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The Hole in Hillarys Flip-Flop Excuse
She keeps saying new information makes her change her mind on policy. But what new information?
Hillary Clinton has a propensity to change her mind on big issues. She has reversed her positions on gay marriage, immigration, gun control, the Trans-Pacific Partnership trade pact, mass incarceration and the Iraq War, and some believe her recent stand on the Keystone XL pipeline constitutes a flip, too.
Everybody agrees that changing facts can justify a change in ones view. But Clintons insistence that learning about new or better information propels her reassessments prompts this question: What was the new information?
To my knowledge, no new information about gay marriage emerged from the day she endorsed civil unions for same-sex couples to the day she demanded the right to same-sex marriage. The immigration, gun control and mass-incarceration issues have been similarly unrippled by shocking new findings. Likewise, the information required to make a stand against the Iraq War was not hidden. Other senators found it and took that position! Perhaps the anti-war information escaped Clintons noticein which case, bad on heror perhaps she viewed it and decided not to act on itin which case, double-bad on her. And who among us had a better vantage from which to assemble an encyclopedic view on the Trans-Pacific Partnership than Clinton? She praised it endlessly while secretary of state, but pulled a moonshiners turn last week to skedaddle away from it.
If Clinton lived in Gobles, Michigan, had no library card and no Internet connection, we could accept her new-information excuse. But for the past 25 years, Clinton has had some of the best researchers at her disposala private staff, a campaign staff, the wizards at the State Department staff, a senatorial staff, the busy beavers from the Congressional Research Service and the White House staff. And, in fact, every indication and story we know about Hillary Clintons policy work belabors just how much she studies and learns. So if new or better information has been the impetus for her policy shifts, she must concede that she has a fat history of taking the wrong position in the early going and then requiring a re-do. The constant need for re-dos appears to indicate that shed make a lousy surgeon and a bad 3 a.m. president.
Read more: http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/10/democratic-debate-hillary-clinton-flip-flop-213247#ixzz3qumxy6T2
She keeps saying new information makes her change her mind on policy. But what new information?
Hillary Clinton has a propensity to change her mind on big issues. She has reversed her positions on gay marriage, immigration, gun control, the Trans-Pacific Partnership trade pact, mass incarceration and the Iraq War, and some believe her recent stand on the Keystone XL pipeline constitutes a flip, too.
Everybody agrees that changing facts can justify a change in ones view. But Clintons insistence that learning about new or better information propels her reassessments prompts this question: What was the new information?
To my knowledge, no new information about gay marriage emerged from the day she endorsed civil unions for same-sex couples to the day she demanded the right to same-sex marriage. The immigration, gun control and mass-incarceration issues have been similarly unrippled by shocking new findings. Likewise, the information required to make a stand against the Iraq War was not hidden. Other senators found it and took that position! Perhaps the anti-war information escaped Clintons noticein which case, bad on heror perhaps she viewed it and decided not to act on itin which case, double-bad on her. And who among us had a better vantage from which to assemble an encyclopedic view on the Trans-Pacific Partnership than Clinton? She praised it endlessly while secretary of state, but pulled a moonshiners turn last week to skedaddle away from it.
If Clinton lived in Gobles, Michigan, had no library card and no Internet connection, we could accept her new-information excuse. But for the past 25 years, Clinton has had some of the best researchers at her disposala private staff, a campaign staff, the wizards at the State Department staff, a senatorial staff, the busy beavers from the Congressional Research Service and the White House staff. And, in fact, every indication and story we know about Hillary Clintons policy work belabors just how much she studies and learns. So if new or better information has been the impetus for her policy shifts, she must concede that she has a fat history of taking the wrong position in the early going and then requiring a re-do. The constant need for re-dos appears to indicate that shed make a lousy surgeon and a bad 3 a.m. president.
Read more: http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/10/democratic-debate-hillary-clinton-flip-flop-213247#ixzz3qumxy6T2
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Yes - The Flip Flopper In Chief - Has - Flopper Flipped - One Too Many Times To Be Credible
cantbeserious
Nov 2015
#1
We knew what was going on with Bush and Iraq after 9/11. We knew what was behind the Iraq war drums
Autumn
Nov 2015
#2
War was for the profiteers, not the people. In 2011-12, Clinton and her team helped remove
DhhD
Nov 2015
#17
Adding several links to the destruction of PEMA. Clinton delivered Mexico to the TPP.
DhhD
Nov 2015
#58
Yes. But, when she makes a "Hard Choice" to flip she looks "presidential". According to some.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Nov 2015
#4
With all "Trials and Tribulations" it makes one wonder what could possibly motivate
FreakinDJ
Nov 2015
#8
+1 Is there a single issue that she wouldn't flip-flop on if the polls were saying that it would
BeanMusical
Nov 2015
#41
Meme du jour, and for the rest of the campaign because that is all there is left for the right wing.
Fred Sanders
Nov 2015
#22
Name recognition, people have been familiar with the name Clinton for a couple of decades nationally
That Guy 888
Nov 2015
#31
Because she's the candidate of Big Money, and everyone in the DNC is on board with Big Money.
reformist2
Nov 2015
#38
"a fat history of taking the wrong position in the early going and then requiring a re-do"
cherokeeprogressive
Nov 2015
#33