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21. You cannot say you support minorities rights and women if you support war. Our FP is focused on

Fri Oct 2, 2015, 04:21 PM

Oct 2015

countries that belong to POC. And according to World Orgs who track the victims of our Imperial wars, women suffer unbelievably, losing rights they had before, see Iraq and Libya eg, and suffering unspeakable treatment from the brutal criminals who are free to roam their streets AFTER we destroy their social infrastructure.

I never, as a woman, trusted a war hawk who claimed to be a supporter of women. The two simply don't go together.

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Salon: What Hillary Clinton wants you to forget: Her disastrous record as a war hawk [View all] magical thyme Oct 2015 OP

That's by far my #1 reason for opposing her candidacy. AtomicKitten Oct 2015 #1

That goes for me as well boobooday Oct 2015 #7

Some Dems can't seem to admit their hero has become a war hawk. reformist2 Oct 2015 #13

not "become" she hasn't changed much, improved & is today fairly similar to Obama policies. Sunlei Oct 2015 #62

No, she has become corrupted by money and is a known liar. Unknown Beatle Oct 2015 #75

Mine as well...NEVER forget it! InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2015 #52

So many good reasons, but that's number one. Scuba Oct 2015 #56

She lacks the coolhead needed to be CIC, she is too willing to use military force. peacebird Oct 2015 #2

Same here, completely done with her Az_lefty Oct 2015 #15

That breezy comment was shocking. That wasn't how a diplomat speaks. TwilightGardener Oct 2015 #22

she's already saber-rattling for Iran MisterP Oct 2015 #73

she wont be disarming the police, armed invasion forces, mercenaries, foreign thugs etc reddread Oct 2015 #3

Kosovo in 3...2...1... beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #4

I just a Hillary supporter on Twitter try to argue she's not a war hawk. Fawke Em Oct 2015 #5

Salon, you may like to rewrite history, but she was expressing support for the deal months ago, far still_one Oct 2015 #6

"her IWR vote, that is fair game" uhnope Oct 2015 #37

That is fine, but I am critiquing the Salon piece, and the author for not being entirely honest. As still_one Oct 2015 #44

Post removed Post removed Oct 2015 #8

Israel's #1 shill? Seriously? magical thyme Oct 2015 #10

If anything at all, HRC is Israel's #1 shill. Left Ear Oct 2015 #24

Thank you! Duppers Oct 2015 #25

Anyone who thinks Bernie is a "shill" for Israel because he's Jewish has issues. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #31

Yeah, anti-Semite issues. morningfog Oct 2015 #48

The two state solution has also been the official policy of the United States for over 50 years still_one Oct 2015 #46

It is so nice to see Hillary Clinton's supporters openly smear Sanders davidpdx Oct 2015 #64

Wow. Duppers Oct 2015 #19

+1 leftofcool Oct 2015 #23

You're applauding an arguably anti-Semitic and now hidden message. Comrade Grumpy Oct 2015 #81

Did you see their response in my thread about anti-Semitism? beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #84

No they are applauding a now banned troll Autumn Oct 2015 #90

You can't spell shill without Hill.. frylock Oct 2015 #26

WTF? Bernie is "Israel's #1 shill"??? beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #30

Kick and Rec. hifiguy Oct 2015 #9

You may not be that far off: cpwm17 Oct 2015 #45

The CBS Interview: "We Came We Saw...He Died" was the last straw for me... KoKo Oct 2015 #11

Hillary also has to answer for . . FairWinds Oct 2015 #12

And we must not forget her act in Fort Sumter asjr Oct 2015 #20

Is Secretary of State on her resume or not? frylock Oct 2015 #27

What is the alleged correlation between a Honduras coup and Ft Sumpter? TheKentuckian Oct 2015 #42

bit of a false equivalency, don't you think? green917 Oct 2015 #63

I am beginning to believe no one on DU has a sense asjr Oct 2015 #72

She deserves every bit of criticism she gets. Maedhros Oct 2015 #77

AHA! I WAS RIGHT ABOUT SENSE OF HUMOR. asjr Oct 2015 #79

Have you seen the nasty remarks about Bernie? beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #80

I don't think I have ever seen those gutter words about Bernie asjr Oct 2015 #86

I just wanted you to realize it isn't all one sided. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #87

I will never forget and uhnope Oct 2015 #14

But..but..they were just "mistakes". Faux pas. Bagatelles. Momentary blind spots. Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2015 #16

K & R SoapBox Oct 2015 #17

K & R !!! WillyT Oct 2015 #18

You cannot say you support minorities rights and women if you support war. Our FP is focused on sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #21

Women and children always suffer the most from the depredations of war. Maedhros Oct 2015 #78

I Will Never Forget Her Iraq War Vote McKim Oct 2015 #28

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ Another day, another anti-Hillary load of shit. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ RBInMaine Oct 2015 #29

She's the gift that keeps on giving.... HooptieWagon Oct 2015 #33

Indeed...it seems she has learned NOTHING............... KoKo Oct 2015 #40

It's completely crap treestar Oct 2015 #70

Brilliant rebuttal. n/t Comrade Grumpy Oct 2015 #82

This message was self-deleted by its author Corruption Inc Oct 2015 #32

We don't need, and cannot afford another war, period. PatrickforO Oct 2015 #34

...! We focus on Fear and War and All of us Suffer! KoKo Oct 2015 #41

what I find interesting ish of the hammer Oct 2015 #35

K & R !!!! Thespian2 Oct 2015 #36

maybe she's evolved on this issue Doctor_J Oct 2015 #38

Kick! beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #39

It's not easy to forget when she pals around with war criminals. hifiguy Oct 2015 #43

It is not easy to forget someone who pals around with the sandinistas either. Thinkingabout Oct 2015 #51

Who pals around with Sandinistas? beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #53

Imagine that. Wanting to overthrow hifiguy Oct 2015 #55

I see who she hangs with when she isn't trying to bullshit real Democrats. 99Forever Oct 2015 #47

How can we forget? Her Iran speech, her no fly zone in Syria. morningfog Oct 2015 #49

Is this like the war hawk who wanted to bomb Yugoslavia? Thinkingabout Oct 2015 #50

If you mean the man who wanted to stop a genocide that would be Bernie. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #54

She's an American and our entire country has a disastrous war record. we aren't allowed to blame Sunlei Oct 2015 #57

Salon has a long history of blaming Bush/Cheney for their war magical thyme Oct 2015 #58

not enough at all. they sway and write for the money. the big bucks are writing anti-clinton stories Sunlei Oct 2015 #59

Can you defend her vote or not? it's not Salon's fault she voted to give Bush his war. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #60

No, I think all the people, millions of them who backed bush and let cheney rape americans federal f Sunlei Oct 2015 #67

Fair enough. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #68

over half a million hits criticizing Bush/Iraq war, dating back to the beginning is not enough? magical thyme Oct 2015 #61

Okay so you agree that Bush/Cheney were responsible for the horror of Iraq. sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #65

lol - here they come, why does SALON hate Hillary ? whereisjustice Oct 2015 #66

"War Hawk" is extremely exaggerated treestar Oct 2015 #69

Libya, Syria, Yemen, Hondurous and Iraq - all part of her interventionalist neo-con State Dept whereisjustice Oct 2015 #74

"I do not believe for a second Hillary would look for a war the way a Republican would." Comrade Grumpy Oct 2015 #83

She's a neoliberal on foreign policy. AtomicKitten Oct 2015 #88

There are those Americans who view many of these points cheapdate Oct 2015 #71

Kickin' Faux pas Oct 2015 #76

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Oct 2015 #85

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