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Congratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
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In reply to the discussion: Tulsi Gabbard says Kamala's entire Campaign is based on a Lie [View all]ucrdem
(15,700 posts)277. I admire that. And wherefore the hostility to Gabbard?
Is it really just about Assad? And if you think Assad, who follows protocol so assiduously that he buses Al Qaeda fighters out of towns he's trying to recapture, would use chemical weapons after all the warnings that came down not to, can you you supply a motive? I frankly can't.
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Your Politifact link does the opposite end of what you say. It provides facts backing Harris.
hedda_foil
Aug 2019
#24
Please read articles in Reply 44, 72, 85. There is more than a grain of truth in what Gabbard says.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#84
You're reading and replying to a comment right now. So I guess it does work that way.
TeamPooka
Aug 2019
#413
That is not true...Sen. Harris will have a tough time with some of her stuff in the DA/AG
Demsrule86
Aug 2019
#168
This is a well-annotated New York Times article by a law professor which backs up Tulsi Gabbard.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#72
"Kill The Messenger" is her advisors' strategy according to a reporter who is in a position to know.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#349
I agree with you...she opened the door to this sort of thing in the first debate now the sky is
Demsrule86
Aug 2019
#169
So you think neo-nazi Daily Stormer is a trusted news source to smear Democrats?
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#66
John Kerry too. Meanwhile the UK is self-destructing over fear of Syrian refugees
ucrdem
Aug 2019
#133
The Speaker of the House and the Secretary of State meeting with a foreign head of state i different
StarfishSaver
Aug 2019
#135
Yes that's fair. But Syria is a humanitarian catastrophe and if Gabbard thought she could help
ucrdem
Aug 2019
#136
"five congressional Democrats and Ohio Republican Dave Hobson met for three hours with Assad"
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#209
There's a difference between high-level Members meeting with a foreign leader as part of an
StarfishSaver
Aug 2019
#211
lol... you don't get to make those determinations. Pelosi went against the wishes of her President.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#215
Oh puhleeze... are you serious? That is a political fact for any Member of Congress.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#217
Harris has history from her days as DA and AG that needs to be addressed not ignored.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#359
Gabbard has no problems besides an ongoing smear campaign pushing baseless allegations.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#371
(Video) Tulsi agrees with Anderson Cooper that Assad is a murderer and torturer.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#361
Thanks! Others have joined me to address points of contention. Truth is never out of date.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#392
They are not lies...credible papers like the New York Times have published much of this...and
Demsrule86
Aug 2019
#170
Wow Tulsi defenders on DU and their posts are rampant...it is over here, no point to post
Eliot Rosewater
Aug 2019
#242
I would not rule out Gabbard as VP if the top of our ticket is a white male. (n/t)
thesquanderer
Aug 2019
#9
There is zero proof of that. Russia likes anyone from any party who is anti-interventionalist.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#16
So? That was four years ago! She is now anti-interventionalist regarding Syria.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#42
Next time the Iraq War Resolution vote is brought up I'm going to say "So? That was 17 years ago!"
betsuni
Aug 2019
#48
Sigh. Do you really think IWR is the same as the opinion of a congresswoman on Twitter?
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#79
Killing the messenger will not work. Gabbard is telling the truth. My sources are quoted and listed.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#95
Perhaps you could lay off of Biden...he is not going to choose Gabbard as VP...Harris should have
Demsrule86
Aug 2019
#256
Just IMHO Biden would never pick Gabbard. Too kooky, too critical of prez Obama
Thekaspervote
Aug 2019
#296
Two things. One, voters don't know or care about about BJP/India. Two...
thesquanderer
Aug 2019
#294
That statement was when Barr released the summary, she took the "side" that...
thesquanderer
Aug 2019
#335
It's so obvious Gabbard is jealous of Harris, so jealous that she parrots right wing spin...
brush
Aug 2019
#30
What's untrue? Did he say it or not? Unforced error nd actually it made him aware...
brush
Aug 2019
#145
It's untrue to claim, as Harris did, that the attack was motivated by the remark:
ucrdem
Aug 2019
#146
You said yourself he made the remarks earlier, then repeated them before the debate...
brush
Aug 2019
#150
The fundraiser was on June 11, not months before the debate. And the attack was about busing. nt
ucrdem
Aug 2019
#152
Look I think she's a great senator, I do. But I really want us to win the WH in 2020.
ucrdem
Aug 2019
#156
Re: a good senator, she's only been a senator for two years, so it's not clear
R B Garr
Aug 2019
#212
It's not deception if you're African American and an ally says "...he called me son and you boy."
brush
Aug 2019
#258
It was planned...and I saw nothing wrong with his statements...but then I prefer truth over
Demsrule86
Aug 2019
#257
There is a double standard where Biden is concerned...stopped watching most shows as it makes
Demsrule86
Aug 2019
#307
No question Joe did bring it on himself... but, to imply he's a racist was going to far.
InAbLuEsTaTe
Aug 2019
#290
Rhetoric 101. "I don't believe you're a racist, but..." means you're about to imply he's a racist.
thesquanderer
Aug 2019
#312
I could have said the same thing about Sen. Harris after the first debate...you can't go on the
Demsrule86
Aug 2019
#171
The prevailing school of thought is that these attacks will make Kamala a stronger candidate for
Skya Rhen
Aug 2019
#11
This theory was espoused after he was attacked in the first debate... as if it were a good thing...
Skya Rhen
Aug 2019
#32
Agree! And seems Harris is now paying the price for that. I don't see Biden supporters going after
Thekaspervote
Aug 2019
#298
I don't think she makes it to the general unless she addresses these issues...
Demsrule86
Aug 2019
#172
And meanwhile, Tulsi pretends that she's for truth, justice, and the American way.
pnwmom
Aug 2019
#14
Tulsi is anti-interventionalist and served honorably in Iraq. Are you implying she is a traitor?
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#18
Your support for both Biden and Gabbard seems odd. They have very little in common.
pnwmom
Aug 2019
#31
Obama himself compared the Syrian gassings to the Nazis. But you probably don't like Obama either.
pnwmom
Aug 2019
#41
Stop trying to put words into my mouth. I think Gabbard's position on Syria is disqualifying.
pnwmom
Aug 2019
#49
I said that in my first response to you, post 31. Apparently you responded without reading it. n/t
pnwmom
Aug 2019
#65
I saw "nazis" and stopped. I was referring to your opening salvo Reply #14.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#71
I simply asked whether you thought she was a traitor given your rhetoric in Reply #14.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#80
And then you ignored my reply, and said I should have said it in the first place.
pnwmom
Aug 2019
#87
It was our ambassador-at-large for War Crimes / director of the Office of Global Criminal Justice
lapucelle
Aug 2019
#229
Syria is a mess and I don't know how you deal with it...I think you are attacking Gabbard in
Demsrule86
Aug 2019
#173
The worst thing that can be said about Harris, it seems, is that she was an Attorney General
pnwmom
Aug 2019
#203
No that is not the worst thing...at all. She kept people in jail even though the forensics were
Demsrule86
Aug 2019
#222
She released 1000 people -- more than the judge's ruling required her to -- when it was proven
pnwmom
Aug 2019
#224
The judge required her to release them. She fought it...and she damn well should have known
Demsrule86
Aug 2019
#245
No, it wasn't her office. The Police lab was NOT under her authority as Attorney General.
pnwmom
Aug 2019
#247
Look I read the same stuff you did...when she went to court and asked that folks not be released,
Demsrule86
Aug 2019
#254
I strongly disagree with you that that previous post resolved all these issues in a way
pnwmom
Aug 2019
#262
I do not agree about the Catholic church...and this was a new policy...and was politically
Demsrule86
Aug 2019
#400
Clinton has never apologized for her IWR vote. I guess she and Gabbard have something in common.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#92
Gabbard has been anti-interventionist since at least 2017 according to The New Yorker.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#381
Technically, "anti-regime change wars" is a subcategory of noninterventionist foreign policy.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#383
What's wrong is conflating really old tweets with Gabbard's present noninterventionist FP beliefs.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#385
And unless your "fresh" quotes, sources, links or videos show her outright renouncing...
W_HAMILTON
Aug 2019
#386
Funny, I don't recall Pelosi smeared as "The Assadist" by Democrats back then...
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#357
Whose dirty work and what she expects to get out of it? Possible answer...
thesquanderer
Aug 2019
#198
Wrong. Debunked by whom? Harris has not addressed any of the allegations directly.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#28
Politifact: Were Tulsi Gabbard's attacks on Kamala Harris' record as a California prosecutor on
betsuni
Aug 2019
#58
Harris did directly prosecute marijuana cases as San Francisco district attorney from 2004-2010
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#85
Well, I do have to say with the mountain of circumstantial and scientific evidence against Cooper,
emmaverybo
Aug 2019
#119
Harris had no reason to deny a blood test because there was clear evidence he was framed.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#162
Yes, Harris' truancy "solution" did criminalize parents: "Kamala Harris Spins Facts on Truancy Law"
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#165
Her claims are as troubling as the law itself. After the second debate, interviewed by Anderson
emmaverybo
Aug 2019
#199
Thanks, I missed that. Harris' MFA claims are troubling to me as well. Her answers are pablum.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#239
District attorneys aren't responsible for marijuana being illegal, she was doing her job.
betsuni
Aug 2019
#138
"Was Kevin Cooper Framed For Murder?" by New York Times Pulitzer Prize Winner Nicholas Kristof
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#159
Are you interested in why Harris did an about-face? Did you read the article?
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#163
NYT Pulitzer-Prize Winner Nicholas Kristof forced AG Harris to do the right thing.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#166
Heartless and political...not who I want as our nominee...sure I'd vote for her in a general.
Demsrule86
Aug 2019
#208
"Harris' district attorney's office violated defendants' rights by hiding damaging information"
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#181
No they haven't and pretending it is so does Sen. Harris no good as it will just keep coming.
Demsrule86
Aug 2019
#175
Gabbard is truthful: "U.S. judges see 'epidemic' of prosecutorial misconduct in state" (LA Times)
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#44
This has nothing to do with Putin...this is a situation where a second tier candidate is trying to
Demsrule86
Aug 2019
#176
i agree with gabbard on a whole bunch of stuff policy wise. her tactics not so much.
Kurt V.
Aug 2019
#36
I saw where she believed it in March, the weekend it was released, as did...
thesquanderer
Aug 2019
#78
I disagree that most of the media outside of FAUX news believed the Barr Summary on its face. They..
uponit7771
Aug 2019
#375
This to me ends it! How can any dem believe Barr??!! There lay her true stripes
Thekaspervote
Aug 2019
#300
Is there a link on this? This alone should disqualify Gabbard and keep her off of DU imho.
uponit7771
Aug 2019
#374
And that's a great pro-choice record fas a legislator. But I think the President of the US
pnwmom
Aug 2019
#268
Tulsi "is now pro-choice and pro-same-sex-marriage" (The New Yorker, November 6, 2017 issue)
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#271
re: "I think the President of the US should PERSONALLY support women's choice" etc.
thesquanderer
Aug 2019
#295
We have many excellent candidates this year who have many fewer negatives than she has.
pnwmom
Aug 2019
#309
re: "We have many excellent candidates this year who have many fewer negatives"
thesquanderer
Aug 2019
#313
She told Ozy in 2015 that her personal views hadn't changed, and she refused to campaign
pnwmom
Aug 2019
#314
We do know that she refused to campaign for Hawaii's marriage equality bill in 2013.
pnwmom
Aug 2019
#317
Tulsi did not want to get involved in state politics and has a 100% rating from HRC.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#318
Petty politics. They 're playing favorites. One can't get much better than a 100% rating from HRC.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#321
That was based solely on her votes, which I already agreed toed the official D line.
pnwmom
Aug 2019
#322
It seems so strange that you spend so much more time championing Tulsi than Biden,
pnwmom
Aug 2019
#323
What's stranger is Harris has not refuted much less addressed one iota of what Tulsi has said.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#324
Harris can't. Tulsi is backed up by years of news stories like the one here and all over this thread
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#326
"Federal judges called upon state Atty. Gen. Kamala D. Harris to respond to reports of a pattern of
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#330
Both Hillary and Obama supported MA's gay marriage ruling in 2005. Tulsi was actively fighting
pnwmom
Aug 2019
#329
Where are your sources? You got busted shading Tulsi with a remark she didn't make in Oxy...
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#332
re: "Would you say the same thing if she had worked against civil rights of black people in 2004? "
thesquanderer
Aug 2019
#339
Also, I assume you're more comfortable supporting Biden than Gabbard? Could be problematic too.
thesquanderer
Aug 2019
#345
Tulsi has a 100% rating for her voting record by the Human Rights Campaign who also endorsed her.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#269
And yet she was NOT endorsed by the Hawaii LGBT caucus, and she rebuffed their request
pnwmom
Aug 2019
#270
You keep moving the goalpost. I disproved your insinuation that Tulsi is anti-choice and anti-LGBTQ.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#272
So how come a supposed Biden supporter is so determined to champion an opposing candidate
pnwmom
Aug 2019
#274
For me, it began with her strident opposition to civil unions in Hawaii, followed by
pnwmom
Aug 2019
#278
I don't excuse anyone who actively fought LGBT equality in 2004 -- she was an adult then.
pnwmom
Aug 2019
#280
Okay so don't support her. But the claims made about her here are way worse than that.
ucrdem
Aug 2019
#281
She grew up in an authoritarian cult -- her parents were involved long before 911.
pnwmom
Aug 2019
#284
Okay but people overcome all kinds of bad stuff in their youth. As for Assad, the motive
ucrdem
Aug 2019
#285
As recently as 3 years ago Ozy published the interview in which she said her personal beliefs
pnwmom
Aug 2019
#286
In 2017, The New Yorker interviewed Tulsi and found her to be pro-choice & pro-same-sex-marriage.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#287
So what? That's one reporter. There is a small mountain of evidence providing good reason
pnwmom
Aug 2019
#288
which has nothing to do with what she accused Kamala of...why won't she refute this? she should.
Demsrule86
Aug 2019
#398
Do you think Harris will ever address why she refused a DNA test for Kevin Cooper until the NY Times
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#282
Meanwhile Gabbard rises to 6th in NH and meets the donor threshold for fall debate
ucrdem
Aug 2019
#143
I find the entire thing kind of hillarious...Tulsi is doing what Sen. Harris did in order to advance
Demsrule86
Aug 2019
#178
Wow. Given the demographics of supporters of these women are entirely different
ismnotwasm
Aug 2019
#205
Well, ever since Obama left office, Tulsi hasn't had a black president to attack.
SaschaHM
Aug 2019
#343
What an extraordinarily ugly accusation to make! Are you calling Tulsi Gabbard a racist now?
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#355
Gabbard might be the new Cornel West just without claiming Obama N-Word-ized the Oval Office
uponit7771
Aug 2019
#377
Nope. It's Harris who "might be the new Cornel West" since she attacked both Joe & The Obama Legacy.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#393
The only people shocked about this are the ones who haven't been keeping up
Blue_Tires
Aug 2019
#228
Tulsi works for Putin, we know that now for a fact as the Russian embassy
Eliot Rosewater
Aug 2019
#241
Are you accusing those not attacking Gabbard of being part of "the Russian disinfo campaign"?
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#251
Take note: "Indictment: Russians also tried to help Bernie Sanders..." (USA Today, Feb. 17, 2018)
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#263
I hope some of the people supporting Tulsi going after Harris for going after Biden...
SaschaHM
Aug 2019
#337
Not true. He/she was critical of false attacks on Tulsi's LGBTQ history and corrected them neatly.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#346
Obama faced similar smears & attacks when he said he would speak to Syria without preconditions.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#344
In his Telemundo interview, Joe said he wants a VP he "can completely trust" which leaves Harris out
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#396
Kemp belongs in prison for stealing (a charge I almost never make) that election nt
Celerity
Aug 2019
#406
I am still waiting for the Harris campaign to address Gabbards claims? How long is it now?
Demsrule86
Aug 2019
#399
Why does she have this fixation on Harris? What's the tactical advantage?
FreeLookMode
Aug 2019
#365
Anderson Cooper to Tulsi: "Clearly you, your team did your research and had facts down." (CNN Video)
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#368