2016 Postmortem

libdem4life

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15. What made it worse was that it was in the Oval Office...a politically sacred place in

Mon Jan 11, 2016, 10:21 PM

Jan 2016

an American's life. When it was in seedy, or fix-me-up Bubba...is one thing. At least there was some element of shame. But day in and day out, he walked in and out of that office knowing that everyone knew...what hutzpah.

Hillary...yeah, she stayed for the politics, of that I'm convinced. But now she's got to run against a Bernie Sanders who doesn't want to play the dirty attack games. She could probably beat most anyone in that particular arena.

So, what's she going to do...other than send Bill out to campaign? She's got all these endorsements because of her years and background, but Bernie has the personal character that shows through.

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Bill Clinton's Sexual Past is 'Totally Disgraceful' [View all] RobertEarl Jan 2016 OP

Water under the bridge. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2016 #1

Disagree RobertEarl Jan 2016 #4

So let's say my husband cheated on me The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2016 #8

I would not vote for you RobertEarl Jan 2016 #10

You wouldn't vote for me because my husband cheated on me The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2016 #14

Oval office? RobertEarl Jan 2016 #22

But you are blaming Hillary for what her horndog husband did. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2016 #25

+1 emulatorloo Jan 2016 #27

Treachery? RobertEarl Jan 2016 #31

Of course, Bill betrayed his marriage vows. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2016 #41

um, it's NOT "did". . . it was a pattern of serial adultery with younger women zazen Jan 2016 #53

I don't especially care for her as a feminist role model, The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2016 #58

I think its fair game if you want to run for president Travis_0004 Jan 2016 #82

Are you serious? does that mean you wish we never had FDR? or JFK? they actually fooled around hollysmom Jan 2016 #91

GWB can go to hell RobertEarl Jan 2016 #94

my smears? I have not smeared anyone - perhaps you should look up the definition of smear. hollysmom Jan 2016 #99

i agree. nt DesertFlower Jan 2016 #76

I am with you Kalidurga Jan 2016 #88

are you sure that you are on the correct board? niyad Jan 2016 #2

No shit .. ronnykmarshall Jan 2016 #57

sadly, you are quite correct. I knew that the attacks on her from the other side would be niyad Jan 2016 #65

2008 was horrible. ronnykmarshall Jan 2016 #66

And this OP is proof that a lot of it is sexist to the core. Squinch Jan 2016 #71

exactly!! niyad Jan 2016 #73

well said. nt DesertFlower Jan 2016 #77

It isn't our business how their marriage is dsc Jan 2016 #3

Like I say RobertEarl Jan 2016 #6

Gee, Bob. You ought to tell all the gals how you think they should conduct their marraiges. Squinch Jan 2016 #5

Only if they want my vote. RobertEarl Jan 2016 #9

Gee, Bob, why don't you write her a little note so you can tell her how to conduct her marraige. Squinch Jan 2016 #13

Doesn't your candidate have a son born out of wedlock?* FSogol Jan 2016 #20

Let's dig into your closet and find out RandySF Jan 2016 #30

That chirping sound you hear is crickets. Read post #84 oasis Jan 2016 #93

Might I ask whose penis you won't be voting for? Nt NCTraveler Jan 2016 #33

Honey, no one WANTS your penis. ronnykmarshall Jan 2016 #69

I don't even care when Republicans screw around. immoderate Jan 2016 #7

you have, of course, excoriated vitter, craig, ensign, nixon, and all the family values niyad Jan 2016 #11

I do not agree that Hillary should have left him even though his behavior WAS disgusting... Luminous Animal Jan 2016 #12

What made it worse was that it was in the Oval Office...a politically sacred place in libdem4life Jan 2016 #15

Personal character, indeed RobertEarl Jan 2016 #19

Bullshit. A lot more crappy stuff has occured in that office before you ever FSogol Jan 2016 #23

Need a fainting hanky? What did they used to do...have orgies? libdem4life Jan 2016 #36

LOL, Read Kitty Kelly's biography of the Reagans and the Oval Office will lose FSogol Jan 2016 #49

You forgot to mention LBJ lied the country into a war there and ruined a generation. cherokeeprogressive Jan 2016 #68

You could write volumes on crap that happened there before you ever got to FSogol Jan 2016 #70

Nancy screwed Frank in the Oval? Do tell. hedda_foil Jan 2016 #95

Bill Clinton is not running, and Hillary's decision about her marriage is none of your damn business emulatorloo Jan 2016 #16

You said it best. Thank you. Honestly, this is getting ridiculous. Squinch Jan 2016 #24

+1, Well said. n/t FSogol Jan 2016 #26

Yup. Agschmid Jan 2016 #39

And apparently she only has "power" if she stays married to him. arcane1 Jan 2016 #42

Exactly. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2016 #44

+1 n/t tammywammy Jan 2016 #60

I have to agree. I think we should get out of people's bedrooms artislife Jan 2016 #85

Have at it. This is so far over the top. NCTraveler Jan 2016 #17

I agree it compromised his integrity but much more importantly it made him -and so the country - JudyM Jan 2016 #18

We had a beloved president who shared a girlfriend with a mob boss and survived. DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2016 #48

I hear ya. My standards would be the same. The problem is loss of subjectivity and vulnerability JudyM Jan 2016 #56

I'm puzzled by his utter lack of judgment-knowing full well that his enemies were salivating like Douglas Carpenter Jan 2016 #21

More beloved presidents have done infinitely worse. Please See Post 48... DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2016 #59

As someone once said jehop61 Jan 2016 #28

But this is even worse. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2016 #32

Then there is Iraq RobertEarl Jan 2016 #35

I didn't know there were so many Republicans on DU. RandySF Jan 2016 #29

I think the Bundy minions from Fort Gift Shop have infiltrated DU. And they snuck in the Duggers. Squinch Jan 2016 #64

Who the fuck are we to tell her what the "right thing" is to do in HER marriage? arcane1 Jan 2016 #34

Oval office RobertEarl Jan 2016 #40

+1 Agschmid Jan 2016 #43

this isn't 1950 bigtree Jan 2016 #37

Jury results TacoD Jan 2016 #38

Dear juror 3, next time read the instructions on how juries work. Agschmid Jan 2016 #45

It is already a post in GDP. RobertEarl Jan 2016 #47

The whole jury system is bullshit. ronnykmarshall Jan 2016 #63

Bookmarking for later reference. Thinkingabout Jan 2016 #46

Bombing Iraq was even worse. RobertEarl Jan 2016 #50

Bombing Iraq is not the reason I am bookmarking. Thinkingabout Jan 2016 #51

Thank your sanctimonious lucky stars, Hillary stood by Bill. oasis Jan 2016 #52

Of the many, many reasons not to vote for Hillary... TDale313 Jan 2016 #54

My sentiments exactly. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2016 #61

Right from the right wing playbook ronnykmarshall Jan 2016 #55

FWIW, lots of Bernie supporters giving the OP hell for this egregious bullshit emulatorloo Jan 2016 #62

and I love you guys for that! ronnykmarshall Jan 2016 #67

Count me in! arcane1 Jan 2016 #74

Has this place hit rock bottom yet? Bleacher Creature Jan 2016 #72

And a jury let it pass. Squinch Jan 2016 #75

The OP should be banned. Dawson Leery Jan 2016 #81

Why? He's not 840high Jan 2016 #92

I brought up Henry Hyde's name in a thread the R B Garr Jan 2016 #83

I'd love to see a link. DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2016 #100

This message was self-deleted by its author DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2016 #78

How the two of them resolved things bvf Jan 2016 #79

His wife should have left him... one_voice Jan 2016 #80

Not just any woman RobertEarl Jan 2016 #84

wait..what? one_voice Jan 2016 #90

Yup. Agschmid Jan 2016 #110

Apparently, she took the opportunity to smear the intern. delrem Jan 2016 #104

One of the more disgusting reasons I heard for supporting Clinton loyalsister Jan 2016 #86

So is mine. And I'm a Bernie supporter. Scruffy1 Jan 2016 #87

I totally agree but I commend both of them for staying together doc03 Jan 2016 #89

Good for them RobertEarl Jan 2016 #97

0 recs, Bob. zappaman Jan 2016 #96

Who would recommend Bill Clinton's sexual history? Who? delrem Jan 2016 #103

Up to 1 rec now... So much for your hope. Agschmid Jan 2016 #111

I always distrust self-appointed spokespersons for 'the People' anigbrowl Jan 2016 #98

No. delrem Jan 2016 #102

Not my mother or any of my sisters, or any of my progressive woman friends delrem Jan 2016 #101

Why is she the one called upon to "do the right thing?" treestar Jan 2016 #105

Welcome to Republican Talking Points Underground? oberliner Jan 2016 #106

I'm still deciding who to vote for... nilesobek Jan 2016 #107

None of us can know Hillary's motives for staying... ljm2002 Jan 2016 #108

Kick. NCTraveler Jan 2016 #109

Kick NCTraveler Jan 2016 #112

Kick. nt. NCTraveler Jan 2016 #113

Hahaha RobertEarl Jan 2016 #114

Didn't get to me. I love transparency. NCTraveler Jan 2016 #115