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Democratic Primaries
In reply to the discussion: Tulsi Gabbard says Kamala's entire Campaign is based on a Lie [View all]Demsrule86
(70,660 posts)255. Hinduism is a religion you know...and should not be attacked.
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primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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Your Politifact link does the opposite end of what you say. It provides facts backing Harris.
hedda_foil
Aug 2019
#24
Please read articles in Reply 44, 72, 85. There is more than a grain of truth in what Gabbard says.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#84
You're reading and replying to a comment right now. So I guess it does work that way.
TeamPooka
Aug 2019
#413
That is not true...Sen. Harris will have a tough time with some of her stuff in the DA/AG
Demsrule86
Aug 2019
#168
This is a well-annotated New York Times article by a law professor which backs up Tulsi Gabbard.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#72
"Kill The Messenger" is her advisors' strategy according to a reporter who is in a position to know.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#349
I agree with you...she opened the door to this sort of thing in the first debate now the sky is
Demsrule86
Aug 2019
#169
So you think neo-nazi Daily Stormer is a trusted news source to smear Democrats?
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#66
John Kerry too. Meanwhile the UK is self-destructing over fear of Syrian refugees
ucrdem
Aug 2019
#133
The Speaker of the House and the Secretary of State meeting with a foreign head of state i different
StarfishSaver
Aug 2019
#135
Yes that's fair. But Syria is a humanitarian catastrophe and if Gabbard thought she could help
ucrdem
Aug 2019
#136
"five congressional Democrats and Ohio Republican Dave Hobson met for three hours with Assad"
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#209
There's a difference between high-level Members meeting with a foreign leader as part of an
StarfishSaver
Aug 2019
#211
lol... you don't get to make those determinations. Pelosi went against the wishes of her President.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#215
Oh puhleeze... are you serious? That is a political fact for any Member of Congress.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#217
Harris has history from her days as DA and AG that needs to be addressed not ignored.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#359
Gabbard has no problems besides an ongoing smear campaign pushing baseless allegations.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#371
(Video) Tulsi agrees with Anderson Cooper that Assad is a murderer and torturer.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#361
Thanks! Others have joined me to address points of contention. Truth is never out of date.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#392
They are not lies...credible papers like the New York Times have published much of this...and
Demsrule86
Aug 2019
#170
Wow Tulsi defenders on DU and their posts are rampant...it is over here, no point to post
Eliot Rosewater
Aug 2019
#242
I would not rule out Gabbard as VP if the top of our ticket is a white male. (n/t)
thesquanderer
Aug 2019
#9
There is zero proof of that. Russia likes anyone from any party who is anti-interventionalist.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#16
So? That was four years ago! She is now anti-interventionalist regarding Syria.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#42
Next time the Iraq War Resolution vote is brought up I'm going to say "So? That was 17 years ago!"
betsuni
Aug 2019
#48
Sigh. Do you really think IWR is the same as the opinion of a congresswoman on Twitter?
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#79
Killing the messenger will not work. Gabbard is telling the truth. My sources are quoted and listed.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#95
Perhaps you could lay off of Biden...he is not going to choose Gabbard as VP...Harris should have
Demsrule86
Aug 2019
#256
Just IMHO Biden would never pick Gabbard. Too kooky, too critical of prez Obama
Thekaspervote
Aug 2019
#296
Two things. One, voters don't know or care about about BJP/India. Two...
thesquanderer
Aug 2019
#294
That statement was when Barr released the summary, she took the "side" that...
thesquanderer
Aug 2019
#335
It's so obvious Gabbard is jealous of Harris, so jealous that she parrots right wing spin...
brush
Aug 2019
#30
What's untrue? Did he say it or not? Unforced error nd actually it made him aware...
brush
Aug 2019
#145
It's untrue to claim, as Harris did, that the attack was motivated by the remark:
ucrdem
Aug 2019
#146
You said yourself he made the remarks earlier, then repeated them before the debate...
brush
Aug 2019
#150
The fundraiser was on June 11, not months before the debate. And the attack was about busing. nt
ucrdem
Aug 2019
#152
Look I think she's a great senator, I do. But I really want us to win the WH in 2020.
ucrdem
Aug 2019
#156
Re: a good senator, she's only been a senator for two years, so it's not clear
R B Garr
Aug 2019
#212
It's not deception if you're African American and an ally says "...he called me son and you boy."
brush
Aug 2019
#258
It was planned...and I saw nothing wrong with his statements...but then I prefer truth over
Demsrule86
Aug 2019
#257
There is a double standard where Biden is concerned...stopped watching most shows as it makes
Demsrule86
Aug 2019
#307
No question Joe did bring it on himself... but, to imply he's a racist was going to far.
InAbLuEsTaTe
Aug 2019
#290
Rhetoric 101. "I don't believe you're a racist, but..." means you're about to imply he's a racist.
thesquanderer
Aug 2019
#312
I could have said the same thing about Sen. Harris after the first debate...you can't go on the
Demsrule86
Aug 2019
#171
The prevailing school of thought is that these attacks will make Kamala a stronger candidate for
Skya Rhen
Aug 2019
#11
This theory was espoused after he was attacked in the first debate... as if it were a good thing...
Skya Rhen
Aug 2019
#32
Agree! And seems Harris is now paying the price for that. I don't see Biden supporters going after
Thekaspervote
Aug 2019
#298
I don't think she makes it to the general unless she addresses these issues...
Demsrule86
Aug 2019
#172
And meanwhile, Tulsi pretends that she's for truth, justice, and the American way.
pnwmom
Aug 2019
#14
Tulsi is anti-interventionalist and served honorably in Iraq. Are you implying she is a traitor?
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#18
Your support for both Biden and Gabbard seems odd. They have very little in common.
pnwmom
Aug 2019
#31
Obama himself compared the Syrian gassings to the Nazis. But you probably don't like Obama either.
pnwmom
Aug 2019
#41
Stop trying to put words into my mouth. I think Gabbard's position on Syria is disqualifying.
pnwmom
Aug 2019
#49
I said that in my first response to you, post 31. Apparently you responded without reading it. n/t
pnwmom
Aug 2019
#65
I saw "nazis" and stopped. I was referring to your opening salvo Reply #14.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#71
I simply asked whether you thought she was a traitor given your rhetoric in Reply #14.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#80
And then you ignored my reply, and said I should have said it in the first place.
pnwmom
Aug 2019
#87
It was our ambassador-at-large for War Crimes / director of the Office of Global Criminal Justice
lapucelle
Aug 2019
#229
Syria is a mess and I don't know how you deal with it...I think you are attacking Gabbard in
Demsrule86
Aug 2019
#173
The worst thing that can be said about Harris, it seems, is that she was an Attorney General
pnwmom
Aug 2019
#203
No that is not the worst thing...at all. She kept people in jail even though the forensics were
Demsrule86
Aug 2019
#222
She released 1000 people -- more than the judge's ruling required her to -- when it was proven
pnwmom
Aug 2019
#224
The judge required her to release them. She fought it...and she damn well should have known
Demsrule86
Aug 2019
#245
No, it wasn't her office. The Police lab was NOT under her authority as Attorney General.
pnwmom
Aug 2019
#247
Look I read the same stuff you did...when she went to court and asked that folks not be released,
Demsrule86
Aug 2019
#254
I strongly disagree with you that that previous post resolved all these issues in a way
pnwmom
Aug 2019
#262
I do not agree about the Catholic church...and this was a new policy...and was politically
Demsrule86
Aug 2019
#400
Clinton has never apologized for her IWR vote. I guess she and Gabbard have something in common.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#92
Gabbard has been anti-interventionist since at least 2017 according to The New Yorker.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#381
Technically, "anti-regime change wars" is a subcategory of noninterventionist foreign policy.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#383
What's wrong is conflating really old tweets with Gabbard's present noninterventionist FP beliefs.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#385
And unless your "fresh" quotes, sources, links or videos show her outright renouncing...
W_HAMILTON
Aug 2019
#386
Funny, I don't recall Pelosi smeared as "The Assadist" by Democrats back then...
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#357
Whose dirty work and what she expects to get out of it? Possible answer...
thesquanderer
Aug 2019
#198
Wrong. Debunked by whom? Harris has not addressed any of the allegations directly.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#28
Politifact: Were Tulsi Gabbard's attacks on Kamala Harris' record as a California prosecutor on
betsuni
Aug 2019
#58
Harris did directly prosecute marijuana cases as San Francisco district attorney from 2004-2010
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#85
Well, I do have to say with the mountain of circumstantial and scientific evidence against Cooper,
emmaverybo
Aug 2019
#119
Harris had no reason to deny a blood test because there was clear evidence he was framed.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#162
Yes, Harris' truancy "solution" did criminalize parents: "Kamala Harris Spins Facts on Truancy Law"
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#165
Her claims are as troubling as the law itself. After the second debate, interviewed by Anderson
emmaverybo
Aug 2019
#199
Thanks, I missed that. Harris' MFA claims are troubling to me as well. Her answers are pablum.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#239
District attorneys aren't responsible for marijuana being illegal, she was doing her job.
betsuni
Aug 2019
#138
"Was Kevin Cooper Framed For Murder?" by New York Times Pulitzer Prize Winner Nicholas Kristof
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#159
Are you interested in why Harris did an about-face? Did you read the article?
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#163
NYT Pulitzer-Prize Winner Nicholas Kristof forced AG Harris to do the right thing.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#166
Heartless and political...not who I want as our nominee...sure I'd vote for her in a general.
Demsrule86
Aug 2019
#208
"Harris' district attorney's office violated defendants' rights by hiding damaging information"
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#181
No they haven't and pretending it is so does Sen. Harris no good as it will just keep coming.
Demsrule86
Aug 2019
#175
Gabbard is truthful: "U.S. judges see 'epidemic' of prosecutorial misconduct in state" (LA Times)
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#44
This has nothing to do with Putin...this is a situation where a second tier candidate is trying to
Demsrule86
Aug 2019
#176
i agree with gabbard on a whole bunch of stuff policy wise. her tactics not so much.
Kurt V.
Aug 2019
#36
I saw where she believed it in March, the weekend it was released, as did...
thesquanderer
Aug 2019
#78
I disagree that most of the media outside of FAUX news believed the Barr Summary on its face. They..
uponit7771
Aug 2019
#375
This to me ends it! How can any dem believe Barr??!! There lay her true stripes
Thekaspervote
Aug 2019
#300
Is there a link on this? This alone should disqualify Gabbard and keep her off of DU imho.
uponit7771
Aug 2019
#374
And that's a great pro-choice record fas a legislator. But I think the President of the US
pnwmom
Aug 2019
#268
Tulsi "is now pro-choice and pro-same-sex-marriage" (The New Yorker, November 6, 2017 issue)
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#271
re: "I think the President of the US should PERSONALLY support women's choice" etc.
thesquanderer
Aug 2019
#295
We have many excellent candidates this year who have many fewer negatives than she has.
pnwmom
Aug 2019
#309
re: "We have many excellent candidates this year who have many fewer negatives"
thesquanderer
Aug 2019
#313
She told Ozy in 2015 that her personal views hadn't changed, and she refused to campaign
pnwmom
Aug 2019
#314
We do know that she refused to campaign for Hawaii's marriage equality bill in 2013.
pnwmom
Aug 2019
#317
Tulsi did not want to get involved in state politics and has a 100% rating from HRC.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#318
Petty politics. They 're playing favorites. One can't get much better than a 100% rating from HRC.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#321
That was based solely on her votes, which I already agreed toed the official D line.
pnwmom
Aug 2019
#322
It seems so strange that you spend so much more time championing Tulsi than Biden,
pnwmom
Aug 2019
#323
What's stranger is Harris has not refuted much less addressed one iota of what Tulsi has said.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#324
Harris can't. Tulsi is backed up by years of news stories like the one here and all over this thread
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#326
"Federal judges called upon state Atty. Gen. Kamala D. Harris to respond to reports of a pattern of
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#330
Both Hillary and Obama supported MA's gay marriage ruling in 2005. Tulsi was actively fighting
pnwmom
Aug 2019
#329
Where are your sources? You got busted shading Tulsi with a remark she didn't make in Oxy...
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#332
re: "Would you say the same thing if she had worked against civil rights of black people in 2004? "
thesquanderer
Aug 2019
#339
Also, I assume you're more comfortable supporting Biden than Gabbard? Could be problematic too.
thesquanderer
Aug 2019
#345
Tulsi has a 100% rating for her voting record by the Human Rights Campaign who also endorsed her.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#269
And yet she was NOT endorsed by the Hawaii LGBT caucus, and she rebuffed their request
pnwmom
Aug 2019
#270
You keep moving the goalpost. I disproved your insinuation that Tulsi is anti-choice and anti-LGBTQ.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#272
So how come a supposed Biden supporter is so determined to champion an opposing candidate
pnwmom
Aug 2019
#274
For me, it began with her strident opposition to civil unions in Hawaii, followed by
pnwmom
Aug 2019
#278
I don't excuse anyone who actively fought LGBT equality in 2004 -- she was an adult then.
pnwmom
Aug 2019
#280
Okay so don't support her. But the claims made about her here are way worse than that.
ucrdem
Aug 2019
#281
She grew up in an authoritarian cult -- her parents were involved long before 911.
pnwmom
Aug 2019
#284
Okay but people overcome all kinds of bad stuff in their youth. As for Assad, the motive
ucrdem
Aug 2019
#285
As recently as 3 years ago Ozy published the interview in which she said her personal beliefs
pnwmom
Aug 2019
#286
In 2017, The New Yorker interviewed Tulsi and found her to be pro-choice & pro-same-sex-marriage.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#287
So what? That's one reporter. There is a small mountain of evidence providing good reason
pnwmom
Aug 2019
#288
which has nothing to do with what she accused Kamala of...why won't she refute this? she should.
Demsrule86
Aug 2019
#398
Do you think Harris will ever address why she refused a DNA test for Kevin Cooper until the NY Times
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#282
Meanwhile Gabbard rises to 6th in NH and meets the donor threshold for fall debate
ucrdem
Aug 2019
#143
I find the entire thing kind of hillarious...Tulsi is doing what Sen. Harris did in order to advance
Demsrule86
Aug 2019
#178
Wow. Given the demographics of supporters of these women are entirely different
ismnotwasm
Aug 2019
#205
Well, ever since Obama left office, Tulsi hasn't had a black president to attack.
SaschaHM
Aug 2019
#343
What an extraordinarily ugly accusation to make! Are you calling Tulsi Gabbard a racist now?
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#355
Gabbard might be the new Cornel West just without claiming Obama N-Word-ized the Oval Office
uponit7771
Aug 2019
#377
Nope. It's Harris who "might be the new Cornel West" since she attacked both Joe & The Obama Legacy.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#393
The only people shocked about this are the ones who haven't been keeping up
Blue_Tires
Aug 2019
#228
Tulsi works for Putin, we know that now for a fact as the Russian embassy
Eliot Rosewater
Aug 2019
#241
Are you accusing those not attacking Gabbard of being part of "the Russian disinfo campaign"?
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#251
Take note: "Indictment: Russians also tried to help Bernie Sanders..." (USA Today, Feb. 17, 2018)
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#263
I hope some of the people supporting Tulsi going after Harris for going after Biden...
SaschaHM
Aug 2019
#337
Not true. He/she was critical of false attacks on Tulsi's LGBTQ history and corrected them neatly.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#346
Obama faced similar smears & attacks when he said he would speak to Syria without preconditions.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#344
In his Telemundo interview, Joe said he wants a VP he "can completely trust" which leaves Harris out
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#396
Kemp belongs in prison for stealing (a charge I almost never make) that election nt
Celerity
Aug 2019
#406
I am still waiting for the Harris campaign to address Gabbards claims? How long is it now?
Demsrule86
Aug 2019
#399
Why does she have this fixation on Harris? What's the tactical advantage?
FreeLookMode
Aug 2019
#365
Anderson Cooper to Tulsi: "Clearly you, your team did your research and had facts down." (CNN Video)
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#368