2016 Postmortem

JaneyVee

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5. The hate and vitriol on DU has made me question liberalism and

Fri Oct 9, 2015, 10:19 AM

Oct 2015

Liberals in general. Luckily, I know real liberals who keep me tethered to reality and actually practice what they preach.

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Steve Leser for VP! [View all] DanTex Oct 2015 OP

I don't think hate means what you think it means. aikoaiko Oct 2015 #1

I don't think "progressive" means what he thinks, either. Scuba Oct 2015 #28

I think he may be trying to redeem the word BainsBane Oct 2015 #107

I'm not too sure he's that clear on what 'DU' mean either (nt) muriel_volestrangler Oct 2015 #135

damn it! Leser is outpolling me!!! wyldwolf Oct 2015 #2

He's a guy, what'd ya expect? leftofcool Oct 2015 #4

So am I last I checked.. I mean... wyldwolf Oct 2015 #11

ROFLMAO! leftofcool Oct 2015 #16

I like that. Come on, Steve, throw your hat into the ring! leftofcool Oct 2015 #3

The hate and vitriol on DU has made me question liberalism and JaneyVee Oct 2015 #5

Take heart DFW Oct 2015 #54

Fortunately for you zalinda Oct 2015 #78

+10 - well put. nt 99th_Monkey Oct 2015 #82

. Marty McGraw Oct 2015 #83

Bernie supporters are on average wealthier than Hillary supporters. DanTex Oct 2015 #88

Might that change once Vermonters are only a small portion? Hortensis Oct 2015 #121

Right, beware the limousine liberals, they're everywhere DFW Oct 2015 #94

And, IMO, yours sounds like classic "where's mine" belated populism. Hortensis Oct 2015 #122

Very well said. I have 'hung out' also with the elite of the Dem party (it was a summer job sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #131

+ another Scuba Oct 2015 #137

Suuuuure. It's DU that's caused that. Scootaloo Oct 2015 #61

Whatever this is, JaneyVee, it's NOT liberalism. Liberals are Hortensis Oct 2015 #119

Really? zalinda Oct 2015 #145

Good night, Zalinda. Hortensis Oct 2015 #146

Great post DJ13 Oct 2015 #157

Just when I think you've reached the summit of Mount Inanity... whatchamacallit Oct 2015 #6

Didn't Obama rename Mt Inanity recently to Denial? Warren Stupidity Oct 2015 #143

You don't understand, and misuse, the word "hate." You insult those who have been victims of morningfog Oct 2015 #7

Oy vey William769 Oct 2015 #13

Yes yes, Hillary supporters are victims of hate crimes by DUers. morningfog Oct 2015 #77

Hate and hate crimes are two different things. William769 Oct 2015 #81

I predict the misplaced bitterness will get worse sufrommich Oct 2015 #8

Who better to be her VP than someone who savaged her in 2008 whatchamacallit Oct 2015 #9

Really. It is like there is no awareness of irony or hypocrisy. n/t djean111 Oct 2015 #10

Performance art I'm starting to suspect Fumesucker Oct 2015 #15

He is consistent in that regard, I must admit. Scuba Oct 2015 #30

You want irony and hypocrisy? NanceGreggs Oct 2015 #96

Here's the thing - I consider that Bernie represents what Democrats SHOULD represent. djean111 Oct 2015 #104

Here's the thing ... NanceGreggs Oct 2015 #105

As if Hillary is not a political opportunist. djean111 Oct 2015 #106

I'll bet you're really good at picking the fleas off cats. senz Oct 2015 #111

Sometimes those "fleas" ... NanceGreggs Oct 2015 #112

Oohhh...yeah... senz Oct 2015 #113

He respected our party enough to run as a D and took plenty of grief from the far left for doing so. PotatoChip Oct 2015 #114

He respected our party enough to run as a D? NanceGreggs Oct 2015 #116

I appreciate the fact that he's respecting our wishes to not run as an Independent. PotatoChip Oct 2015 #123

Well, I don't share your "appreciation". NanceGreggs Oct 2015 #125

I'm well aware of what he said, since you guys keep parroting that one line over and over. PotatoChip Oct 2015 #129

Nance, is it painful to be so wrong so often? Scuba Oct 2015 #136

Wrong about what? NanceGreggs Oct 2015 #144

Hey, if a pro-war, pro-Wall Street, pro-fracking, pro-H1B Visas woman can be a Democrat ... Scuba Oct 2015 #148

Except he isn't a Democrat. NanceGreggs Oct 2015 #151

In case you've not noticed, Bernie is running as a Democrat. Scuba Oct 2015 #154

In case you've not noticed ... NanceGreggs Oct 2015 #158

A Hillary fan complaining about "political convenience." Hilarious. Scuba Oct 2015 #159

As I said upthread ... NanceGreggs Oct 2015 #160

Sorry Nance, but in my opinion it's about principles, not party. You apparently disagree. Scuba Oct 2015 #166

I fail to see what is "principled" ... NanceGreggs Oct 2015 #169

So Bernie's principles are a moving target but Hillary has been consistent. Got it. Scuba Oct 2015 #170

Yet again ... NanceGreggs Oct 2015 #171

He plays one on TV. okasha Oct 2015 #163

Oh, after all this time being wrong I guess that she's used to the pain, it's just a mild annoyance. NealK Oct 2015 #164

And our money, okasha Oct 2015 #152

You're right, except for the part about the DNC using Bernie to raise money. Scuba Oct 2015 #165

Well, to be fair, the OP does not specify which presidential candidate... stone space Oct 2015 #32

Kicked and recommended!!! DisgustipatedinCA Oct 2015 #12

Kind of like this? William769 Oct 2015 #17

Yeah, I asked you for a citation on that. You ignored the request. DisgustipatedinCA Oct 2015 #18

Steve gave you an answer. William769 Oct 2015 #21

I responded to it. Did you not see that, Bill? DisgustipatedinCA Oct 2015 #36

Google. DanTex Oct 2015 #31

Google DisgustipatedinCA Oct 2015 #38

TWENTY-FIVE YEARS AGO !! :>))))))))))) pangaia Oct 2015 #132

Here ya go! leftofcool Oct 2015 #33

Thanks, but... DisgustipatedinCA Oct 2015 #39

Or this: George II Oct 2015 #80

Now I'm off to rec a thread by someone who voted for Reagan! NuclearDem Oct 2015 #40

Awesome. Tell Manny I said hello. DisgustipatedinCA Oct 2015 #42

Dearest me! People can change their minds? MOST UNORTHODOX NuclearDem Oct 2015 #46

The arc of progress is a far cry from starkly opposite binary states. Have a good weekend. DisgustipatedinCA Oct 2015 #47

yes! Ed Suspicious Oct 2015 #52

You mean Elizabeth Warren? Lisa D Oct 2015 #45

Bullshit gotcha games are bullshit gotcha games, no matter the target. NuclearDem Oct 2015 #49

I absolutely agree! Lisa D Oct 2015 #50

Perhaps you haven't changed as much as you think. sibelian Oct 2015 #93

Well, you know what they say about staring into the abyss... NuclearDem Oct 2015 #97

I disagree that people are not responsible for prior actions just because Hortensis Oct 2015 #128

Steve would be a great addition to the team! William769 Oct 2015 #14

Dan needs to be on the cabinet. Skidmore Oct 2015 #22

Press Secretary! William769 Oct 2015 #23

press sec is actually a realistic position in his case JI7 Oct 2015 #100

Already the weeping and knashing of teeth .. ismnotwasm Oct 2015 #19

Gnashing. opiate69 Oct 2015 #58

knashing is noshing on a knish! dorkzilla Oct 2015 #64

I admit... opiate69 Oct 2015 #65

Thank you! ismnotwasm Oct 2015 #108

I'd vote for Steve Skidmore Oct 2015 #20

K&R Fumesucker Oct 2015 #24

Should I do a new poll? BooScout Oct 2015 #25

I think a new poll is in order. leftofcool Oct 2015 #35

Your wish is my pleasure! BooScout Oct 2015 #69

Nailed it. Bobbie Jo Oct 2015 #26

Steven Leser is a pundit, of sorts. MineralMan Oct 2015 #27

What'd you say?!? ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #70

LOL. Hortensis Oct 2015 #124

I once remarked ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #130

Wise man. I think I'd choose to undergo a "paradigm shift" Hortensis Oct 2015 #133

Laughing at is "pounding"? Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2015 #29

Do you think calling a DUer a "bullet headed goon" is funny? nt sufrommich Oct 2015 #34

That got hidden, so a jury of his peers at "Bernie Underground" told him in no uncertain terms that Ed Suspicious Oct 2015 #53

Anything JackInGreen Oct 2015 #37

it's the rightwing debating tactics I"ve noticed and noted from DU thirdwayers stupidicus Oct 2015 #48

they also say we're the "loony left" and back GOP policies if it's a Dem doing it MisterP Oct 2015 #161

you know it stupidicus Oct 2015 #173

that's the kinda illogic or dishonesty about any chummaster might deploy stupidicus Oct 2015 #41

Oh, wait... You're serious? frylock Oct 2015 #43

With Steven on Fox News, the Murdoch connection is complete. OnyxCollie Oct 2015 #44

Seriously, Dan - we're defining "hate" as illustrating hypocrisy by recalling one's own bullwinkle428 Oct 2015 #51

Yes! He would be perfect for Hillary's VP. I think this will be a first for me when I rec this OP Autumn Oct 2015 #55

A pair of flip flops! panader0 Oct 2015 #87

If Julian Castro is not the VP nominee, then Steve Leser is a good second choice Gothmog Oct 2015 #56

I really doubt that she would want anything to do with the guy who wrote this: NealK Oct 2015 #57

He's a fellow flip-flopper, she'd LOVE him. senz Oct 2015 #110

Lol, so true. NealK Oct 2015 #162

LOL ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #59

What is it with people who were so virulently against one candidate in 2008 and now for in 2016? Fumesucker Oct 2015 #66

Perhaps you should be addressing your question to DanTex. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #68

That poster is so far gone he doesn't even notice Fumesucker Oct 2015 #71

I disagree. And don't appreciate your unnecessary, over the top, attack on him. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #72

You brought him up and I never mentioned names... Fumesucker Oct 2015 #75

Okay. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #79

.... ismnotwasm Oct 2015 #120

two most hated people on DU are Obama and Hillary Clinton AlbertCat Oct 2015 #60

+1000 nt 99th_Monkey Oct 2015 #84

Saturn cat! I want one. DisgustipatedinCA Oct 2015 #126

Saturn cat! I want one. AlbertCat Oct 2015 #138

Thank you. DisgustipatedinCA Oct 2015 #140

A ridiculous posting. SoapBox Oct 2015 #62

^this^ retrowire Oct 2015 #76

Right up there as one of the most ridiculous OPs ever. kath Oct 2015 #95

Hate. NealK Oct 2015 #63

Don't know who Steve is, but it sounds about right. n/t ffr Oct 2015 #67

Does this thread have a beneficial or meaningful purpose? floriduck Oct 2015 #73

Showing my support in a jovial manner for a long-time DUer who the hate squad has recently decided DanTex Oct 2015 #74

Thanks for the link. Now I can give it my K&R 99th_Monkey Oct 2015 #85

Gotta watch out for those sarroguts. Is that like some kind of fish or something? DanTex Oct 2015 #89

haa-haa. 99th_Monkey Oct 2015 #92

do any of this poster's? Doctor_J Oct 2015 #155

So much fail packed into just two paragraphs. Way to go, Dan! Comrade Grumpy Oct 2015 #86

Then we'd be voting Spirochete Oct 2015 #90

Love Steve! hrmjustin Oct 2015 #91

primary campaigns can get really ugly JI7 Oct 2015 #98

Would he and Clinton be able to keep their ever shifting positions in sync? nt Live and Learn Oct 2015 #99

Hmmm, now that would be quite a trick! kath Oct 2015 #115

Silly rabbit... Unknown Beatle Oct 2015 #101

He's too busy cashing his checks from his Fux News appearances. Why would he give up Exilednight Oct 2015 #102

I don't think many people on 'DU' hate President Obama WI_DEM Oct 2015 #103

I don't think Trump would have him. Rubio might, though. senz Oct 2015 #109

I like Steve just fine Puzzledtraveller Oct 2015 #117

Absolutely. Jamaal510 Oct 2015 #118

I agree. Go Steve. And I applaud him for being a serious national journalist and also DanTex Oct 2015 #139

Feel better now? pangaia Oct 2015 #127

Are you talking about Fox's pivot man and foil who Agnosticsherbet Oct 2015 #134

I think you mean Dennis Kucinich a.k.a. the last Bernie Sanders. DanTex Oct 2015 #141

Kucinich I know. Terrible candidate. Agnosticsherbet Oct 2015 #150

Steve Leser is a teller of truth. Autumn Oct 2015 #142

He is going to have a hard time squaring that circle. They'll only people Exilednight Oct 2015 #147

LOL I like your reasoning! treestar Oct 2015 #149

I think the republicans would have fun with that. he's already written their ads for them Doctor_J Oct 2015 #153

First-Way Steve? Or Third-Way Steve? MannyGoldstein Oct 2015 #156

I tweeted him & linked him to the thread here pinebox Oct 2015 #167

Ridiculous. He's unknown and unqualified. RBInMaine Oct 2015 #168

I will accept any position to which Democratic nominee Clinton or President Clinton calls on me stevenleser Oct 2015 #172