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Fortinbras Armstrong

(4,473 posts)
7. It appears that you did not understand me
Fri Jul 4, 2014, 07:32 AM
Jul 2014

First, I did NOT say "Asperger's syndrome" -> "rudimentary sense of morals". I said, "I happen to have Asperger's Syndrome, and one of the effects of it on me is that I have what can best be described as a rudimentary sense of morals." Did you notice the words "on me"? I was saying that MY Asperger's has that effect on ME, not that it was a general tendency among Aspies.

Second, I said that I had a "rudimentary" innate sense of morality, not that I was totally amoral. "Rudimentary" as in "not wholly developed". I said that there are some things I find morally repugnant, not that there were no things I find morally repugnant.

I said that I realize that my under-developed moral sense is a flaw, and so I have become a student of ethics and moral theology as a compensatory mechanism. This sort of thing is common among Aspies -- some abilities which are innate to most people are either under-developed or even totally missing in us. So we have to learn them if we are to get along.

One minor point: The word is "sociopath", not "socio-path".

I realize that an ability to read people has nothing to do with morality. Asperger's is a syndrome. According to the on-line Merriam-Webster Dictionary, "syndrome" means " disease or disorder that involves a particular group of signs and symptoms". It's not just one thing that marks Asperger's, it's a number of things. The universal symptom is difficulty in social interaction and nonverbal communication. For a small group of Aspies, including myself, it includes an under-developed sense of morals. There are other symptoms: I am, as is common among Aspies, physically clumsy, and border-line obsessive compulsive. Many Aspies have problems with mathematics, others (including me) are very good at it. We tend to be extremely precise in our language, and delight in unusual and often archaic words. We regularly have intense interests in one or a few subjects -- I can tell you more about English history, the history and dogma of the Catholic Church, or Northern Italian cooking than you may ever want to know. (My father, who also had Asperger's, was one of the leading experts on fuels and lubricants for gasoline and diesel engines. His father, who also had it, literally wrote the book on the law of local government in England. And so on.)

To the sages of old, TM99 Jun 2014 #1
That's very well said. nt delrem Jun 2014 #3
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What you wrote does not contradict nor correct me. TM99 Nov 2014 #18
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When I read the OP Fortinbras Armstrong Jun 2014 #2
I would take your questioned ethics/morality delrem Jul 2014 #4
You seem to be saying that I am bigoted against myself. Fortinbras Armstrong Jul 2014 #5
I was only questioning your language. delrem Jul 2014 #6
It appears that you did not understand me Fortinbras Armstrong Jul 2014 #7
You aren't alone. I don't understand many people. delrem Jul 2014 #8
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I like your posts! delrem Nov 2014 #16
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All I can do is repeat what I said before. Fortinbras Armstrong Nov 2014 #17
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First, the paragraph is your friend, and even more the reader's friend Fortinbras Armstrong Nov 2014 #24
Philosophy is a battle against the bewitchment of our intelligence by means of language - Wittgenste Jim__ Jul 2014 #9
I'm not a fan of Wittgenstein. delrem Jul 2014 #10
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To defeat a goal? Expat in Korea Oct 2014 #11
I like this answer. nt delrem Nov 2014 #12
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