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Congratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
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In reply to the discussion: I want Medicare for All, but for this election prefer Biden's plan [View all]Tiggeroshii
(11,088 posts)4. Medicare for all is not an option.
"Medicare for all who want it" is. Point being that a public option is optional and Medicare for all is not.
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What exactly is the difference between a public option and Medicare for All? The name?
LonePirate
Jul 2019
#1
Sorry to disagree. Any public option would be almost as expensive as all private insurance
Tiggeroshii
Jul 2019
#17
The reason why a public option wont work is that you have to convince people to buy into it
Tiggeroshii
Jul 2019
#25
No it can't. There are not enough votes for it...and even with the Senate...we won't have 60 votes..
Demsrule86
Jul 2019
#55
That is a bill that will spend huge amounts of money and it can not be done in reconciliation.
Demsrule86
Jul 2019
#89
It has been said/formulated that it's too much too soon, a huge undertaking, not
sprinkleeninow
Jul 2019
#81
I agree completely. I like our insurance and Medicare would cost us a fortune and we would still be
Demsrule86
Jul 2019
#90
What's ridiculous is trying the same thing over and over expecting different results
Tiggeroshii
Jul 2019
#84
Somehow the US is the only modern industrialized nation that doesnt have a single payer option
Tiggeroshii
Jul 2019
#41
When people realize ... how are you going to get them to realize this?
Drunken Irishman
Jul 2019
#109
There are folks who's states did not expand medicaid...we shouldn't do a buy in to
Demsrule86
Jul 2019
#57
You can disagree, but you would be wrong. The overhead for Medicare is two percent if memory serves.
Politicub
Jul 2019
#69
Creating an option doesnt disconnect that insurance option from the private medical industry
Tiggeroshii
Jul 2019
#75
M4A is just single payer healthcare, which is widely used around the world.
HerbChestnut
Jul 2019
#24
The same arguments were used during the last election before Trump was in office.
HerbChestnut
Jul 2019
#28
Its not tax misinformation I think bothers the voters. Its the fear of losing something they
ooky
Jul 2019
#74
Only 15 % support it if work place/private insurance goes away. The GOP are already running
Demsrule86
Jul 2019
#63
Not true...most countries have a hybrid system. Single payer is the exception not the rule.
Demsrule86
Jul 2019
#60
There are other options...it makes no sense to attempt to redo health care...we may end up
Demsrule86
Jul 2019
#91
It would be far easier to fix it than to start over...do you have any idea how long it took Canada
Demsrule86
Jul 2019
#97
It is true actually...but MFA is a losing issue politically...it isn't going to happen.
Demsrule86
Jul 2019
#99
Trump promised to make it better...different election with Trump trying to destroy it...but that was
Demsrule86
Jul 2019
#114
And has zero chance of passing...total waste of time and politically foolish.
Demsrule86
Jul 2019
#70
It won't happen no matter who gets elected...and running on MFA will get Trump reelected.
Demsrule86
Jul 2019
#93
The difference is the number of people enrolled in the program, which is massively important.
HerbChestnut
Jul 2019
#7
More people in an already large risk pool does not necessarily mean lower cost. And, those new
Hoyt
Jul 2019
#73
You also have to consider consolodating all private insurance pools into one public pool.
HerbChestnut
Jul 2019
#79
And other Democrats' idea, too, before the 2008 election and while the ACA was being debated.
highplainsdem
Jul 2019
#11
I disagree...we need to get business to pay their fair share....breaking the connection would be
Demsrule86
Jul 2019
#68
Removing the corporate/health insurance connection is an extremely important part...
SouthernProgressive
Jul 2019
#72
Yes, and lots of doctors have stopped accepting new patients who are on Medicare, too, though
highplainsdem
Jul 2019
#35
The same will happen to me...Medicare sucks unless you are poor enough to get Medicaid...and
Demsrule86
Jul 2019
#65
I heard Steyer say something close, like a public option working toward phasing out
brewens
Jul 2019
#61