as a presidential candidate 12 years ago, in 2007, when asked in a debate if he’d be willing to meet with Iran, Syria, Cuba... Obama said he would, that “it is a disgrace that we have not spoken to them.” He added: “The notion that somehow not talking to countries is punishment to them — which has been the guiding diplomatic principle of [the Bush] administration — is ridiculous.” He went on to cite, as Gabbard has done, the example of John F. Kennedy and Ronald Reagan, who both met with Soviet leaders... But the progressive position that meeting with dictators and/or adversaries is not only defensible but desirable no longer has any representation in major America media.

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/podcast-tulsi-gabbard-kamala-harris-syria-iraq-870003/[div]


If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
These claims have not been proven false. ucrdem Aug 2019 #1
Your Politifact link does the opposite end of what you say. It provides facts backing Harris. hedda_foil Aug 2019 #24
The claims have not been proven false. ucrdem Aug 2019 #35
Please read articles in Reply 44, 72, 85. There is more than a grain of truth in what Gabbard says. Princetonian Aug 2019 #84
You want us to read the comments??? Sorry, doesn't work that way. hedda_foil Aug 2019 #249
You're reading and replying to a comment right now. So I guess it does work that way. TeamPooka Aug 2019 #413
That is not true...Sen. Harris will have a tough time with some of her stuff in the DA/AG Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #168
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2019 #412
This is a well-annotated New York Times article by a law professor which backs up Tulsi Gabbard. Princetonian Aug 2019 #72
Wow, that was eye-opening! And Kamala has no response... InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2019 #289
"Kill The Messenger" is her advisors' strategy according to a reporter who is in a position to know. Princetonian Aug 2019 #349
Bad strategy. InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2019 #350
The alternative is to admit the truth of what Gabbard said. Princetonian Aug 2019 #352
The Mercury News Debate Factcheck backs Tulsi Gabbard up as well. Princetonian Aug 2019 #88
An inconvenient truth. ucrdem Aug 2019 #99
I feel the exact same way. It would seem we are in the minority. Princetonian Aug 2019 #112
If Harris fades, it won't be Gabbard's fault ucrdem Aug 2019 #121
I agree with you...she opened the door to this sort of thing in the first debate now the sky is Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #169
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2019 #189
Playing greatest hits now? This ran weeks ago but now it's back. brush Aug 2019 #401
Seems like some here Andy823 Aug 2019 #403
this is nothing like she will face... dhill926 Aug 2019 #2
Still don't amplify Tulsis lies sharedvalues Aug 2019 #62
So you think neo-nazi Daily Stormer is a trusted news source to smear Democrats? Princetonian Aug 2019 #66
I think Tulsi was raised in a Hindu cult and cozied up to Bashar Assad sharedvalues Aug 2019 #91
Many American politicians met with Assad in Syria! at140 Aug 2019 #124
John Kerry too. Meanwhile the UK is self-destructing over fear of Syrian refugees ucrdem Aug 2019 #133
The Speaker of the House and the Secretary of State meeting with a foreign head of state i different StarfishSaver Aug 2019 #135
Yes that's fair. But Syria is a humanitarian catastrophe and if Gabbard thought she could help ucrdem Aug 2019 #136
Yes I Was Just Coming To The Fact Theirs Are Me. Aug 2019 #207
"five congressional Democrats and Ohio Republican Dave Hobson met for three hours with Assad" Princetonian Aug 2019 #209
There's a difference between high-level Members meeting with a foreign leader as part of an StarfishSaver Aug 2019 #211
lol... you don't get to make those determinations. Pelosi went against the wishes of her President. Princetonian Aug 2019 #215
Your slip is showing. StarfishSaver Aug 2019 #216
Oh puhleeze... are you serious? That is a political fact for any Member of Congress. Princetonian Aug 2019 #217
Huge difference Kerry met with Assad a few times before the Syrian civil war karynnj Aug 2019 #366
What you're saying is a lie. sharedvalues Aug 2019 #134
"High-quality Russsian dissident site Bellingcat"? ucrdem Aug 2019 #154
I love Bellingcat Lulu KC Aug 2019 #184
My 1st preference is NOT Tulsi Gabbard at140 Aug 2019 #226
Great! If you dislike Gabbard then don't promote her. sharedvalues Aug 2019 #233
Defending someone is same as promoting? at140 Aug 2019 #236
Cool. So feel free to criticize Gabbard for her problems. sharedvalues Aug 2019 #237
Harris has history from her days as DA and AG that needs to be addressed not ignored. Princetonian Aug 2019 #359
We were talking about Gabbards problems sharedvalues Aug 2019 #360
Harris has yet to refute any of Gabbard's claims. Princetonian Aug 2019 #369
The problem is Gabbards: sharedvalues Aug 2019 #370
Gabbard has no problems besides an ongoing smear campaign pushing baseless allegations. Princetonian Aug 2019 #371
Princetonian, welcome to DU! Thanks for supporting Gabbard so strongly! sharedvalues Aug 2019 #372
I support VP Joe Biden who is not a racist. Princetonian Aug 2019 #373
+1,000,000 Skya Rhen Aug 2019 #376
A counterpoint to the Bellingcat Syria article... thesquanderer Aug 2019 #353
I see you didn't read the article about Tulsi sharedvalues Aug 2019 #221
For the record, I am 100% against ALL WMD's... at140 Aug 2019 #225
You're blaming the UN for Gabbard helping justify a war atrocity? sharedvalues Aug 2019 #234
You are entitled to your POV and I am to mine! nt at140 Aug 2019 #235
You're not entitled to your own set of facts. Nm sharedvalues Aug 2019 #238
Were Gabbard to condemn Syrian war crimes while NOT asserting that Eyeball_Kid Aug 2019 #303
Some of what Gabbard has said about Syria thesquanderer Aug 2019 #311
(Video) Tulsi agrees with Anderson Cooper that Assad is a murderer and torturer. Princetonian Aug 2019 #361
She is still part of the Hindu Nationalist cult obamanut2012 Aug 2019 #191
Hinduism is a religion you know...and should not be attacked. Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #255
they have negative elements to it which should be attacked JI7 Aug 2019 #273
Hinduism is a religion; Hindutva is a right-wing political movement Recursion Aug 2019 #291
I will not join in attacking Gabbard...people have gone overboard IMHO... Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #308
Why not? NastyRiffraff Aug 2019 #334
Gabbard's religion is none of our affair. Princetonian Aug 2019 #390
Daily kick SunsetDreams2 Aug 2019 #391
Thanks! Others have joined me to address points of contention. Truth is never out of date. Princetonian Aug 2019 #392
That makes no sense. Eyeball_Kid Aug 2019 #301
I don't trust candidates in fundamentalist religious cults sharedvalues Aug 2019 #306
They are not lies...credible papers like the New York Times have published much of this...and Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #170
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2019 #190
Wow Tulsi defenders on DU and their posts are rampant...it is over here, no point to post Eliot Rosewater Aug 2019 #242
Harris has plenty of supporters and Gabbard is not going to steal her thunder. ucrdem Aug 2019 #248
A right wing organization that makes reference to the Hindu religion AND Eyeball_Kid Aug 2019 #302
tulsi, you are not going to be president, OR vice president.. please go home.. pangaia Aug 2019 #3
Home, in this case, may be FNC. crazytown Aug 2019 #4
I would not rule out Gabbard as VP if the top of our ticket is a white male. (n/t) thesquanderer Aug 2019 #9
I do happy feet Aug 2019 #13
There is zero proof of that. Russia likes anyone from any party who is anti-interventionalist. Princetonian Aug 2019 #16
Gabbard wanted the US to intervene in Syria in 2015 crazytown Aug 2019 #27
So? That was four years ago! She is now anti-interventionalist regarding Syria. Princetonian Aug 2019 #42
OK. You're an apologist. crazytown Aug 2019 #43
lol... Apologist for what? Common sense timeline acknowledgement? Princetonian Aug 2019 #46
Next time the Iraq War Resolution vote is brought up I'm going to say "So? That was 17 years ago!" betsuni Aug 2019 #48
Apples and oranges. Princetonian Aug 2019 #50
NO it is NOT. Cha Aug 2019 #68
YES it is. Princetonian Aug 2019 #74
No it isn't. Cha Aug 2019 #75
Sigh. Do you really think IWR is the same as the opinion of a congresswoman on Twitter? Princetonian Aug 2019 #79
She is far from being just a "congresswoman on twitter". sheshe2 Aug 2019 #86
Context matters. Princetonian Aug 2019 #94
"Context Matters" sheshe2 Aug 2019 #96
omg.. ".. opinion of congresswoman on twitter.. " Cha Aug 2019 #93
Killing the messenger will not work. Gabbard is telling the truth. My sources are quoted and listed. Princetonian Aug 2019 #95
Gabbard's message is "killing" it for her. Cha Aug 2019 #98
Something sure.. SunsetDreams2 Aug 2019 #107
omg.. Cha Aug 2019 #111
Exactly Cha! SunsetDreams2 Aug 2019 #122
Oh Wow! Mahalo for that, SunsetDreams.. Cha Aug 2019 #127
You're welcome SunsetDreams2 Aug 2019 #131
Mueller did a great job, but some parts of his report are flawed. Eyeball_Kid Aug 2019 #304
"So? That was four years ago!" "So? That was 17 years ago!" betsuni Aug 2019 #100
Squirrel! SunsetDreams2 Aug 2019 #113
... betsuni Aug 2019 #120
! SunsetDreams2 Aug 2019 #126
.. Cha Aug 2019 #416
This message was self-deleted by its author Ponietz Aug 2019 #67
TG is an apologist, if nothing else. flying_wahini Aug 2019 #356
please no! MBS Aug 2019 #17
No snowybirdie Aug 2019 #29
well, let's not nominate anyone that stupid to choose her nini Aug 2019 #186
I could see her appealing to Biden, for example... thesquanderer Aug 2019 #187
No .. just no. nini Aug 2019 #200
Why choose someone with so many question marks as VP? dawg day Aug 2019 #231
Perhaps you could lay off of Biden...he is not going to choose Gabbard as VP...Harris should have Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #256
Lay off? There was nothing critical of Biden there. thesquanderer Aug 2019 #259
Just IMHO Biden would never pick Gabbard. Too kooky, too critical of prez Obama Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #296
Good point that she was critical of Obama's foreign policy. Still... thesquanderer Aug 2019 #299
I do. We can't hit Trump on foreign influence with Gabbard on the ticket Recursion Aug 2019 #292
Two things. One, voters don't know or care about about BJP/India. Two... thesquanderer Aug 2019 #294
I would rule her out womanofthehills Aug 2019 #333
That statement was when Barr released the summary, she took the "side" that... thesquanderer Aug 2019 #335
It's so obvious Gabbard is jealous of Harris, so jealous that she parrots right wing spin... brush Aug 2019 #30
The prison labor thing is 100% lefty left. Heard it many times on Pacifica ucrdem Aug 2019 #102
You're uninformed about the Harris call out of Biden during the first debate. brush Aug 2019 #139
Well, as it happens, "Kamala's attack on Biden was months in the making." ucrdem Aug 2019 #141
And he conveniently repeated the gaffe a week before the first debate. brush Aug 2019 #142
Nevertheless, the claim that the attack was motivated by the remark is UNTRUE. ucrdem Aug 2019 #144
What's untrue? Did he say it or not? Unforced error nd actually it made him aware... brush Aug 2019 #145
It's untrue to claim, as Harris did, that the attack was motivated by the remark: ucrdem Aug 2019 #146
I don't get what you're saying. Of course it was. brush Aug 2019 #148
No, it was planned well before the remarks, per Harris' own campaign. nt ucrdem Aug 2019 #149
You said yourself he made the remarks earlier, then repeated them before the debate... brush Aug 2019 #150
The fundraiser was on June 11, not months before the debate. And the attack was about busing. nt ucrdem Aug 2019 #152
Whatever you say. brush Aug 2019 #153
Look I think she's a great senator, I do. But I really want us to win the WH in 2020. ucrdem Aug 2019 #156
Re: a good senator, she's only been a senator for two years, so it's not clear R B Garr Aug 2019 #212
Yes I think she grossly miscalculated. ucrdem Aug 2019 #213
Amen. Perfect descriptions. I felt the same about her maneuver. R B Garr Aug 2019 #218
It's not deception if you're African American and an ally says "...he called me son and you boy." brush Aug 2019 #258
It was planned...and I saw nothing wrong with his statements...but then I prefer truth over Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #257
This!! Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #297
There is a double standard where Biden is concerned...stopped watching most shows as it makes Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #307
No question Joe did bring it on himself... but, to imply he's a racist was going to far. InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2019 #290
Please. Her first statement was she didn't believe he was a racist. brush Aug 2019 #305
Rhetoric 101. "I don't believe you're a racist, but..." means you're about to imply he's a racist. thesquanderer Aug 2019 #312
Bingo!! InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2019 #348
SMACKDOWN! Princetonian Aug 2019 #358
That's what MacDombles Aug 2019 #105
I could have said the same thing about Sen. Harris after the first debate...you can't go on the Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #171
Who? zackymilly Aug 2019 #5
The strategy might be questionable ucrdem Aug 2019 #6
I was thinking that too. Quixote1818 Aug 2019 #8
Yeah, I'm a no on Tulsi, dawg. EveHammond13 Aug 2019 #7
No one cares, Gabbard. donkeypoofed Aug 2019 #10
The prevailing school of thought is that these attacks will make Kamala a stronger candidate for Skya Rhen Aug 2019 #11
Does the mean Andy823 Aug 2019 #21
This theory was espoused after he was attacked in the first debate... as if it were a good thing... Skya Rhen Aug 2019 #32
Biden was the one who was talked about Cha Aug 2019 #69
Yes I know that Andy823 Aug 2019 #108
I haven't gone after Harris even though Cha Aug 2019 #118
I know you haven't Cha Andy823 Aug 2019 #125
They don't know her like Cha Aug 2019 #130
Agree! And seems Harris is now paying the price for that. I don't see Biden supporters going after Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #298
I don't think she makes it to the general unless she addresses these issues... Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #172
I don't trust Gabbard at all. tymorial Aug 2019 #12
And meanwhile, Tulsi pretends that she's for truth, justice, and the American way. pnwmom Aug 2019 #14
Tulsi is anti-interventionalist and served honorably in Iraq. Are you implying she is a traitor? Princetonian Aug 2019 #18
Your support for both Biden and Gabbard seems odd. They have very little in common. pnwmom Aug 2019 #31
Once you mentioned Nazis, you lost me. nt Princetonian Aug 2019 #40
Obama himself compared the Syrian gassings to the Nazis. But you probably don't like Obama either. pnwmom Aug 2019 #41
Your comments are now on the same level as Obama? lol Princetonian Aug 2019 #47
Stop trying to put words into my mouth. I think Gabbard's position on Syria is disqualifying. pnwmom Aug 2019 #49
Why didn't you say that in the first place? nt Princetonian Aug 2019 #51
I said that in my first response to you, post 31. Apparently you responded without reading it. n/t pnwmom Aug 2019 #65
I saw "nazis" and stopped. I was referring to your opening salvo Reply #14. Princetonian Aug 2019 #71
That was a response to someone else, not to you. And the quote about the Nazis pnwmom Aug 2019 #73
I simply asked whether you thought she was a traitor given your rhetoric in Reply #14. Princetonian Aug 2019 #80
And then you ignored my reply, and said I should have said it in the first place. pnwmom Aug 2019 #87
Did we not go over this already? Princetonian Aug 2019 #90
Just admit you were wrong.. and move on if you Cha Aug 2019 #106
lol Princetonian Aug 2019 #160
It was our ambassador-at-large for War Crimes / director of the Office of Global Criminal Justice lapucelle Aug 2019 #229
yes but Gabbard attacked Harris qazplm135 Aug 2019 #55
You're right. Maybe that is her special appeal. nt pnwmom Aug 2019 #202
Syria is a mess and I don't know how you deal with it...I think you are attacking Gabbard in Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #173
The worst thing that can be said about Harris, it seems, is that she was an Attorney General pnwmom Aug 2019 #203
No that is not the worst thing...at all. She kept people in jail even though the forensics were Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #222
She released 1000 people -- more than the judge's ruling required her to -- when it was proven pnwmom Aug 2019 #224
The judge required her to release them. She fought it...and she damn well should have known Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #245
No, it wasn't her office. The Police lab was NOT under her authority as Attorney General. pnwmom Aug 2019 #247
Look I read the same stuff you did...when she went to court and asked that folks not be released, Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #254
I strongly disagree with you that that previous post resolved all these issues in a way pnwmom Aug 2019 #262
I do not agree about the Catholic church...and this was a new policy...and was politically Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #400
She is absolutely NOT an anti-interventionist: W_HAMILTON Aug 2019 #60
That was 4-5 years ago. Princetonian Aug 2019 #77
Your point? W_HAMILTON Aug 2019 #89
Clinton has never apologized for her IWR vote. I guess she and Gabbard have something in common. Princetonian Aug 2019 #92
Clinton of course has apologized for her vote. betsuni Aug 2019 #97
Ah, in her 2014 book which I did not read. That took awhile, didn't it? Princetonian Aug 2019 #101
So? That was five years ago! betsuni Aug 2019 #103
Yes. And unimportant now. Princetonian Aug 2019 #110
This message was self-deleted by its author MrsCoffee Aug 2019 #115
And what did Hillary say about her vote? ismnotwasm Aug 2019 #206
Thank you for these Gabbard "..interventionist.." tweets! Cha Aug 2019 #109
Gabbard has been anti-interventionist since at least 2017 according to The New Yorker. Princetonian Aug 2019 #381
"Anti-regime change wars" does not equal anti-interventionist. W_HAMILTON Aug 2019 #382
Technically, "anti-regime change wars" is a subcategory of noninterventionist foreign policy. Princetonian Aug 2019 #383
Wrong. W_HAMILTON Aug 2019 #384
What's wrong is conflating really old tweets with Gabbard's present noninterventionist FP beliefs. Princetonian Aug 2019 #385
And unless your "fresh" quotes, sources, links or videos show her outright renouncing... W_HAMILTON Aug 2019 #386
Stale tweets, stale thoughts. Princetonian Aug 2019 #387
If she can renounce her "stale" anti-gay stances... W_HAMILTON Aug 2019 #388
Current 100% rating from HRC and NARAL, thanks for asking! Princetonian Aug 2019 #389
Thanks for the facts on Gabbard. Cha Aug 2019 #414
Correctomundo..here is the photo.. at140 Aug 2019 #128
Funny, I don't recall Pelosi smeared as "The Assadist" by Democrats back then... Princetonian Aug 2019 #357
Who BY THe Way Me. Aug 2019 #22
No! Syria has nothing to do with Kashmir, which is in India. hedda_foil Aug 2019 #26
Um Me. Aug 2019 #37
This message was self-deleted by its author emmaverybo Aug 2019 #132
I think they know. MrsCoffee Aug 2019 #183
What? Me. Aug 2019 #185
Misread. Thought you meant Assad. Deleting. Nt emmaverybo Aug 2019 #195
Happens All The Time Me. Aug 2019 #196
Thanks for your graciousness on my error. emmaverybo Aug 2019 #197
Believe I've read that the Russian trolls like and support Tulsi. IphengeniaBlumgarten Aug 2019 #15
So Whose Dirty Work Is She Doing? Me. Aug 2019 #19
Do you consider Kamala attacking Biden in 1st debate at140 Aug 2019 #129
Exactly, you can't have your cake and eat it too... Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #174
No Me. Aug 2019 #204
Whose dirty work and what she expects to get out of it? Possible answer... thesquanderer Aug 2019 #198
Here's what Harris did today--sent lunch to Beto's El Paso headquarters Ponietz Aug 2019 #20
Those are conspiracy theories, been debunked. betsuni Aug 2019 #23
Wrong. Debunked by whom? Harris has not addressed any of the allegations directly. Princetonian Aug 2019 #28
I looked into them when they first came out, they're not true. betsuni Aug 2019 #38
"Now I have no idea where I looked, have to do it all over again." Princetonian Aug 2019 #53
Politifact: Were Tulsi Gabbard's attacks on Kamala Harris' record as a California prosecutor on betsuni Aug 2019 #58
See Reply 35. Princetonian Aug 2019 #63
The article does not support Gabbards' claims. betsuni Aug 2019 #81
Harris did directly prosecute marijuana cases as San Francisco district attorney from 2004-2010 Princetonian Aug 2019 #85
Bookmarking. n/t rzemanfl Aug 2019 #116
Well, I do have to say with the mountain of circumstantial and scientific evidence against Cooper, emmaverybo Aug 2019 #119
Harris had no reason to deny a blood test because there was clear evidence he was framed. Princetonian Aug 2019 #162
Yes, Harris' truancy "solution" did criminalize parents: "Kamala Harris Spins Facts on Truancy Law" Princetonian Aug 2019 #165
Her claims are as troubling as the law itself. After the second debate, interviewed by Anderson emmaverybo Aug 2019 #199
Thanks, I missed that. Harris' MFA claims are troubling to me as well. Her answers are pablum. Princetonian Aug 2019 #239
Ah, hah! NT emmaverybo Aug 2019 #246
District attorneys aren't responsible for marijuana being illegal, she was doing her job. betsuni Aug 2019 #138
"Was Kevin Cooper Framed For Murder?" by New York Times Pulitzer Prize Winner Nicholas Kristof Princetonian Aug 2019 #159
Suddenly the New York Times isn't fake news! betsuni Aug 2019 #161
Are you interested in why Harris did an about-face? Did you read the article? Princetonian Aug 2019 #163
Not everything is a conspiracy. betsuni Aug 2019 #164
NYT Pulitzer-Prize Winner Nicholas Kristof forced AG Harris to do the right thing. Princetonian Aug 2019 #166
Hey, nonny no! betsuni Aug 2019 #167
Heartless and political...not who I want as our nominee...sure I'd vote for her in a general. Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #208
Agreed. What Harris did is not social justice. Princetonian Aug 2019 #240
She is too political. We need to restore the integrity of the DOJ. Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #244
"Harris' district attorney's office violated defendants' rights by hiding damaging information" Princetonian Aug 2019 #181
So? That was 9-15 years ago! n/t namahage Aug 2019 #261
And? Princetonian Aug 2019 #264
No they haven't and pretending it is so does Sen. Harris no good as it will just keep coming. Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #175
And yet there are what, dozens, hundreds of Kamala BASHERS here now Eliot Rosewater Aug 2019 #243
Gabbard is a joke Andy823 Aug 2019 #25
Did you know that Gabbard said has been factchecked by the SF Chronicle? Princetonian Aug 2019 #33
She can say that but that's not what the article said FreeState Aug 2019 #39
Gabbard is truthful: "U.S. judges see 'epidemic' of prosecutorial misconduct in state" (LA Times) Princetonian Aug 2019 #44
So your just moving goal posts FreeState Aug 2019 #104
Proving Gabbard is truthful is moving the goalpost? Princetonian Aug 2019 #114
I disagree. That is what the article is saying. Princetonian Aug 2019 #117
Kind of makes one see who Putin and the Rs are most worried about mcar Aug 2019 #34
This has nothing to do with Putin...this is a situation where a second tier candidate is trying to Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #176
i agree with gabbard on a whole bunch of stuff policy wise. her tactics not so much. Kurt V. Aug 2019 #36
Now we see the purpose of her running. GulfCoast66 Aug 2019 #45
Tulsi said? sheshe2 Aug 2019 #52
Seems made for the CNN Attackometer Blue Owl Aug 2019 #54
Trump is owned by homophobic Russian nationalists, Codeine Aug 2019 #56
Tulsi believes the Barr Report SHRED Aug 2019 #57
That's not all.. Cha Aug 2019 #70
I should of said SHRED Aug 2019 #76
I saw where she believed it in March, the weekend it was released, as did... thesquanderer Aug 2019 #78
She has that video on her Twitter page still SHRED Aug 2019 #83
Mixed feelings about that... thesquanderer Aug 2019 #379
I disagree that most of the media outside of FAUX news believed the Barr Summary on its face. They.. uponit7771 Aug 2019 #375
Here's how the New York Times headlined it that week: thesquanderer Aug 2019 #380
This to me ends it! How can any dem believe Barr??!! There lay her true stripes Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #300
Like many, she believed the Barr report in March when it came out. thesquanderer Aug 2019 #310
Is there a link on this? This alone should disqualify Gabbard and keep her off of DU imho. uponit7771 Aug 2019 #374
No wonder the right-wing loves her SHRED Aug 2019 #59
Projection SunsetDreams2 Aug 2019 #61
"Tulsi Gabbard says..." Tarc Aug 2019 #64
Again...attacks but no defense of the DA/AG years...it won't work. Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #177
Any candidate who minimizes the Mueller findings is SUSPECT Ponietz Aug 2019 #82
Cult member Tulsi says what? Starry Messenger Aug 2019 #123
Why do you say cult? Beringia Aug 2019 #137
Science of Identity Foundation and Chris Butler obamanut2012 Aug 2019 #193
Enough said for you maybe Beringia Aug 2019 #194
Have you heard of the BITE Model? FreeState Aug 2019 #201
So do you think Tulsi goes to Chris Butler for advice Beringia Aug 2019 #219
Great response Starry Messenger Aug 2019 #232
She and her cult fought against abortion rights and against LGBT. pnwmom Aug 2019 #266
Tulsi is ranked 100% by NARAL Pro-Choice America Princetonian Aug 2019 #267
And that's a great pro-choice record fas a legislator. But I think the President of the US pnwmom Aug 2019 #268
Tulsi "is now pro-choice and pro-same-sex-marriage" (The New Yorker, November 6, 2017 issue) Princetonian Aug 2019 #271
This is very enlightening. ucrdem Aug 2019 #283
re: "I think the President of the US should PERSONALLY support women's choice" etc. thesquanderer Aug 2019 #295
We have many excellent candidates this year who have many fewer negatives than she has. pnwmom Aug 2019 #309
re: "We have many excellent candidates this year who have many fewer negatives" thesquanderer Aug 2019 #313
She told Ozy in 2015 that her personal views hadn't changed, and she refused to campaign pnwmom Aug 2019 #314
Again, we don't know exactly WHAT she told Oxy. No quote... thesquanderer Aug 2019 #316
We do know that she refused to campaign for Hawaii's marriage equality bill in 2013. pnwmom Aug 2019 #317
Tulsi did not want to get involved in state politics and has a 100% rating from HRC. Princetonian Aug 2019 #318
And she was NOT endorsed by the Hawaiian LGBT caucus, which was in a pnwmom Aug 2019 #319
Petty politics. They 're playing favorites. One can't get much better than a 100% rating from HRC. Princetonian Aug 2019 #321
That was based solely on her votes, which I already agreed toed the official D line. pnwmom Aug 2019 #322
Two things... thesquanderer Aug 2019 #336
Nothing Tulsi said has been refuted by Harris. Princetonian Aug 2019 #315
It seems so strange that you spend so much more time championing Tulsi than Biden, pnwmom Aug 2019 #323
What's stranger is Harris has not refuted much less addressed one iota of what Tulsi has said. Princetonian Aug 2019 #324
Maybe on the theory Tulsi has 2% support and isn't worth that much attention. pnwmom Aug 2019 #325
Harris can't. Tulsi is backed up by years of news stories like the one here and all over this thread Princetonian Aug 2019 #326
Where's your link to the rest of the article? n/t pnwmom Aug 2019 #328
"Federal judges called upon state Atty. Gen. Kamala D. Harris to respond to reports of a pattern of Princetonian Aug 2019 #330
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2019 #327
Both Hillary and Obama supported MA's gay marriage ruling in 2005. Tulsi was actively fighting pnwmom Aug 2019 #329
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2019 #331
Where are your sources? You got busted shading Tulsi with a remark she didn't make in Oxy... Princetonian Aug 2019 #332
re: "Would you say the same thing if she had worked against civil rights of black people in 2004? " thesquanderer Aug 2019 #339
Also, I assume you're more comfortable supporting Biden than Gabbard? Could be problematic too. thesquanderer Aug 2019 #345
Tulsi has a 100% rating for her voting record by the Human Rights Campaign who also endorsed her. Princetonian Aug 2019 #269
And yet she was NOT endorsed by the Hawaii LGBT caucus, and she rebuffed their request pnwmom Aug 2019 #270
You keep moving the goalpost. I disproved your insinuation that Tulsi is anti-choice and anti-LGBTQ. Princetonian Aug 2019 #272
So how come a supposed Biden supporter is so determined to champion an opposing candidate pnwmom Aug 2019 #274
I admire strong women who stand up to bullies. Princetonian Aug 2019 #275
Oh, right! Like she stood up to the vicious murderer Assad! pnwmom Aug 2019 #276
I admire that. And wherefore the hostility to Gabbard? ucrdem Aug 2019 #277
For me, it began with her strident opposition to civil unions in Hawaii, followed by pnwmom Aug 2019 #278
But hasn't she changed her views on those issues? ucrdem Aug 2019 #279
I don't excuse anyone who actively fought LGBT equality in 2004 -- she was an adult then. pnwmom Aug 2019 #280
Okay so don't support her. But the claims made about her here are way worse than that. ucrdem Aug 2019 #281
She grew up in an authoritarian cult -- her parents were involved long before 911. pnwmom Aug 2019 #284
Okay but people overcome all kinds of bad stuff in their youth. As for Assad, the motive ucrdem Aug 2019 #285
As recently as 3 years ago Ozy published the interview in which she said her personal beliefs pnwmom Aug 2019 #286
In 2017, The New Yorker interviewed Tulsi and found her to be pro-choice & pro-same-sex-marriage. Princetonian Aug 2019 #287
So what? That's one reporter. There is a small mountain of evidence providing good reason pnwmom Aug 2019 #288
re: "Ozy published the interview in which she said..." WRONG. thesquanderer Aug 2019 #293
which has nothing to do with what she accused Kamala of...why won't she refute this? she should. Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #398
Do you think Harris will ever address why she refused a DNA test for Kevin Cooper until the NY Times Princetonian Aug 2019 #282
I stand with Senator Harris Gothmog Aug 2019 #140
Meanwhile Gabbard rises to 6th in NH and meets the donor threshold for fall debate ucrdem Aug 2019 #143
RTTV... tonedevil Aug 2019 #147
Don't shoot the piano player ucrdem Aug 2019 #151
LOL... /nt tonedevil Aug 2019 #157
haha... this is funny stuff. Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #179
+ JI7 Aug 2019 #155
I find the entire thing kind of hillarious...Tulsi is doing what Sen. Harris did in order to advance Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #178
Same putin tactic used by trump duforsure Aug 2019 #158
I refuse to watch any station the airs Tulsi Gabbard. 33taw Aug 2019 #180
Who? liberalmuse Aug 2019 #182
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Russian asset says what? titaniumsalute Aug 2019 #192
I hope you are referring to Trump. Are you? Princetonian Aug 2019 #220
Wow. Given the demographics of supporters of these women are entirely different ismnotwasm Aug 2019 #205
Well, ever since Obama left office, Tulsi hasn't had a black president to attack. SaschaHM Aug 2019 #343
re: "Black voters...despise Tulsi like the plague" thesquanderer Aug 2019 #347
What an extraordinarily ugly accusation to make! Are you calling Tulsi Gabbard a racist now? Princetonian Aug 2019 #355
Gabbard might be the new Cornel West just without claiming Obama N-Word-ized the Oval Office uponit7771 Aug 2019 #377
Nope. It's Harris who "might be the new Cornel West" since she attacked both Joe & The Obama Legacy. Princetonian Aug 2019 #393
Sorry, can't debunk the facts. Impeccable news sources, remember? Princetonian Aug 2019 #354
Tulsi obviously got her marching orders to take Kamala down a peg FrankBooth Aug 2019 #210
Gabbard has yet to be proven wrong. Princetonian Aug 2019 #362
Irony is dead. BannonsLiver Aug 2019 #214
I believe this has all been proven false. Joe941 Aug 2019 #223
You would be wrong. Princetonian Aug 2019 #230
+1 FreeState Aug 2019 #320
thats correct but some folks have a rather transparent agenda here jcgoldie Aug 2019 #404
Joe941 is incorrect and so are you, jcgoldie. Want proof? Princetonian Aug 2019 #407
No Oberliner I dont jcgoldie Aug 2019 #408
How amusing! I am not Oberliner. What makes you think I am? Do tell. Princetonian Aug 2019 #409
Kamala is the anti-Putin candidate. Dawson Leery Aug 2019 #227
The only people shocked about this are the ones who haven't been keeping up Blue_Tires Aug 2019 #228
Tulsi works for Putin, we know that now for a fact as the Russian embassy Eliot Rosewater Aug 2019 #241
This is what the Russian disinfo campaign is focused on Tarc Aug 2019 #250
Are you accusing those not attacking Gabbard of being part of "the Russian disinfo campaign"? Princetonian Aug 2019 #251
"Gabbard is not a traitor or a Russian Asset" Tarc Aug 2019 #260
Take note: "Indictment: Russians also tried to help Bernie Sanders..." (USA Today, Feb. 17, 2018) Princetonian Aug 2019 #263
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She's just a bad candidate... DaDeacon Aug 2019 #252
As much as I hate to say it... Tulsi's attacks on Kamala were devastating. Joe941 Aug 2019 #253
I hope some of the people supporting Tulsi going after Harris for going after Biden... SaschaHM Aug 2019 #337
there was a troll that came here just today that started with the ugly attacks JI7 Aug 2019 #338
DU often can't see the forest for the trees. SaschaHM Aug 2019 #340
I didn't donate but I think the Stein recounts were invaluable. ucrdem Aug 2019 #342
Stein got PA to switch to voter-verifiable paper ballots with her lawsuit Celerity Aug 2019 #394
Not true. He/she was critical of false attacks on Tulsi's LGBTQ history and corrected them neatly. Princetonian Aug 2019 #346
It's crossed my mind. Here's why I think she won't: ucrdem Aug 2019 #341
Obama faced similar smears & attacks when he said he would speak to Syria without preconditions. Princetonian Aug 2019 #344
so I can assume that you are not a fan of a Biden/Harris ticket? Celerity Aug 2019 #395
In his Telemundo interview, Joe said he wants a VP he "can completely trust" which leaves Harris out Princetonian Aug 2019 #396
wow, thanks! Celerity Aug 2019 #397
My pleasure, really! Now let's see what you have here, Celerity... Princetonian Aug 2019 #405
Kemp belongs in prison for stealing (a charge I almost never make) that election nt Celerity Aug 2019 #406
I am still waiting for the Harris campaign to address Gabbards claims? How long is it now? Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #399
Laugh all you want.. I want nothing Cha Aug 2019 #415
Pot meets kettle tymorial Aug 2019 #351
None of Gabbard's claims have been refuted by Harris or her campaign. Princetonian Aug 2019 #363
I'm no fan of Tulsi, but Kamala needs to speak up on this. nt oasis Aug 2019 #364
Why does she have this fixation on Harris? What's the tactical advantage? FreeLookMode Aug 2019 #365
Good question. Here's my take on Gabbard's motivation... Princetonian Aug 2019 #367
Anderson Cooper to Tulsi: "Clearly you, your team did your research and had facts down." (CNN Video) Princetonian Aug 2019 #368
lol ! stonecutter357 Aug 2019 #378
Tulsi is just jealous of Kamala. lsewpershad Aug 2019 #402
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What could Representative Gabbard be "jealous" of? Princetonian Aug 2019 #411
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