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Showing Original Post only (View all)Hard data shows a centrist Dem candidate would lose in 2020 [View all]
https://www.salon.com/2019/06/02/there-is-hard-data-that-shows-that-a-centrist-democrat-would-be-a-losing-candidate/"Yet the Democratic Party and their mouthpieces at major newspapers are clearly not heeding Piketty's prophecy. Rather, TV pundits and op-ed writers of every major newspaper epitomize how the Democratic establishment has already reached a consensus: the 2020 nominee must be a centrist, a Joe Biden, Cory Booker or Kamala Harristype, preferably. They say that Joe Biden should "run because [his] populist image fits the Democrats most successful political strategy of the past generation" (David Leonhardt, New York Times), and though Biden "would be far from an ideal president," he "looks most like the person who could beat Trump" (David Ignatius, Washington Post). Likewise, the same elite pundit class is working overtime to torpedo left-Democratic candidates like Sanders.
For someone who was not acquainted with Piketty's paper, the argument for a centrist Democrat might sound compelling. If the country has tilted to the right, should we elect a candidate closer to the middle than the fringe? If the electorate resembles a left-to-right line, and each voter has a bracketed range of acceptability in which they vote, this would make perfect sense. The only problem is that it doesn't work like that, as Piketty shows.
The reason is that nominating centrist Democrats who don't speak to class issues will result in a great swathe of voters simply not voting. Conversely, right-wing candidates who speak to class issues, but who do so by harnessing a false consciousness e.g. blaming immigrants and minorities for capitalism's ills, rather than capitalists will win back those same voters who would have voted for a more class-conscious left candidate. Piketty calls this a "bifurcated" voting situation, e.g. many voters will connect either with far-right xenophobic nationalists or left-egalitarian internationalists, but perhaps nothing
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Now, why hasn't the Democratic Party heeded Piketty's warning? I think you already know why. To quote Upton Sinclair: "It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not understanding it." The donor base of the Democratic Party consists of a lot of pretty rich people who prefer the Democratic Party to be left on social issues but right on economic issues. The party elite see these wealthy folks as part of the party, and don't want to nominate a candidate who accurately sees them as class enemies. I wonder sometimes if there are Democratic Party eggheads working for the DNC who are aware of Piketty's prophecy but are not willing to risk evolving the party, lest they lose their benefactors."
Much more, including links to the hard data (over 100 pages!) at link...
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The powers that be are pulling out all the stops to ensure we do not see how well a liberal
brewens
Jun 2019
#58
If this analysis is correct then why is Biden leading in all the head-to-head polls against Trump?
honest.abe
Jun 2019
#9
Yes - so, at this point there is no reason to believe Biden can't win.
Drunken Irishman
Jun 2019
#86
If his analysis is correct then why doesn't the effect show up now in the polls?
honest.abe
Jun 2019
#12
Do you have a land line? If you do, do you have caller ID? If you do, do you pick it up..
aidbo
Jun 2019
#42
Don't trust the Salon narrative. Here is the actual article by Picketty to form your own opinion.
honest.abe
Jun 2019
#21
But will Biden make redistributionist economics a central part of message and policy?
marylandblue
Jun 2019
#29
I am sure Joe will include some level of redistributionist economics into his message.
honest.abe
Jun 2019
#37
Typical Salon bullshit. I remember what Salon did to Hilllary, distorting and
still_one
Jun 2019
#30
When Republicans attack Biden, they won't be calling him a centrist. He is a liberal. Always has
emmaverybo
Jun 2019
#38
I don't think Republicans have changed their mind. He will still be a "libtard" to them, and
emmaverybo
Jun 2019
#87
Clearly your not familiar with the difference between analysis and an editorial on that analysis
LanternWaste
Jun 2019
#93
He said it is based on a study of French, American, and British political history.
DemocratSinceBirth
Jun 2019
#55
I read that in the body of the op.. and disagree with the premise if it refers to the United States
Peacetrain
Jun 2019
#63
I am the last person to speak ill of Secretary Clinton but she didn't lose because of her ideology.
DemocratSinceBirth
Jun 2019
#76
Sigh. You can usually cherrypick an academic to cherrypick allegedly "hard" data to "prove"
highplainsdem
Jun 2019
#92
Thankfully, this 'hard data' sourced from 2013 was ignored during the mid-term win.
LanternWaste
Jun 2019
#94
Hard data makes its sound like the author of the paper reduced it to a mathematical certainty.
DemocratSinceBirth
Jun 2019
#95