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really, how creepy for a progressive board group of men to ask.. how young of a girl can we lust [View all] seabeyond Sep 2013 OP

Lust is an involuntary emotion TheDeputy Sep 2013 #1

omFg... 5 yrs old. gonna tell me some creep lusting over a 5 yr old is involuntary. seabeyond Sep 2013 #5

All 5-year old lusters make the voluntary choice to do so? NoOneMan Sep 2013 #12

Unfortunately, it is involuntary Warpy Sep 2013 #13

I disagree LanternWaste Sep 2013 #21

i agree. none of how i "feel" or think or act has been hard for me. seabeyond Sep 2013 #26

I'm guessing that how a pedophile "feels" and "thinks" isn't hard for her either. Schema Thing Sep 2013 #71

i can just as easily allow myself anything and all with no restriction what so ever. and ya. seabeyond Sep 2013 #72

That is really interesting to me. nt ZombieHorde Sep 2013 #27

As I said, few of them act on it. Warpy Sep 2013 #33

warpy, i had mostly naked 16, 17, 18 yr old boys around me seabeyond Sep 2013 #37

You're also a FEMALE. Genetically programmed to lust after George Clooney... TheMadMonk Sep 2013 #88

geez that is such fuckin bullshit that you men are PROGRAMMED to believe on a regular bases by seabeyond Sep 2013 #89

And if we kept our teens and children on shorter rations like we did in the past... TheMadMonk Sep 2013 #113

this is where the story telling fails at the very beginning. you take your brain today and apply it seabeyond Sep 2013 #116

Exactly how is "ALL BEHAVIOUR IS VOLUNTARY" a better hypothesis? TheMadMonk Sep 2013 #120

you throw out bs evo psychology the scientist scoff at. i challenge. now you go into a rant about seabeyond Sep 2013 #122

I didn't call girls bitches. I Suggested it as an example... TheMadMonk Sep 2013 #191

You aren't allowed to see shades of gray. NoOneMan Sep 2013 #187

You are being sarcastic I hope ismnotwasm Sep 2013 #193

While I have a number of issues with this post ismnotwasm Sep 2013 #192

and as far as older man? well hell, she is more likely to get a less child with an older man. and seabeyond Sep 2013 #90

You're ignoring social context and intelligence.... Moonwalk Sep 2013 #129

and you are forgetting it is said this is innate, biology when what you describe is social seabeyond Sep 2013 #134

It's not biological? You should tell that to the apes. And the Lions. And wolves... Moonwalk Sep 2013 #144

again, you associate this woman with the development of brain today, tell us they had the ability seabeyond Sep 2013 #146

Learned? Apes, lions, wolves may not know that sex = baby, but they know... Moonwalk Sep 2013 #152

lets bottomline this. do you fight the urge to fuck a child. i did not fight the urge to hook up seabeyond Sep 2013 #153

You actually believe this? ismnotwasm Sep 2013 #159

Actually there is some thought ismnotwasm Sep 2013 #103

Wow...unreal! chervilant Sep 2013 #160

I justified, nothing. Whatever you may think, the desire... TheMadMonk Sep 2013 #203

My assertions are grounded in chervilant Sep 2013 #208

Post removed Post removed Sep 2013 #217

per the post hidden. you tell everyone pecking order and everyone just suck it up and deal. seabeyond Sep 2013 #223

That post was vile. redqueen Sep 2013 #227

yes it was. and seems to be we are the bad people for calling out vile posts. odd that. nt seabeyond Sep 2013 #229

omfg, glad that trash is kicked to the curb. WTF!? boston bean Sep 2013 #238

I am of course, discounting any brain which may be hard-wired from birth... LanternWaste Sep 2013 #54

From various things I've read, even brains that are normal at birth can develop these problems NoOneMan Sep 2013 #66

I've read that and others like it ismnotwasm Sep 2013 #162

How do you define 'acting'? redqueen Sep 2013 #56

I've never thought of it in quite that way ismnotwasm Sep 2013 #53

"Abstract" Yes! Academic, even. LanternWaste Sep 2013 #58

Oh yes ismnotwasm Sep 2013 #65

me too. i am there to do my job. i am Tuesday Afternoon Sep 2013 #112

Apples and oranges..."In THAT environment" is the key here, right? Moonwalk Sep 2013 #140

And what does a 5 year old do to inspire lust? ismnotwasm Sep 2013 #168

You really like to put words in other people's mouths, don't you? You should watch that... Moonwalk Sep 2013 #206

Clear? ismnotwasm Sep 2013 #222

To be honest, quite a few patients can appear just as "normal", just as healthy and just as objectiv LanternWaste Sep 2013 #226

Wouldn't you think they would think twice before "exposing" themselves on a public board? hlthe2b Sep 2013 #25

They think they're more anonymous than they really are Warpy Sep 2013 #30

And here we have an excellent demonstration of the purpose of derailing. redqueen Sep 2013 #36

thank you redq. perfectly said. that Op should have been shut down, fuckin immediately seabeyond Sep 2013 #39

LOL, right... redqueen Sep 2013 #48

Would have been, if I'd seen it Scootaloo Sep 2013 #92

Good points, I didn't see the original thread Warpy Sep 2013 #47

INDULGING in thoughts CAN be controlled. redqueen Sep 2013 #51

And starting up a thread on a discussion board, so they can share their attraction for young girls Squinch Sep 2013 #106

We have the capacity to deny, enhance or minimize any emotion LanternWaste Sep 2013 #15

"We *choose* to feel or not feel desire, lust, anger, happiness, frustration" NoOneMan Sep 2013 #18

No. Merely my own experience... which does deny that your statement is absolute LanternWaste Sep 2013 #24

The same stimuli (input) will always result in a single output in the same brain (multiplexor)/state NoOneMan Sep 2013 #45

Unless we choose otherwise. LanternWaste Sep 2013 #87

yes. seabeyond Sep 2013 #91

Do you somehow think you and your ability to "choose" is separate from your brain? NoOneMan Sep 2013 #95

My brain tells me to rob a bank, but I don't. Why is that? boston bean Sep 2013 #117

Because it tells you not to as well NoOneMan Sep 2013 #118

That is why men can control themselves. thanks. boston bean Sep 2013 #119

Most Men and Women, yes NoOneMan Sep 2013 #121

none of that makes lusting after young girls normal, which is what is being boston bean Sep 2013 #125

I agree. Its not normal NoOneMan Sep 2013 #143

In many it is. That is where we disagree with the sickness boston bean Sep 2013 #145

"they do have control over those thoughts" NoOneMan Sep 2013 #149

LOL, you have gone back to the cave man days. boston bean Sep 2013 #151

Free will is a religious concept NoOneMan Sep 2013 #154

Most religions deny the free will... ie god makes things happen boston bean Sep 2013 #158

"none of this is based in any choice at all" NoOneMan Sep 2013 #185

Disagree wholeheartedlywith your take. You won't convince me. boston bean Sep 2013 #186

You cannot defeat truthiness in the end NoOneMan Sep 2013 #188

Having a mind and believing making choices of ones own makes it perfectlly freaking clear boston bean Sep 2013 #190

Im actually a computer scientist that dabbled in a variety of neuroscience/psychology in undergrad NoOneMan Sep 2013 #194

You can tell a brain isn't make a conscious choice. boston bean Sep 2013 #195

"No doctor would believe that humans don't have control over the choices they make" NoOneMan Sep 2013 #197

I know it, and you leftout part of my sentencein that quote. boston bean Sep 2013 #198

Yet you keep responding. Funny how thats working. NoOneMan Sep 2013 #204

Choice is an illusion? ismnotwasm Sep 2013 #189

Its an illusion, yes, because at that specific time and circumstances, there is only one possible NoOneMan Sep 2013 #196

Oh FFS ismnotwasm Sep 2013 #199

What if we do? If a quantum flucuation changed processing behavior significantly is that a "choice" NoOneMan Sep 2013 #200

Well that is a question isn't it? ismnotwasm Sep 2013 #201

But isn't this the same argument for why gay people should not be gay? Moonwalk Sep 2013 #147

Are you suggesting Gay people and pedophiles are in the same category? ismnotwasm Sep 2013 #163

Putting words in my mouth? Shame, shame, shame.... Moonwalk Sep 2013 #202

*sigh* ismnotwasm Sep 2013 #205

That's absurd. Union Scribe Sep 2013 #216

? upaloopa Sep 2013 #2

I would agree that it's creepy to ask that... Bay Boy Sep 2013 #3

it is also funny to beat up women who don't cooperate in a 3 way according to some DUers nt msongs Sep 2013 #4

i didnt read the replies. and another said thing about du, regardless, violence to another seabeyond Sep 2013 #7

What post are you refrring to? Summer Hathaway Sep 2013 #6

thank you. i will make the correction. seabeyond Sep 2013 #8

A whole new level or creepiness, that one. LanternWaste Sep 2013 #9

Easy question.... daleanime Sep 2013 #10

not rude, just damn pathetic that you feel no more passion about fucking with children seabeyond Sep 2013 #11

Now that is really a sick reply. Where is the fucking children part? upaloopa Sep 2013 #20

wtf do you think we are talking about in this thread. grown fuckin men fuckin with children, even seabeyond Sep 2013 #28

What is it in you that makes you feel you have it so upaloopa Sep 2013 #40

that is sad. so so sad. go away. nt seabeyond Sep 2013 #43

Not sad on my part, on yours yes. Go read some psych books upaloopa Sep 2013 #50

You came here ismnotwasm Sep 2013 #55

^^^ yes ^^^ Tuesday Afternoon Sep 2013 #57

I know ismnotwasm Sep 2013 #63

I am reacting to all the posters like you saying anyone here is upaloopa Sep 2013 #70

Then what are you trying to say besides harassing Seabeyond? ismnotwasm Sep 2013 #100

Heh! Sheldon Cooper Sep 2013 #104

Huh? daleanime Sep 2013 #29

you throw out a sarcastic dismissive answer to this OP. a man makes an OP about the earliest age seabeyond Sep 2013 #32

yes, yes I do... daleanime Sep 2013 #61

Who was that who made you a convenient target? I think you did that all on your own. Squinch Sep 2013 #38

thank you... daleanime Sep 2013 #62

"maintains the zombie patriarchy" NoOneMan Sep 2013 #14

No it isn't. ismnotwasm Sep 2013 #59

"The best answer is "lusting after children is fucked up" period." truly seems too hard for too seabeyond Sep 2013 #75

Let me be blunt here, seabeyond... Violet_Crumble Sep 2013 #219

it would help your argument if you even knew what youw ere arguing before admittedly not seabeyond Sep 2013 #221

I'm very clear on what I've seen from you here and in that other thread... Violet_Crumble Sep 2013 #224

you want all this consideration for a post in mens forum, and totally have no ability to give to my seabeyond Sep 2013 #225

Can you not read timestamps? redqueen Sep 2013 #228

Meh ismnotwasm Sep 2013 #234

Prostitution is already legal in Australia. redqueen Sep 2013 #235

apparently you have no idea what yr talking about Violet_Crumble Sep 2013 #240

Me? I'm even tempered ismnotwasm Sep 2013 #241

Oh PLEASE. redqueen Sep 2013 #242

I like Stoya ismnotwasm Sep 2013 #236

Yes, you are wrong in saying the other OP was self-deleted before seabeyond started this OP here. MadrasT Sep 2013 #232

obviously didnt take time to read the thread boston bean Sep 2013 #239

Just to be clear--That was MY comment; Sea was agreeing with it ismnotwasm Sep 2013 #233

You have utterly failed in reading this situation Violet. boston bean Sep 2013 #230

+ 1 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 kestrel91316 Sep 2013 #133

Well I remember that Jimmie Carter admitted to upaloopa Sep 2013 #17

lusting a child... born with? or only men born to lust, women.... nah, no lust seabeyond Sep 2013 #19

I did not put child in my reply. upaloopa Sep 2013 #31

This message was self-deleted by its author seabeyond Sep 2013 #34

i didnt know what you are saying men are born with. lusting over children or just lust. so, women seabeyond Sep 2013 #35

The discussion is about lusting after children. No one attacked you. Squinch Sep 2013 #41

Women have no sexual desire? No "lust"--such a biblical term-- ismnotwasm Sep 2013 #60

Lust is in all of us. This OP is a trap so the upaloopa Sep 2013 #68

LOL, it's not a "trap"... FFS redqueen Sep 2013 #73

If you actually thought the OP was a trap, you wouldn't have waded in. So here's what Squinch Sep 2013 #82

don't have too upaloopa Sep 2013 #83

or there are pathetic human beings that have to validate disgusting behavior by saying everyone has seabeyond Sep 2013 #84

that's not what I said is it? upaloopa Sep 2013 #85

ya bubba, and you can read about my scenario also. they both are documented. you throw out shit seabeyond Sep 2013 #86

If you are talking about projection, you really are missing the big fat wad of irony that you Squinch Sep 2013 #97

You're the bully ismnotwasm Sep 2013 #102

Can't we do better than 'lust'? ismnotwasm Sep 2013 #107

you know? really huh. lol. only men lust. those women have it easy. geeezus seabeyond Sep 2013 #76

What the hell? ismnotwasm Sep 2013 #52

i keep seeing that face. seabeyond Sep 2013 #77

Its Pris in he movie Bladerunner ismnotwasm Sep 2013 #101

ah. thank you. nt seabeyond Sep 2013 #109

Are you seriously unable to distinguish between children and adults? BainsBane Sep 2013 #213

Somehow I miss these posts from the bottom of the cesspool, & I'm glad. -nt CrispyQ Sep 2013 #16

i walked away from it when it first hit latest thread. knew it was one i never wanted seabeyond Sep 2013 #23

I saw that and could not move a way fast enough--how damned creepy... hlthe2b Sep 2013 #22

wasnt it? isnt it? and here is sits in du. on a fucking progressive board that protects children seabeyond Sep 2013 #42

Yeah. A little bird linked me to that ... redqueen Sep 2013 #44

Who asked such a thing? R. Daneel Olivaw Sep 2013 #46

Good God ismnotwasm Sep 2013 #49

I've seen some attractive teenagers at my daughter's high school. redqueen Sep 2013 #64

Exactly ismnotwasm Sep 2013 #67

EXACTLY. It is disgusting. redqueen Sep 2013 #69

"compared to me, they are children." exactly. nt seabeyond Sep 2013 #79

very good. very very good. adn this should be explored in its own OP so men will realize seabeyond Sep 2013 #78

eew that is kinda creepy gopiscrap Sep 2013 #74

saw that yesterday and could barely believe it was coming from a long time member - Kali Sep 2013 #80

kali... seabeyond Sep 2013 #81

I have no idea what you're talking about. Link? pitbullgirl1965 Sep 2013 #93

Can someone please link to the thread? Sheldon Cooper Sep 2013 #94

Never mind, I just figured it out. Sheldon Cooper Sep 2013 #98

I am officially creeped out by some of the responses in this thread. boston bean Sep 2013 #96

i hear ya bb. nt seabeyond Sep 2013 #99

So. Am. I. And talk about DEFENSIVENESS --not to mention deep resentment at the disturbing sense of MotherPetrie Sep 2013 #105

now it is being said it is all about may/dec relationships with adults. so where does pedophilia seabeyond Sep 2013 #110

I can umderstand why they'd delete it and try to spin it as a "May-December" issue. redqueen Sep 2013 #114

Facts are facts DonCoquixote Sep 2013 #108

thank you don. and how easy is that. that fuckin simple. and that simple to shut the disgusting seabeyond Sep 2013 #111

That was yet another thread I passed over and didn't really think about. Now I kind of regret that. nomorenomore08 Sep 2013 #115

and then to pretend it wasn't about BainsBane Sep 2013 #123

Yup. Delete and put out how they will be accused of something not said. Pedophilia seabeyond Sep 2013 #124

The thread where the same men are arguing no responsibility in the rape culture. Right here seabeyond Sep 2013 #126

What is creepy is accusing people upaloopa Sep 2013 #127

AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service LittleBlue Sep 2013 #130

Go away. boston bean Sep 2013 #132

But there's disruptive behavior to assist with! redqueen Sep 2013 #138

I assisted, glad the community abrogates their responsibility and wants hosts to handle it all. boston bean Sep 2013 #148

our fault. not being nice enough discussing our men lusting after our daughters. nt seabeyond Sep 2013 #150

No one accused you of anything. nt boston bean Sep 2013 #131

and those that defend a man asking how young can we lust after our girls without being considered seabeyond Sep 2013 #135

If you have to ask, you're being creepy. gtar100 Sep 2013 #128

i have been thinking about this. and i think... the poster as much as anything wanted to bond and seabeyond Sep 2013 #136

You're such an optimist. nt redqueen Sep 2013 #137

i believe a lot of these men don't want to fuck our kids. kids are a tool for their manhood in front seabeyond Sep 2013 #139

even more than sex, their image of their manhood takes precedent to decency and all things. seabeyond Sep 2013 #141

pretty fucking creepy ... I know - it was rhetorical but, you asked! Tuesday Afternoon Sep 2013 #142

From my pov, the question is creepy because it is asking for permission... Moonwalk Sep 2013 #155

It's not moot ismnotwasm Sep 2013 #164

In what forum is this thread in you are talking about? hrmjustin Sep 2013 #156

It was self deleted ismnotwasm Sep 2013 #165

Lol I checked the men's room because I figured it was from there. It was. hrmjustin Sep 2013 #166

Ew. ismnotwasm Sep 2013 #170

I stopped posting there. Than again I never really did post there. hrmjustin Sep 2013 #173

the other thing they specialize in BainsBane Sep 2013 #174

They're out whining in GD now ismnotwasm Sep 2013 #177

They can't get over Iverglas BainsBane Sep 2013 #179

Oh I know! ismnotwasm Sep 2013 #181

3 IP checks BainsBane Sep 2013 #182

OMG, it would be hilarious if she was still reading ... redqueen Sep 2013 #183

She's their ultimate nemesis ismnotwasm Sep 2013 #184

I think her biggest fan BainsBane Sep 2013 #214

someone threw iverglas and eloise at me in one of the threads. didnt think much of it, or know what seabeyond Sep 2013 #215

Huh. Well, it isn't normal for a grown man to lust after children. Deep13 Sep 2013 #157

The problem is that a thread like that can show up on a supposedly liberal, progressive, Sheldon Cooper Sep 2013 #161

Yep. It's (sadly not) amazing that this important point isn't glaringly obvious to everyone. (nt) redqueen Sep 2013 #180

I never liked like the DU juries... Deep13 Sep 2013 #212

The argument being made in this thread ismnotwasm Sep 2013 #167

are you kidding? BainsBane Sep 2013 #169

Nope ismnotwasm Sep 2013 #171

1-5 to leave BainsBane Sep 2013 #172

And this is why it's intellectually lazy, very sick ismnotwasm Sep 2013 #175

The only similarity is that neither can control his/her desires. Deep13 Sep 2013 #211

Woe!!!!! No one asked me !!! Mental excess of any kind tells a story orpupilofnature57 Sep 2013 #176

Thank you! ismnotwasm Sep 2013 #178

I just watched ' Blade Runner ' for the Zillionth time, my wife asked why orpupilofnature57 Sep 2013 #209

Now I have to watch it again! ismnotwasm Sep 2013 #210

I also have all three versions, this is the scene that made me a believer . orpupilofnature57 Sep 2013 #220

I'm rather ignorant regarding this entire subject. I have gut feelings about such things... BlueJazz Sep 2013 #207

"...brings to mind heartbreak and evil things..." Which I guess is why the post in the Men's Group nomorenomore08 Sep 2013 #218

I'm usually a day late and a dollar short in regards to this stuff. LanternWaste Sep 2013 #231

Ya... seabeyond Sep 2013 #237