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shanen

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7. Have you ever participated in any formal debates?
Sat Jun 22, 2019, 05:29 PM
Jun 2019

Actually, I never did L-D (Lincoln-Douglas) debates, but always team (C-X) debates (and some extemp). But let me assure you that it is really easy to consume an entire hour with a single topic and only two positions (affirmative and negative) on that topic. The topic will NOT be exhausted and you won't be able to cover every aspect of the topic.

You can refute me easily, however. Can you point at a single example of a substantive statement from the large "unwieldy" GOP debates of 2016? I don't think so, and most of the reason was desperation to use tiny slices of time to maximum effect. All that survived were Trump's insults.

I don't want to squabble about definitions, but 10 people does NOT a debate make. Actually, one of the most important techniques of good debating is to make sure the definitions of key terms are what you think they are. Now I would say that it's part of Level 3 (deframing) techniques, but many real debates can be won or lost because of the definitions that get established early in the debate.

Let me try to word it in terms of your favorite candidate, Kamala Harris. I actually like her, though she isn't my favorite. In terms of my suggestion, what topical question would she like to discuss at some length? If she used my suggestion, then she would get half of the one-on-one debate as time to discuss that topic as deeply as she can, and her main cost would be having to participate in a second debate where she would be responding to the other candididate's favorite topic.

By the way, in case it isn't obvious, I think she should pick her question based on the opponent. If she knows that the candidate agrees with her on one issue, then she should try to pick some other topic where she knows they have clear disagreements.

One more thing: In the context of L-D debates, the excuse for any misstatement or error is always baked in: "Yes, I said that in the debate, but it was my job to take that side of the argument in that debate and all of you know that my REAL position is quite different." However in my longer version of the suggestion, I suggested controlling the videos. Perhaps there shouldn't even be a live audience?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
Claiming every thing is fake isn't a winning strategy emulatorloo Jun 2019 #1
I want to agree, but it seems to be working for #Brokeahontas shanen Jun 2019 #5
You lost me at "#Brokahontas" which is a form of lying itself. marylandblue Jun 2019 #14
You can't completely ignore what works shanen Jun 2019 #15
Go ahead and ignore me then, you are rude yourself. marylandblue Jun 2019 #16
Post removed Post removed Jun 2019 #18
I called you out for using a derogatory term for a Democratic rival. marylandblue Jun 2019 #20
You are aware this isn't Twitter, right? Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2019 #24
Unrec brooklynite Jun 2019 #2
The candidates should challenge each other shanen Jun 2019 #4
Something similar to the seven Lincoln Douglas debates would be ideal sop Jun 2019 #26
After the candidates broadly agree on the same policy, how do you fill the extra time? brooklynite Jun 2019 #27
You're right, it's much too civilized a way to select a presidential candidate, it would be boring sop Jun 2019 #30
So here's how I explained it in email to his campaign shanen Jun 2019 #3
Unwieldy, maybe. Certainly not fake. nt Codeine Jun 2019 #6
Have you ever participated in any formal debates? shanen Jun 2019 #7
I did team debates in my Academic Competition Codeine Jun 2019 #10
Why are you agreeing me with such a negative tone? shanen Jun 2019 #12
"as such I would cut them from any debates" brooklynite Jun 2019 #28
Sheer pigheadedness and pique. Codeine Jun 2019 #29
They should have had 3 or 4 nights NewJeffCT Jun 2019 #8
Why not 20 or 30 nights? shanen Jun 2019 #9
Like a playoff system. Codeine Jun 2019 #11
First round victory? shanen Jun 2019 #13
Fewer candidates. RandySF Jun 2019 #17
As a suggestion? shanen Jun 2019 #19
They aren't actually debates loyalsister Jun 2019 #21
No truth in advertising, eh? shanen Jun 2019 #22
If 20 candidates is treated as a given Eric J in MN Jun 2019 #23
God no...there are too many candidates...let the lowest drop out. Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #25
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