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In reply to the discussion: Tulsi Gabbard says Kamala's entire Campaign is based on a Lie [View all]thesquanderer
(12,049 posts)1. re: "We do know that she refused to campaign for Hawaii's marriage equality bill in 2013."
Again, a quick google did not turn up any confirmation of that for me, only that she supported gay marriage in 2013 (and 2012). Can you provide a link to confirm this? I'd like to see if there's more detail about it. Sometimes things don't appear exactly as they seem on the surface.
2. re: "And Obama was NOT against individual states passing these bills -- that was his preference."
He had been personally against gay marriage. In 2008, he said "I believe marriage is between a man and a woman. I am not in favor of gay marriage." He softened in 2010, saying, "I have been to this point unwilling to sign on to same-sex marriage primarily because of my understandings of the traditional definitions of marriage...while Im not prepared to reverse myself here, sitting in the Roosevelt Room at 3:30 in the afternoon, I think its fair to say that its something that I think a lot about. Thats probably the best youll do out of me today." In 2011, he took another step, instructing the justice department not to enforce DOMA (which allowed states to refuse to recognize same sex marriages performed in other states)... and in 2012 he supported it. I could not find any reference to his believing that it should be left to the states, which would have been a poor argument anyway, if you believe in equal rights for LGBT, just as it was a poor argument for slavery.
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primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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