2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: A plea to my fellow Bernie comrades: It’s time to start taking left-wing sexism seriously [View all]merrily
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1. Tried to avoiding a constitutional amendment -- This is both nonsensical and untrue. You pass a bill in Congress with a simple majority, unless there is a filibuster. If there is a Senate filibuster, you need 2/3 in the Senate, but still a simple majority in the House and 3/4 of state legislatures.* No even mildly controversial Constitutional amendment has passed since the Eisenhower Administration.
Some of the bad bills, such as Hillary's unconstitutional flag desecration bill, could not even make it out of Congress. And, after her first bill could not even make it out of Congress--indicating zero chance of a Constitutional Amendment, she tried again to get through Congress the following year and failed again. (Mercifully, ceremonial bills were the ones Hillary was able to pass.) There was never a Constitutional threat relating to DOMA, either. Google it, folks.
2. It was a veto-proof majority anyway (Bill only on this one) However, when you dig a little, you find Republicans wanted the bill and probably could have passed it with a simple majority, but his WH lobbied hard to get that veto proof majority from Democrats in Congress solely to create his ability to claim a veto proof majority. Had he opposed the bill instead of lobbying for it, he could have vetoed easily and successfully.
Moreover, no majority can honestly be called veto-proof until the veto has actually been exercised and failed. Once members of Congress, especially those from the President's own party, see the President opposes it, votes change.
Both excuses are trying to have it both ways, even if the truth has to be stretched, another familiar pattern. See also, Reply 35.
*edited to correct to 3/4 of state legislatures dsc, to correct bolding error and to add reference to Reply 35