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Hortensis

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46. Good post. Both Elizabeth and Hillary are major policy wonks,
Thu Jun 6, 2019, 12:31 PM
Jun 2019

and I love that in candidates.

Hillary's solutions ranged more broadly and could be big, but were designed to sound reassuringly "within normal," while Elizabeth's tend to be more iconoclastic. Two approaches, but both the kind of people you want in charge of putting a neglected nation in disarray in good order.

That reminds me, the city of Stockton, California has just started its own experiment in a universal basic income. $500/month to 130 residents for 18 months with no conditions to meet beyond allowing themselves to be studied. “We are in a moment where big ideas are important and politically people are ready for them,” Natalie Foster, co-chair of The Economic Security Project.

Interestingly, Warren hasn't stated a position on a UBI, while Hillary has said she regrets she didn't add a UBI to her agenda in 2016. But Warren's the one who has to get elected this time, and she's hardly the only candidate who apparently feels this subject has more weight than lift.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
I used to like Elizabeth Warren RedParrot Jun 2019 #1
trump doesn't debate. he insults, he lies, he smears, he menaces. EveHammond13 Jun 2019 #9
There's a reason Elizabeth has been on my dream ticket since Day 1!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2019 #14
Agree 100% vsrazdem Jun 2019 #15
Liz for Prez Vidal Jun 2019 #32
Has a nice ring to it!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2019 #35
I'm for Warren, I'm just too lazy to change my preference BeyondGeography Jun 2019 #2
Right and Might. I like that. EveHammond13 Jun 2019 #3
Me too, lol Vidal Jun 2019 #33
I get it and I love it!! BlueJac Jun 2019 #66
The important thing is not to let herself be knocked off her game. marylandblue Jun 2019 #4
Anderson Cooper likes nothing better than 15-person panel rehashing "Pocahontas" insult without end EveHammond13 Jun 2019 #8
AC is just another lazy fucking moron getting rich selling his soul. pangaia Jun 2019 #11
Lol, Cooper was born rich. cwydro Jun 2019 #24
Which he isn't getting TexasBushwhacker Jun 2019 #51
Picky picky picky. :)))))))))) pangaia Jun 2019 #52
Another Captain Obvious. The media is full of them. Funtatlaguy Jun 2019 #28
Getting richer drmeow Jun 2019 #57
i hate those stupid panels of "undecided" attention whores . Just report the fucking facts JI7 Jun 2019 #17
She's very tough Vidal Jun 2019 #34
She is fearless & her outrage is authentic. zonkers Jun 2019 #84
Discussing her would make Chuck Todds, the Mark Halperins, the Ken Vogels, pangaia Jun 2019 #5
yes. EveHammond13 Jun 2019 #7
BTW, If you ever go to Kyoto,,,,,,,, pangaia Jun 2019 #10
how random. I have been there. Ate at many places - names I cannot remember or pronounce. EveHammond13 Jun 2019 #12
At SUSHI IMAI !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! pangaia Jun 2019 #13
I call Chuck Todd, Numb Chuck... BlueJac Jun 2019 #67
She knows WHY policies matter and she tells you why they matter. Policy not an end in itself. EveHammond13 Jun 2019 #6
Very well stated!! Is Mark Halperin back? Laura PourMeADrink Jun 2019 #16
he is starting to make his way back . probably hopes to be on TV again in time for 2020 elections JI7 Jun 2019 #19
John Holliman True Blue American Jun 2019 #27
Wow never knew specifically what he was accused of..far cry from Franken Laura PourMeADrink Jun 2019 #42
Agreed! B Stieg Jun 2019 #18
She was brilliant at the MSBNC town hall today. SunSeeker Jun 2019 #20
"Brilliant" describes Elizabeth perfectly!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2019 #38
"Authentic" is another good word to describe her. calimary Jun 2019 #58
Authentic is also a perfect descriptor of Elizabeth...while we're at it, I'd also throw in caring... InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2019 #64
I loved her too lunatica Jun 2019 #60
Elizabeth Warren is unafraid and will run circles around anyone who tries.. List left Jun 2019 #21
No doubt... Elizabeth could be the most brilliant candidate to ever run for President. InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2019 #41
I saw her speak at the CA Dem convention in SF on Saturday and she was fantastic. deurbano Jun 2019 #22
I love her & think she's the best candidate to bring together the Clinton & Sande wings of the party Liberty Belle Jun 2019 #23
Excellent post... well said!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2019 #39
Me too, and the PASSION Brainstormy Jun 2019 #44
I was going to post the same thing. llmart Jun 2019 #62
She could be my MFM008 Jun 2019 #25
Do not listen to the Media True Blue American Jun 2019 #26
She moved to the top of ny list watoos Jun 2019 #29
Joe's lead is already starting to shrink... expect he will evolve on a few issues pretty quickly InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2019 #40
you are a word-smith and you have convinced me. 5X Jun 2019 #30
It has been my opinion rogerashton Jun 2019 #31
Hear! Hear! What you said. Kind of Blue Jun 2019 #36
I think your "word-smithing" is just fine. Thanks. nt Atticus Jun 2019 #37
her focus on mommas and babies is a winner. mopinko Jun 2019 #43
I heartily agree and rec this kcr Jun 2019 #45
Good post. Both Elizabeth and Hillary are major policy wonks, Hortensis Jun 2019 #46
Vote Prosperity Glaisne Jun 2019 #47
People Focused, Data Driven, Reality Based Glaisne Jun 2019 #48
That's what they said about Bill Clinton's comm skills. MGKrebs Jun 2019 #49
This is why she is my top pick Moral Compass Jun 2019 #50
Biggest plus for me. SHE IS TOUGH, She GETS It. Ninga Jun 2019 #53
Got that right!! Tough as nails... there's no fear in Elizabeth!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2019 #65
I think you are an outstanding writer and I agree with everything you said except mahina Jun 2019 #54
I don't want to think of her being eclipsed quite yet by a VP EveHammond13 Jun 2019 #76
The responses to your great post are remarkable. hedda_foil Jun 2019 #55
As I've said, BigOleDummy Jun 2019 #56
Yep. Warren 2020 BeckyDem Jun 2019 #59
They Will, As They Have Always Done Me. Jun 2019 #61
Very valid fear. Especially Chuck "bithsider" Todd. Pepsidog Jun 2019 #63
She is brilliant. zentrum Jun 2019 #68
the framing is so key EveHammond13 Jun 2019 #74
She is the real deal bluescribbler Jun 2019 #69
I agree with all you have xxqqqzme Jun 2019 #70
Recommended democrank Jun 2019 #71
I love burrowowl Jun 2019 #72
She persists. Marcuse Jun 2019 #73
Love Warren. She has what it takes! sharedvalues Jun 2019 #75
The media likes Republicans' bumper-sticker mentality. Beartracks Jun 2019 #77
Fantastic Writing! backtoblue Jun 2019 #78
Warren has been my choice from the get go. Miigwech Jun 2019 #79
Her explanation of the wealth tax Lefta Dissenter Jun 2019 #80
Warren is a policy wonk's policy wonk. Whether that makes her brilliant, or a winning candidate, highplainsdem Jun 2019 #81
the beauty is she knows how to tell us WHY the policy is good, what it does in plain words EveHammond13 Jun 2019 #82
too many pols seem to talk about policies and programs as an end in itself EveHammond13 Jun 2019 #83
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