2016 Postmortem

Kalidurga

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38. I like ponies

Reply to hill2016 (Original post)

Mon Nov 30, 2015, 12:45 AM

Nov 2015

what limits would you place on
- how long you can take to graduate

Same time frame as pell grants and loans

- who qualifies? is it entirely merit based? what about minority students?
Everyone, even the children of the rich.

- what degrees are allowed?

I don't care if someone wants a degree from film school. Yes, the study of film not making them just watching them and learning the history of film.

- are living expenses covered?

Yes
- do you cover professional and graduate degrees?

No
- do you have to maintain a minimum GPA during your studies?

Yes
- is there any lifetime limit to how much you can use?

Don't care.

- do you have to contribute back to society in any way after you graduate eg. higher taxes, public service, etc?

Yes, you will be paying higher taxes, because generally people with college degrees end up with better paying jobs.

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what limits would you have on the free public university thing? [View all] hill2016 Nov 2015 OP

Is that going to be Hillary's go-to message this year - limiting expectations? reformist2 Nov 2015 #1

she's doesn't hill2016 Nov 2015 #2

Perhaps "Yes We Can't!" should be her defeatist supporters battle cry! AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #50

Ponies and Rainbows eh? I'm curious where you'd have been.... Armstead Nov 2015 #69

I believe so. It is the 'We Can't' campaign. nt Live and Learn Nov 2015 #6

Hillary Clinton's running a civil forfeiture campaign Scootaloo Nov 2015 #53

Policies are things that get worked out. Ron Green Nov 2015 #3

and people hill2016 Nov 2015 #4

The problem is... kenfrequed Nov 2015 #9

And the jobs that she would require students to have. Where are they? Live and Learn Nov 2015 #28

Uhm... kenfrequed Nov 2015 #81

Uhm.. I was agreeing with you. nt Live and Learn Nov 2015 #82

When I was a kid in the segregated South, Ron Green Nov 2015 #13

But you don't counter-negotiate yourself before even coming to the table. Scootaloo Nov 2015 #55

Right on. Ed Suspicious Nov 2015 #8

I wouldn't expect living expenses to be paid because the schools should be plentiful Live and Learn Nov 2015 #5

Exactly. Not sure what is so hard to understand about this. Crystalite Nov 2015 #12

i asked what limits would you have? hill2016 Nov 2015 #15

And she answered. Did you actually read her post? nt Live and Learn Nov 2015 #20

Preference to undergrads, support for struggling students not available to stronger students Crystalite Nov 2015 #36

You must be about my age. They were actually free before our time. Live and Learn Nov 2015 #19

Yup! I was high school class of 74... Crystalite Nov 2015 #37

Oh, you are much older. Live and Learn Nov 2015 #39

Tuition history at UC Berkley jeff47 Nov 2015 #31

Before demanding some answers, how about bothering to learn some history? jeff47 Nov 2015 #7

Yes! kenfrequed Nov 2015 #11

i asked what limits would you have? hill2016 Nov 2015 #16

Still demanding? nt Live and Learn Nov 2015 #21

What limits were there when we did have free public university education? jeff47 Nov 2015 #26

Bernie Sanders' "College for All Act" puts in 2/3 federally for free tuition when Eric J in MN Nov 2015 #10

I asked what limits would you have? hill2016 Nov 2015 #17

Oh bother! nt Live and Learn Nov 2015 #24

I'd keep the current standards Eric J in MN Nov 2015 #27

Why would there have to be limits? AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #51

Google broken? Warren Stupidity Nov 2015 #14

i asked what limits would you have? hill2016 Nov 2015 #18

You tossed up a bunch of uninformed arggle Warren Stupidity Nov 2015 #22

In a nutshell, yes. nt Live and Learn Nov 2015 #25

sorry hill2016 Nov 2015 #35

Why do you believe there must be 'limits'? AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #52

My problem with Sanders plan is the funding approach mythology Nov 2015 #23

The "College for All Act" doesn't say that there is the same funding per student. Eric J in MN Nov 2015 #30

It only covers public colleges AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #54

there needs to be more equality in public school system first JI7 Nov 2015 #29

We are capable of multitasking. (nt) jeff47 Nov 2015 #32

not really JI7 Nov 2015 #40

Yes really. jeff47 Nov 2015 #41

no, i'm aruging that that free college will just mean those who are better off JI7 Nov 2015 #43

Why wait? Kentonio Nov 2015 #59

Why would it harm those who have much less? jeff47 Nov 2015 #75

This is bologna AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #79

I don't think some expectation of "giving back" is unreasonable: jonno99 Nov 2015 #33

Regarding living expenses Eric J in MN Nov 2015 #34

I like ponies Kalidurga Nov 2015 #38

I attended the University of California from 1963 until I graduated in 1966 tularetom Nov 2015 #42

Actually, we need to expand upon Bernie's plan... we need to forgive $1 trillion in student loans! reformist2 Nov 2015 #44

AMEN! pinebox Nov 2015 #48

Legitimate question that needs to be asked Gman Nov 2015 #45

Enough with the stupid snark already. We get it, you support the 1%. litlbilly Nov 2015 #46

About 70% of American high school graduates (or roughly 50% of the age cohort) go to college Recursion Nov 2015 #58

Germany is low compared to other OECD states. But that number is rising Warren Stupidity Nov 2015 #62

What Germany calls 'trade schools' AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #80

Talk to me Goose, my son is German and is in University. pinebox Nov 2015 #47

About half as many Germans go to college as Americans per capita Recursion Nov 2015 #57

your numbers appear to be dubious. Warren Stupidity Nov 2015 #63

No, they don't (nt) Recursion Nov 2015 #65

Yeah they are. Warren Stupidity Nov 2015 #67

So did I. You're wrong Recursion Nov 2015 #68

Do you know WHY that is though? pinebox Nov 2015 #73

Well, not perfectly free. About $100-200 per semester. DetlefK Nov 2015 #60

check this out pinebox Nov 2015 #74

Well, I studied in Germany. DetlefK Nov 2015 #77

I lived there as non military, x wife is German pinebox Nov 2015 #78

Okay, best answers. LoveIsNow Nov 2015 #49

It's an important question. Fewer Europeans go to college than Americans Recursion Nov 2015 #56

Just an example how Germany does it: DetlefK Nov 2015 #61

I would exclude the Trumps lovemydog Nov 2015 #64

The ponies and ice cream promises... NCTraveler Nov 2015 #66

Better to aim for ponies and unicorns that Hogs and Wolves /nt Armstead Nov 2015 #70

Pipe dreams and ponies? Heaven forbid we have an educated populace. Vinca Nov 2015 #71

what limits would you place on LWolf Nov 2015 #72

When I went to a state college in California in the 1960s, MineralMan Nov 2015 #76

For most on DU, the limit is actually having to pay taxes on it taught_me_patience Nov 2015 #83