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PatrickforO

(14,640 posts)
30. Sanders has a decent record on civil rights, and a very good platform for minorities.
Fri Nov 27, 2015, 03:41 PM
Nov 2015

Honestly, I think you're splitting some hairs here, because what you seem to be saying is that Bernie isn't pure enough on civil rights, therefore I'm going to post a thread that in effect denigrates his platform now by casting aspersion on his legislative record. Also it bothers me that people downplay the courage it took to march with King and the old civil rights movement. Because those arrests could have gone south awful quick, and Bernie could have been like some others and gotten killed. That was some serious shit.

And for you and other Clinton surrogates to say, 'well what's he done lately?' and denigrate those things he did in his youth without ALSO laying out line by line, exhaustively detailed record of everything Clinton has done for civil rights is pretty self-serving to say the least. That Civil Rights march in 1963 served to apply the pressure needed to pass the Civil Rights Act. So Bernie was 22 when he marched and probably didn't get very near King. So what? He and 200,000 other people SHOWED up.

The other self-serving thing about this, George, is this: no one person is gonna be able to move the needle on institutional racism. With Clinton you'll get more of the same, because her actions in the Senate, during the 08 campaign against Obama and now in 2015 have proven, to me at least, that she cares much more about getting elected than actually upholding the interests of the common American man or woman once she is elected. Bernie is TELLING us he can't do it alone and calling for us to become involved at a much greater level - a political revolution he's calling it.

This, George, is a defective meme. It really is. The Sanders platform will benefit minorities to a greater degree than whites, though we'll all benefit. Sanders isn't Superman - we all know that. But he's the ONLY one right now speaking truth to power.

Clinton represents power.

Which do you want?

Great vid silenttigersong Nov 2015 #1
Good for Senator Sanders for reaching out ismnotwasm Nov 2015 #2
He has been reaching out for over 50 years. Live and Learn Nov 2015 #12
Read the article ....yes...read the article! AlbertCat Nov 2015 #17
But curiously neither he nor any of his followers have been able to present a comprehensive... George II Nov 2015 #19
Yes, it is truly a fucking shame that Bernie Live and Learn Nov 2015 #21
You just mention what he didn't do, how about some of those accomplishments... George II Nov 2015 #26
I'd say quite a bit has been accomplished on the Civil Rghts front in the last 50 years. Live and Learn Nov 2015 #32
You can lead a horse to water a thousand times AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #42
And sometimes they don't follow you because they're drinking kool-aid and alert stalking. cui bono Nov 2015 #60
That poster is shameless. Otherwise, he'd be too embarrassed to show his face. Comrade Grumpy Nov 2015 #67
All the Cavers are as evidenced by them showing their faces after the screenshots seen posted here. cui bono Nov 2015 #71
Awesome! AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #114
Yawn George II Nov 2015 #145
But you're still at a loss to mention any of those things he's accomplished. Quite telling. George II Nov 2015 #144
i'm surprised you would request an accounting of hopemountain Nov 2015 #79
She probably became a "Democrat" Art_from_Ark Nov 2015 #120
Here is a little bit history of that time from the KABF website LiberalArkie Nov 2015 #127
^^^^^ If there is a reason to not vote for Hillary then this is it. LiberalArkie Nov 2015 #128
Clinton's record has nothing to do with this discussion, which is about Sanders' "record".... George II Nov 2015 #132
Has nothing to do with this discussion, thank you. George II Nov 2015 #131
Pardon me, but I started the friggen thread so don't tell me what belongs in it. Thank you. nt Live and Learn Nov 2015 #133
You did? Do you have two accounts on this site? George II Nov 2015 #134
The thread you are responding to which is quite different than claiming to be the OP. Live and Learn Nov 2015 #136
Still off topic - this is about Sanders' civil rights record, not Clinton's. George II Nov 2015 #137
Congratulations on your appointment as DU post monitor. Live and Learn Nov 2015 #138
Sanders has a decent record on civil rights, and a very good platform for minorities. PatrickforO Nov 2015 #30
+++ a trillions of gazillions ^^^ nt hopemountain Nov 2015 #78
And he's Honest . orpupilofnature57 Nov 2015 #123
Well, you can start with AlbertCat Nov 2015 #34
But he has a "50-year record going back to the early 1950s when he was a High School student". George II Nov 2015 #39
You are free to think what you like but it is a documented fact. nt Live and Learn Nov 2015 #45
A little math: George II Nov 2015 #47
Still no concrete accomplishments AlbertCat Nov 2015 #70
What's your "concrete accomplishments" in life brentspeak Nov 2015 #146
LOL. But he does have another very, very! important accomplishment here. polly7 Nov 2015 #148
Sometimes certain people.....Oh never mind Armstead Nov 2015 #115
Funny, the very same criticism has been directed at Hillary.. whathehell Nov 2015 #130
I meant into context of recent events ismnotwasm Nov 2015 #20
Many of those "bridges" Sanders built 40 years ago, bvar22 Nov 2015 #52
Ok. ismnotwasm Nov 2015 #81
+ 1 We have no other candidate like him. senz Nov 2015 #54
But for whatever reason, Sanders hasn't been able to translate that into support from minorities mythology Nov 2015 #89
K and R bigwillq Nov 2015 #3
K&R - Let's do this!! nt 99th_Monkey Nov 2015 #4
In my heart of hearts, enough is enough is enough. Stand together because divided we will fall. Hiraeth Nov 2015 #5
either we have solidarity, or we fight among ourselves: simple as that MisterP Nov 2015 #15
exactly what the corporations and big money hopemountain Nov 2015 #149
k & r. Thanks for posting. nm rhett o rick Nov 2015 #6
K&R n/t NikolaC Nov 2015 #7
Such a good video ornotna Nov 2015 #8
Yes. Rebkeh Nov 2015 #9
Wonderful video - absolutely inspiring! Divernan Nov 2015 #10
Together we stand... Great video. Thank you. nt Live and Learn Nov 2015 #11
But of course.... AlbertCat Nov 2015 #13
Enough is enough is enough! Paka Nov 2015 #14
K&R nt Zorra Nov 2015 #16
Love the R.Kelly I BELIEVE background music... 1monster Nov 2015 #18
Sanders is trying too hard, and it is getting weird. Buzz Clik Nov 2015 #22
LOL at the meme change. First he is not trying hard enough. Now he is trying too hard. Live and Learn Nov 2015 #23
You have got to be kidding Buzz Clik Nov 2015 #24
Is he really doing that? ismnotwasm Nov 2015 #25
They DU Sanders crowd is trying to rationalize it: Buzz Clik Nov 2015 #37
Oh my God. PLEASE tell me that is some random, clueless DUer's attempt at Photoshop Number23 Nov 2015 #44
It is from his website. Buzz Clik Nov 2015 #49
Dear God... Number23 Nov 2015 #50
Buzz Click is feeding you a line of bull. Luminous Animal Nov 2015 #56
Probably just trying to fit in with everyone else doing the same. Number23 Nov 2015 #57
No it is not. And I dare you to find it there. It appears that is was created by Luminous Animal Nov 2015 #55
Wrong again. This is from his website: Live and Learn Nov 2015 #74
This message was self-deleted by its author neverforget Nov 2015 #77
Link? cui bono Nov 2015 #83
They lie Doctor_J Nov 2015 #91
Stop lying jfern Nov 2015 #97
Surprise! You got alerted on. Not. A. Surprise. Cha Nov 2015 #118
And notice how they were so determined to get that hide that they not only lied about what I said Number23 Nov 2015 #142
OH MY GOD!!! bravenak Nov 2015 #94
Hmmm, I would expect better from you. Live and Learn Nov 2015 #100
NOBODY should have created THAT bravenak Nov 2015 #101
I disagree but the fact is Bernie did not. nt Live and Learn Nov 2015 #102
I did not think Bernie did. bravenak Nov 2015 #105
Sanders does not have the stature of Skidmore Nov 2015 #126
There is no plastering MLK on campaign posters. SoapBox Nov 2015 #29
She constantly campaigning ismnotwasm Nov 2015 #33
Call it what you like: Buzz Clik Nov 2015 #36
That's not one of his campaign posters. riderinthestorm Nov 2015 #61
I like it and it is appropriate Fairgo Nov 2015 #66
That. Is fucked up. ismnotwasm Nov 2015 #82
Gosh it's so horrible to want to appeal to the values of MLK and FDR Armstead Nov 2015 #116
And Henry Kissinger. kath Nov 2015 #119
Please post your proof that Bernie has ever done so. Thanks in advance. Live and Learn Nov 2015 #31
.. Buzz Clik Nov 2015 #35
Bernie did that himself? Wow, he is good. Live and Learn Nov 2015 #38
Actually it sucks. Really sucks. Buzz Clik Nov 2015 #41
I like it. To each his own, I guess. nt Live and Learn Nov 2015 #43
LOL!!! Love how this morphed: Buzz Clik Nov 2015 #48
All true statements. nt Live and Learn Nov 2015 #65
Who the fuck cares about this non-issue of a poster? Comrade Grumpy Nov 2015 #68
+1000 BeanMusical Nov 2015 #113
What makes you think he even knows it exists? It was not created by his campaign. It is not on his Luminous Animal Nov 2015 #58
From a design standpoint.... smiley Nov 2015 #63
"Not Good Enough" was oh so long ago arcane1 Nov 2015 #28
They are flip-flopping on all their anti-Bernie positions! cui bono Nov 2015 #72
You mean the "not good enough Bernie" crowd was playing a cynical race game? pa28 Nov 2015 #73
They really are too much. They deflect, they twist, they turn, they dodge, they weave, they kath Nov 2015 #112
This message was self-deleted by its author Cheese Sandwich Nov 2015 #80
Me thinks though doth project too much. raouldukelives Nov 2015 #124
K & R! SoapBox Nov 2015 #27
Post removed Post removed Nov 2015 #40
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Nov 2015 #46
K&R -- Excellent video, brought tears. senz Nov 2015 #51
When Bernie unexpectedly met Sandra Bland's mother and sister ... senz Nov 2015 #53
I remember when a candidate was considered libdem4life Nov 2015 #59
BUMP quantass Nov 2015 #62
Wow Duckfan Nov 2015 #64
These tired meme again? Tarc Nov 2015 #69
Needs more Cornel West...nt SidDithers Nov 2015 #75
Watch the racist tone. We don't permit that kind of garbage here. DisgustipatedinCA Nov 2015 #135
... SidDithers Nov 2015 #140
I call people for the PDA on a regular basis and Bernie has many African American supporters, why orpupilofnature57 Nov 2015 #76
Hillary and Obama= sheshe2 Nov 2015 #84
Actually, you don't get it... MrMickeysMom Nov 2015 #85
Lol~ sheshe2 Nov 2015 #86
Oooh.. MrMickeysMom Nov 2015 #90
Trust me, I want it to stay visable sheshe2 Nov 2015 #92
You sure do.... MrMickeysMom Nov 2015 #93
But probably Not Good Enough. cui bono Nov 2015 #96
Esoteric orpupilofnature57 Nov 2015 #122
Did someone say "kick"?..... Segami Nov 2015 #98
Yes I saw someone say this should be kicked so here's Autumn Nov 2015 #107
LOL bravenak Nov 2015 #88
Not Good Enough, sheshe... cui bono Nov 2015 #95
This is helping Bernie with the black vote. bravenak Nov 2015 #99
I guess. sheshe2 Nov 2015 #103
Ha! bravenak Nov 2015 #106
I stole~ sheshe2 Nov 2015 #108
You like that, eh? bravenak Nov 2015 #109
Yes I do. sheshe2 Nov 2015 #110
The blood took me aback. bravenak Nov 2015 #111
You got 1% of what I said, and Yes as far as the oligarchy, their the same, Sorry . orpupilofnature57 Nov 2015 #121
I find the same tableing for Bernie. Many are just now learning about him and they like Live and Learn Nov 2015 #104
Nice job! k&r polichick Nov 2015 #87
This video brought tears to my eyes. BigBearJohn Nov 2015 #117
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2015 #125
Most African-Americans have been unaware of Bernie Sanders. DrBulldog Nov 2015 #129
Agree. Data indicates that as people come to know him they come to love him. PROOF: Crystalite Nov 2015 #139
That's some LWolf Nov 2015 #141
Not possible. 99Forever Nov 2015 #143
HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Nov 2015 #147
great video! hopemountain Nov 2015 #150
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