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ismnotwasm

(41,980 posts)
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 10:14 AM Mar 2014

Victim advocates applaud Craigslist rape verdict [View all]



The face of a serial rapist--look like a neighbor? A friend? Most men ARE not rapists, but are certainly complicit in Rape Culture.

"We have a very long history of effectively saying, 'If she's in prostitution, then what happens to her does not matter,'" said Kaethe Morris Hoffer, executive director of the Chicago Alliance Against Sexual Exploitation. "This conviction stands firmly against that proposition, and we applaud it."

The research shows that men who pay for sex often believe that they buy the right to do anything they want, Morris Hoffer said. Friday's verdict conveys that no one has that right, she said. She praised prosecutors, noting that having the state stand up for the woman sends a "profound and important message to the community at large."

"The other message that we would hope it sends loud and clear is that prosecutors can achieve convictions, even when the victim of the sexual assault is a woman who has been prostituted," Morris Hoffer said.

Women in prostitution have long faced a stigma when it comes to sexual assault, said Jody Raphael, a visiting law professor at DePaul University who has written about violence against women. Her latest book, "Rape is Rape," was published last year.

"Women in prostitution, because of what they do, are rarely believed," Raphael said. "They have told me they don't go to police with these kinds of complaints because they feel they will be abused and … are afraid to come forward and to make a complaint."


http://my.chicagotribune.com/#section/-1/article/p2p-79482703/
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men who pay for sex often believe that they buy the right to do anything they want, seabeyond Mar 2014 #1
Ooooh better watch now - you've got the mens all stirred up: Sheldon Cooper Mar 2014 #2
lol. i hadnt read that part of her post. just the article. was clueless what manny was talking seabeyond Mar 2014 #3
Just one of the many HOF stalkers. Sheldon Cooper Mar 2014 #4
EarlG locked it. Thank goodness. boston bean Mar 2014 #6
Does that count as a post violation against Manny? Whisp Mar 2014 #25
no. it does not effect anything. nt seabeyond Mar 2014 #26
hmm, that's a bit strange, no? Whisp Mar 2014 #27
i think mostly the SOP is not used to diss or flamebait, but mostly for putting the wrong post seabeyond Mar 2014 #28
it is funny. i would have never thought. i am so NAIVE about some things cause seabeyond Mar 2014 #7
One in particular UtahLib Mar 2014 #12
Heh. Sheldon Cooper Mar 2014 #13
LOL ismnotwasm Mar 2014 #35
I always saw him as the Annoying Librarian. A-Schwarzenegger Mar 2014 #48
Interesting to see more than one target. It's happy hour already: freshwest Mar 2014 #22
ah ha. cant we at least wait until 4'ish. lol. for breakfast? nah. lol. thanks seabeyond Mar 2014 #23
Seagami posted it last night. It made my evening! nt freshwest Mar 2014 #24
Nice! ismnotwasm Mar 2014 #42
See, it doesn't help with a qualifier - 'most' KitSileya Mar 2014 #5
redq is very good at explaining this. i think we need an Op about this again. i had an Op in GD seabeyond Mar 2014 #8
Oh, and how to claim innocence UtahLib Mar 2014 #11
I've never ever posted there ismnotwasm Mar 2014 #30
It was in GD. Sheldon Cooper Mar 2014 #37
The only poster on DU I have on ignore... MadrasT Mar 2014 #61
doncha just mercuryblues Mar 2014 #67
"Most men ARE not rapists, but are certainly complicit in Rape Culture. " demwing Mar 2014 #9
Sorry my bad. Editing these posts away, with some explanation in the other one. Threedifferentones Mar 2014 #14
or you could say... what are you talking about? because yuor imterpretation is wrong. not an seabeyond Mar 2014 #15
Well that's a huge fail ismnotwasm Mar 2014 #32
"injecting an embarrassing level of ridiculousness" amuse bouche Mar 2014 #16
Distortion is a common tatctic Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2014 #19
Adorable graphic ismnotwasm Mar 2014 #33
Thanks for that question demwing Mar 2014 #36
It was in connection to the article ismnotwasm Mar 2014 #39
Sorry I didn't intend to disrupt...so I'm editing these posts away. Threedifferentones Mar 2014 #43
Look I don't know you ismnotwasm Mar 2014 #44
Aight well I know I am a jerk. Threedifferentones Mar 2014 #45
Actually I've looked at all sides ismnotwasm Mar 2014 #47
The statement "most men are complicit in rape culture" does not seem to intersect different forms Threedifferentones Mar 2014 #50
I think ismnotwasm Mar 2014 #52
Indeed we are Threedifferentones Mar 2014 #59
firstly seabeyond Mar 2014 #60
... ismnotwasm Mar 2014 #62
by letting the mercuryblues Mar 2014 #65
Kudos! KitSileya Mar 2014 #66
thank you. mercuryblues Mar 2014 #68
I neglected to edit the post you are responding to, unlike the others, but as I said my point Threedifferentones Mar 2014 #69
so what mercuryblues Mar 2014 #70
Your post illustrates the "so what" quite well, and the nuances of oppression are what you ignore. Threedifferentones Mar 2014 #71
again mercuryblues Mar 2014 #72
Excellent response! Sheldon Cooper Mar 2014 #46
You hold yourself to a lower standard than others...? LanternWaste Mar 2014 #58
Most = 50% +1 or more gollygee Mar 2014 #63
can i simply copy and paste your post for the rest of time... nt seabeyond Mar 2014 #64
Saw a reference to this in another thread amuse bouche Mar 2014 #10
That thread was locked and rightfully so. That is why your post would not go through. Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2014 #18
Ok, thanks amuse bouche Mar 2014 #21
I am not overfond of the practice of alerting, either. The number of threads locked has diminished Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2014 #29
Rec because Yay!! Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2014 #17
Thanks for the info, ism UtahLib Mar 2014 #20
I swear I haven't been here and missed whatever happened. ismnotwasm Mar 2014 #34
Damn I just started this and went to work ismnotwasm Mar 2014 #31
as your question above shows, you are right. they either slightly kinda believe a rape culture even seabeyond Mar 2014 #38
We're two hours early sitting in a Starbucks ismnotwasm Mar 2014 #40
have a blast. sounds like fun. nt seabeyond Mar 2014 #41
Most men are. redqueen Mar 2014 #49
It's because the majority of rapists are men ismnotwasm Mar 2014 #54
It disgusts me that any man, or any female ally of such men, redqueen Mar 2014 #55
And yet, that's what the majority of them do ismnotwasm Mar 2014 #56
Sadly, I don't find it strange at all. nt redqueen Mar 2014 #57
Thank you for posting this! It's good to see these individuals being punished. nt Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #51
Yes it is ismnotwasm Mar 2014 #53
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