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arcane1

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63. "Compromise" in that context means "letting the conservatives (of both parties) have their way"

Sun Oct 4, 2015, 04:52 PM

Oct 2015

Those days are over. Anyone who didn't already see it, saw it with Obama.

It's over. In fact, our survival depends on it.

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Bernie the only candidate from either party who young voters actually give a damn about [View all] brentspeak Oct 2015 OP

GREAT pictures! beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #1

Had one tell me yesterday that she was thrilled to have a candidate she was excited about Live and Learn Oct 2015 #4

We were excited about JFK, but then he was taken from us. JDPriestly Oct 2015 #126

Bernie's candidacy in indeed resonating with young people Joe Turner Oct 2015 #53

It looks like a young America, diverse and hopeful, not at all staged. MindfulOne Oct 2015 #78

To say nothing of her friends in the intelligence and military communities. JDPriestly Oct 2015 #129

The Democratic primary voters will decide if he wins the nomination. Cali_Democrat Oct 2015 #2

Lol, yes, they will. I'm taking a formerly non-voter to register as a Dem this week sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #32

That is true! artislife Oct 2015 #33

And, of course, media and/or lack thereof, has no effect on voters, esp. merrily Oct 2015 #232

It kills me that people in our party want to ignore or even tamp down this enthusiasm. These people Ed Suspicious Oct 2015 #3

It's because the leadership has already decided who they want, and everyone knows it. reformist2 Oct 2015 #29

That's because he is a self-descrbed socialist.... PosterChild Oct 2015 #97

As evidenced by his anemic crowd numbers and lack of donors arcane1 Oct 2015 #104

As "evidenced" by .... PosterChild Oct 2015 #156

Like anyone has ever faced this. Fawke Em Oct 2015 #182

You're quoting the WaPo? It has been on the anti-Bernie bandwagon. Bohunk68 Oct 2015 #223

Did you read the WAPO article you linked to? thesquanderer Oct 2015 #228

young people are not shackled by the tired old conventional wisdom virtualobserver Oct 2015 #105

Yep, those young folks .... PosterChild Oct 2015 #162

your chart shows the trend virtualobserver Oct 2015 #164

The chart shows that.... PosterChild Oct 2015 #186

the chart is a snapshot, nothing more virtualobserver Oct 2015 #205

LOL, And what is the claim that . ... PosterChild Oct 2015 #208

your chart neither proves nor disproves that statement virtualobserver Oct 2015 #209

One thing that chart does show Art_from_Ark Oct 2015 #224

"...self-descrbed socialist..." pangaia Oct 2015 #150

Just to do a little critical thinking.... PosterChild Oct 2015 #160

People are tired of the corporatist status quo Jurassic Fiend Oct 2015 #166

Ummm, what evidence do you have... PosterChild Oct 2015 #176

I believe he can win HDSam Oct 2015 #151

What I'm tired of is .... PosterChild Oct 2015 #163

That's the thing: no one's carrying pictures of Chairman Mao. Fawke Em Oct 2015 #184

In 1932 FDR ran against... PosterChild Oct 2015 #188

I'm actually not worried about labels. Fawke Em Oct 2015 #191

1955 called. It wants its dumbass red-baiting back. merrily Oct 2015 #236

You are so gone Trajan Oct 2015 #195

This message was self-deleted by its author PowerToThePeople Oct 2015 #200

This is a very good way to put it. retrowire Oct 2015 #92

Great post. You should post it as an OP with just a little editing because what you said needs JDPriestly Oct 2015 #131

+1 merrily Oct 2015 #233

That's because he is the only one who gives a damn about them AgingAmerican Oct 2015 #5

This message was self-deleted by its author BlueWaveDem Oct 2015 #6

You really are some piece of work. NorthCarolina Oct 2015 #8

BlueWaveDem posted "That's because they're all doped up" beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #11

"Member" just got flagged brentspeak Oct 2015 #20

Is it just me JackInGreen Oct 2015 #22

Interesting ... that's quite a personality change. sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #35

It's the silly season and this forum is like fly paper. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #37

What does "flagged" mean? NorthCarolina Oct 2015 #48

Posting privileges suspended and member "Flagged for Review" n/t brentspeak Oct 2015 #64

Oh, ok NorthCarolina Oct 2015 #67

It happens if one gets a couple of posts hidden in a short time after joining. arcane1 Oct 2015 #80

OK, now that NorthCarolina Oct 2015 #96

"I will be back with new account since someone got me flagged for review. I hate you Bernie people!" MindfulOne Oct 2015 #73

I've got two notions on who's wearing that sock, too Scootaloo Oct 2015 #196

And will say literally anything in order to counter a pro-Bernie post. arcane1 Oct 2015 #55

"MY ACCOUNT HAS BEEN HACKED. MY POSTS DELETED." beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #57

Check it now: arcane1 Oct 2015 #74

LMAO! I wonder who hacked her account and called Billy Bragg a "redneck"? beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #77

I admit, that one was all me. arcane1 Oct 2015 #83

Wasn't there another famous DUer who flamed out and claimed their account was hacked? beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #101

Not that I recall. By the way, I "hacked" their account again. arcane1 Oct 2015 #102

"Socialism sucks!" beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #106

Now they changed it again: darkangel218 Oct 2015 #118

Oh dear. Another one who doesn't know the difference between Communism and Dem Socialism. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #120

Sounds pretty Republicanny to me AgingAmerican Oct 2015 #190

Yet again... here's what I see: cui bono Oct 2015 #198

Jeebus Christ darkangel218 Oct 2015 #202

Another potential Bernie voter (who implies he is a pedophile) Comedy gold. merrily Oct 2015 #235

Did you do her sigline too? "FLAGGED BY HILLARY HATERS" beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #110

Not me! I have to admit, I'm curious how this afternoon-long vitriol would've expressed itself. arcane1 Oct 2015 #111

A shame, really. No telling what kind of gems would have come from that mine. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #114

Indeed, sometimes silent support is the preferable way. arcane1 Oct 2015 #117

LOLOLOL! Exactly! beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #119

OMG!! Fawke Em Oct 2015 #187

I know. darkangel218 Oct 2015 #192

Currently: "Can\'t spell Bernie Sanders without the letters NRA." Umm... Also... Hillary Clinton Fearless Oct 2015 #221

Carlos Danger posts at DU!!! cherokeeprogressive Oct 2015 #135

ROFLMAO!!! Awesome! beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #137

Great, now that song will be stuck in my head all day. arcane1 Oct 2015 #143

I think I just fell in love with John Oliver. senz Oct 2015 #204

I have been in love with him for years. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #210

Late-comer to the thread, but laughing my head off senz Oct 2015 #213

You too, hope you've been well senz! beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #214

No one wants to see Carlos Danger leak. merrily Oct 2015 #237

Thank you for pointing out to go see her profile artislife Oct 2015 #75

It's in her sigline too. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #82

Lmao!!! darkangel218 Oct 2015 #115

New entry: I\'m back with a new name. You can\'t stop me from telling the truth about socialist jews beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #165

With the latest profile change, I'm not so sure DU is the right place for them to be. arcane1 Oct 2015 #169

Hard to believe she's a nice Jewish girl living in Brooklyn, isn't it? beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #170

Wow.. Thats just nasty darkangel218 Oct 2015 #171

Getting worse too, like a monkey throwing feces at the crowd. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #180

Where they strongly imply a Democratic candidate for POTUS is a pedophile, as at least one other merrily Oct 2015 #234

A small price to pay to maintain the status quo n/t arcane1 Oct 2015 #248

Her bio/profile is bogus and makes NO sense. Divernan Oct 2015 #121

I believe the Clinton campaign's social media headquarters is in Bangladesh. arcane1 Oct 2015 #127

In a building constructed by a Clinton Family Foundation donor? Divernan Oct 2015 #130

lol -- this thread just gets better and better ... senz Oct 2015 #206

Should get a pizza. Look at the profile... cui bono Oct 2015 #197

Wow. I've been wondering about that person. Something didn't add up. senz Oct 2015 #203

Nobody young or progressive has ever said "they're all doped up", like EVER! MindfulOne Oct 2015 #58

Sounds like something Dick Cheney would say. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #59

Gasp. Reefer madness!!111!! merrily Oct 2015 #239

She told me Hillary only voted for the IWR to protect America Autumn Oct 2015 #68

She deleted that post as well but it was too little too late. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #71

Thanks for reposting what "she" had to say. Fawke Em Oct 2015 #185

Guess you haven't seen Hillary's "boots on the ground".... Historic NY Oct 2015 #167

You know what, no, I haven't. Fawke Em Oct 2015 #193

Better Bernie than Ron Paul. ucrdem Oct 2015 #7

Actually, the bullshit attacks on Bernie are convincing young people that the djean111 Oct 2015 #17

You see, Bernie IS the Democrat. !! pangaia Oct 2015 #30

Exactly! Bernie is the Democrat that many bought-and-paid-for Democrats wish they could be. DrBulldog Oct 2015 #42

Another HC supporter implying Bernie will throw the election if he loses the nomination. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #44

He is a life long Democrat. I can understand your confusion, it's hard to remember what sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #56

Thank you for the reminder of slime-balls like Liebermann. Not that I would put the Clintons erronis Oct 2015 #70

The attempt to oppose Bernie based on the letter 'D' only tends to remind me sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #79

No he's a lifelong independent. He's had 53 years to register as a Dem ucrdem Oct 2015 #86

Indeed, we saw this movie in 2008 when Clinton lost the first time. arcane1 Oct 2015 #90

lolololol - yes, we have seen this before um around 2008, and yes we can whereisjustice Oct 2015 #95

I have never registered as a Democrat, either, The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2015 #98

Biggest voting bloc in the country now, for the first time in living memory, are Independents. sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #99

Okay but to win the WH he needs to be a DEM. Period. ucrdem Oct 2015 #145

No he doesn't. He needs the PEOPLE in order to win. 'Hill, Bill and Barack are just three people, sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #148

" He needs to run a DEM convention,.." pangaia Oct 2015 #158

Are you saying that Dems won't support him if he wins the nomination? beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #161

rattling his tin cup in Hollywood Marty McGraw Oct 2015 #222

The night Bernie Sanders endorsed Jesse Jackson for President of the USA: beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #103

You see, you do not understand. You just read stuff. pangaia Oct 2015 #155

Ha. I think I get your meaning but ucrdem Oct 2015 #201

So you're saying you haven't looked into his record or policy stances. cui bono Oct 2015 #220

Fuck the party whatchamacallit Oct 2015 #229

Registering as a Dem in Vermont is impossible. But you knew that. merrily Oct 2015 #240

Declaration of party membership is required of all Vermont state candidates ucrdem Oct 2015 #250

Is Bernie running for Secretary of State in Vermont? beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #251

Stay tuned. ucrdem Oct 2015 #252

Keep trying, as a Vermonter I welcome this kind of silly tactic. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #253

How he has run in the past is no secret and he is running as a Dem now. As always, ya got nutthin, merrily Oct 2015 #256

He's had longer to make up his mind than I've been alive. Sorry, no sale. nt ucrdem Oct 2015 #257

No one's trying to sell him to you. I am trying only for truth. merrily Oct 2015 #258

Truth? He's not a Democrat and never has been. nt ucrdem Oct 2015 #259

You poor thing. How heavy is a goalpost anyway? I've never tried moving one. merrily Oct 2015 #260

Right on, Sabrina! Bohunk68 Oct 2015 #225

Bernie stated that he will support whoever wins the Dem nomination. senz Oct 2015 #211

To be fair, not all young people. But young people with beard combs and hemp suspenders, yeah DanTex Oct 2015 #9

That's so sad. Dream on. n/t djean111 Oct 2015 #12

Well, now we know someone wasn't a hippie during the 60s. artislife Oct 2015 #47

Ha! I worked in an office, but most of my friends were hippies. djean111 Oct 2015 #51

Do you remember how Niles's first wife, Maris, on the "Frazier" show was never Fawke Em Oct 2015 #189

Me too.Hilarious! TheKentuckian Oct 2015 #207

Meanwhile, people who look like Smithers of the "Simpsons" brentspeak Oct 2015 #14

Like 25 year old Symone Sanders? beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #15

Are these the "entitled" ones SNL was talking about? leftofcool Oct 2015 #19

Hillary's supporters probably shouldn't use the word "entitled" too often. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #21

It's funny you even had to post that! artislife Oct 2015 #49

Right? Why must they piss all over a positive thread about young people? beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #54

Incontinence? nt artislife Oct 2015 #61

Maybe they should get some Depends. :) beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #66

What in the world happened to you? pangaia Oct 2015 #31

Any nasty comments about these young people posing with Jeb, Dan?: beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #34

It's so wonderful that Jeb never learned English . . . DrBulldog Oct 2015 #40

They didn't open up their jackets until just before the picture was taken. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #41

Only one (maybe) beard comb among them. Beartracks Oct 2015 #72

Right? DanTex says they need to get with the stereotype! beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #107

Hippie punching again, DanTex? Jurassic Fiend Oct 2015 #43

huh... one_voice Oct 2015 #76

Hipsters and hippies are not the same thing. How do people not know this? DanTex Oct 2015 #81

From the urban dictionary - hipster bashing: beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #85

It's true, nobody bashes hipsters like other hipsters. I'm just an amateur. It's still fun though. DanTex Oct 2015 #91

Except you were insulting all of those wonderful kids in the pictures too. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #93

The last time I heard words like, "beard combs and hemp suspenders" in a negative way, it was.... MindfulOne Oct 2015 #109

People can be so cruel. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #122

lol @ 32,000 supporters showing up for bernie last evening questionseverything Oct 2015 #45

Nice job keeping the focus on the issues. Her position Ed Suspicious Oct 2015 #69

Hippy punching sucks. You should try banker bashing. Ed Suspicious Oct 2015 #62

+1. Banker bashing, that'll be the day. No matter what Ben Bernanke just wrote. appalachiablue Oct 2015 #247

You forgot that they smell too. Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2015 #84

Hippie-punching again, are we? The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2015 #100

Hipsters vs hippies. Not the same. And I'm not punching anyone. DanTex Oct 2015 #108

32,000 excited people. I don't care if they had beard combs and hemp suspenders The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2015 #113

The OP made the ludicrous claim that Bernie is the "only" candidate that young people DanTex Oct 2015 #116

You could post pics of Hill's excited payees at her soirees Divernan Oct 2015 #128

Nice to see you again, Blue Wave Dem. THEY'RE ALL ON DOPE!!!1!! DisgustipatedinCA Oct 2015 #168

Another glimpse into the worldview and mentality. Seems awfully familiar, huh? TheKentuckian Oct 2015 #212

Beard combs and hemp suspenders! LMAO. Oh, wait, you're serious. Yikes. merrily Oct 2015 #241

It is so wonderful to see all of these young people excited about the political process. wilsonbooks Oct 2015 #10

Now try getting them out to vote. leftofcool Oct 2015 #123

The young people that I know concentrate just fine. wilsonbooks Oct 2015 #125

Standing out in the cold all night is 100 times harder than voting. arcane1 Oct 2015 #134

Jesus, I can not believe you wrote that.. the cell phone thingy... pangaia Oct 2015 #172

That is such an ageist way of thinking. Bohunk68 Oct 2015 #226

Sanders does have a certain cache with younger voters, I'll give you that ... BUT Persondem Oct 2015 #13

Compromise? You mean like those 206 bills sponsored/co-sponsored by Bernie and signed into law? beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #16

Sponsoring a bill or co sponsoring by itself does not have anything to do with compromise Persondem Oct 2015 #133

Keep trying to find that happy place where Bernie is ineffective and can't work with Republicans: beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #136

Well, that's one. You got 205 more happy cooperation/compromise stories? nt. Persondem Oct 2015 #139

Dig through them yourself and tell me: beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #141

Actually it's quite easy to get a read on Sanders ref. cosponsoring with GOP. As of 2014 ... Persondem Oct 2015 #147

10% figure from govtrac.us? You mean this?: beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #149

You have some nerve ... accusing me of moving goal posts .... Geezus Persondem Oct 2015 #153

The meme is that Bernie is a "rigid idealogue" who won't compromise with anyone. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #159

You forgot ' self-described socialist." pangaia Oct 2015 #174

Who was it that said he lived in a commune AND sat on his ass in a small state for 73 years? beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #178

I DON'T WANT HIM TO WORK WITH THE FUCKING GOP !!! pangaia Oct 2015 #173

Thanks, Gonna try to bookmark thos one. MasonDreams Oct 2015 #216

Here's the op I stole it from so you can bookmark it: beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #217

Got it! My friend wants a woman in WH she has a masters in poli. sci. MasonDreams Oct 2015 #218

Tell her that if Bernie picks Elizabeth Warren as his VP the right woman will win in 2020! beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #219

She's a big fan of Elizebeth Warren. So am I, I can't even dream up a better ticket. MasonDreams Oct 2015 #263

I had just joked that any young (male) person who supports Hillary probably looks like brentspeak Oct 2015 #18

Quick, give us the powerball numbers! nt artislife Oct 2015 #50

Ummm, other than the glasses, I don't see much of resemblance?????????????? nt. Persondem Oct 2015 #140

I'm done voting for compromise.. frylock Oct 2015 #25

Won't happen but I'll gladly vote for Sanders in the GE if he makes it. Any Dem > any Gop-per Persondem Oct 2015 #138

Ah, okay. Let's just continue to let Republicans dictate what does and what doesn't get done then. frylock Oct 2015 #142

WHAT GOP controlled House? pangaia Oct 2015 #175

Get real. You ever heard of gerrymandering? Persondem Oct 2015 #179

If I 'got real" everytime someone suggest I 'get real,' pangaia Oct 2015 #181

Where have you gotten by not getting real? whatthehey Oct 2015 #246

To the absolute top in 2 professions, for starters. pangaia Oct 2015 #249

"Compromise" in that context means "letting the conservatives (of both parties) have their way" arcane1 Oct 2015 #63

BINGO!!!!!!! Bohunk68 Oct 2015 #227

Young people get it. jalan48 Oct 2015 #23

Young people, you've got a bad reputation to get rid of . . . DrBulldog Oct 2015 #24

Young people aren't going to vote for the sake of voting.. frylock Oct 2015 #26

They already have something to vote for: the rest of their lives. DrBulldog Oct 2015 #38

We've given them the choice of spending the rest of their lives jeff47 Oct 2015 #157

Yes like with Sanders it is free college today and tomorrow it will be school loan forgiveness. DhhD Oct 2015 #231

I suspect that young people don't give a rat's ass what their "reputation" is to djean111 Oct 2015 #39

you mean the tremendous turnout for 2008 for someone who pissed all of it away? MisterP Oct 2015 #46

It's Team Bernie! SoapBox Oct 2015 #27

When Obama caught fire with young voters in '08 that was the end of Hillary's campaign. pa28 Oct 2015 #28

Bernie should try this approach to young people. Maybe they'll finally get it. DrBulldog Oct 2015 #36

Another reason why he is the only Dem candidate who can possibly win the GE. nt Zorra Oct 2015 #52

How beautiful is that. To see young people so engaged they will sit out in the cold to hear Autumn Oct 2015 #60

And this isn't some slicked-up media-friendly persona drawing them out. It's a real person. arcane1 Oct 2015 #87

Yeah and those aren't his employees either. Autumn Oct 2015 #89

Those are faces filled with hope; we cannot let them down. They give a damn, like Bernie does. nt Mnemosyne Oct 2015 #65

Yes! We cannot let them down. Luminous Animal Oct 2015 #254

Hope has been in short supply this new century. kick Mnemosyne Oct 2015 #261

Bernie's the only candidate who gives a damn about ordinary people Demeter Oct 2015 #88

Kicked and recommended! Enthusiast Oct 2015 #94

Not sure exactly who "young folks" might be.... PosterChild Oct 2015 #112

Wow! Hill has dropped in every single category in the past month! Divernan Oct 2015 #124

Yep, so amougst those "young voters " .... PosterChild Oct 2015 #144

For her young voters, "Now try getting them out to vote." arcane1 Oct 2015 #146

Clinton and her minions will have... PosterChild Oct 2015 #152

You posted a poll showing quite a few people willing to elect "a socialist for president" arcane1 Oct 2015 #154

You aren't reading that poll correctly . ... PosterChild Oct 2015 #262

you would do well to not disparage a group marym625 Oct 2015 #245

Did you even read the chart in that post? pangaia Oct 2015 #177

Big Bernie Faux pas Oct 2015 #132

Great pics! bigwillq Oct 2015 #183

Wow, look at all those old white men driving Volvos! Scuba Oct 2015 #194

The enthusiasm he's getting from young people is inspiring. It reflects the power of social media. AtomicKitten Oct 2015 #199

Man, those faces! He's gotta be energized! He also should play some pre-rally songs like this. ancianita Oct 2015 #215

i hearby throw all my support behind bernie and will vote for him to be the next president of the us allan01 Oct 2015 #230

Looking Good AND They're Looking EXCITED! n/t ChiciB1 Oct 2015 #238

Brentspeak, please post more often. Thank you. nt merrily Oct 2015 #242

I hope these young people get out there and vote! nt Nitram Oct 2015 #243

K&R! marym625 Oct 2015 #244

They don't vote doc03 Oct 2015 #255