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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Bernie did NOT categorically oppose gay marriage . . . [View all]jeff47
(26,549 posts)42. Because dishonorable discharges are fantastic!!
You don't seem to be aware of how bad it was before DADT.
You don't seem to be aware that the rate of people harmed going up is a bad thing.
But it WAS an improvement and the only compromise the Dems could get through Congress given the fervent opposition of the Joint Chiefs.
Yes, we can't expect the military to obey the commander in chief. There isn't even some sort of mechanism to punish someone who disobeys orders. That's why revealing one was gay under DADT lead to nothing.
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Perhaps when Sanders has pointed out more than once the DOMA and Bill Clinton signed the bill
Thinkingabout
Oct 2015
#1
Who brought up DOMA, did Bill Clinton or Bernie Sanders? Do you know the vote on this bill?
Thinkingabout
Oct 2015
#4
"of her husband's position on gay marriage", Bill Clinton is not running, Hillary is.
Thinkingabout
Oct 2015
#10
If you are going to talk about the candidates answering questions honestly then we have to hold both
Thinkingabout
Oct 2015
#14
Bill Clinton used his DOMA vote to pander to anti-gay forces & also pandered to anti-choice forces
virtualobserver
Oct 2015
#3
Is Bernie trying to do what is best for gay people in Vermont in light of the fact this has already
Thinkingabout
Oct 2015
#5
Yes, because all people need to know that their President isn't bullshitting them....
virtualobserver
Oct 2015
#7
The point is Bernie has been on the side of LGBT folks his entire career . . .
markpkessinger
Oct 2015
#8
Just where do you think Hillary has been? If it is good enough to say Sanders has been on the side
Thinkingabout
Oct 2015
#12
She was categorically opposed to same sex marriage until what, two years ago? n/t
markpkessinger
Oct 2015
#13
A lot of people opposed same sex marriage, it does not mean Clinton has not fought for LGBT
Thinkingabout
Oct 2015
#15
They can't run from her record on marriage equality so they attack Bernie's.
beam me up scottie
Oct 2015
#18
An "improvement" that resulted in a far higher rate of discharge of servicemembers for being gay...
markpkessinger
Oct 2015
#37