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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: In another thread a poster was castigated for mentioning Clinton's tale of sniper fire at an airport [View all]cheapdate
(3,811 posts)217. Research published from the 1970s and since, by Gary Wells of Iowa State and many others
have had an enormous influence our understanding of memory. The findings of these researchers has furthermore had a significant influence on the codified evidentiary standards used in many states across the nation. I'm surprised this is news to you.
By the way, as I've said many times in this thread, I'm supporting Bernie Sanders for the nomination.
And no, whether or not a personal story she told on the campaign trail in 2008 about a trip to Bosnia and Herzegovina that took place almost twenty years ago in 1996 was completely accurate doesn't really change my opinion toward Hillary Clinton in any meaningful way.
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In another thread a poster was castigated for mentioning Clinton's tale of sniper fire at an airport [View all]
peacebird
Sep 2015
OP
Bernie will simply explain his positions, and explain why it is a good thing
virtualobserver
Sep 2015
#244
But not everyone is gullible enough to believe the lie that he is a "self proclaimed socialist".
rhett o rick
Sep 2015
#277
Please, please find the quote where he describes himself a "straight up socialist". I think that is
rhett o rick
Sep 2015
#302
In a speech he gave at the National Committee for Independent Political Action...
PosterChild
Sep 2015
#321
I will give you credit for finding that, but you lose credit for cherry picking what he said.
rhett o rick
Sep 2015
#324
I don't choose my candidates on what the Republicons might think or say. In fact I think those
rhett o rick
Sep 2015
#349
Laugh now, but when the Populists throw out the authoritarian idols, you won't be laughing.
rhett o rick
Sep 2015
#279
I can see why some might feel they have to side with the 1% in this class war. They think
rhett o rick
Sep 2015
#300
How about "Which side in the class war is your candidate fighting on? Sen Sanders is on the side of
rhett o rick
Sep 2015
#310
So you deny there is a class war? Progressives recognize the class war. Conservatives pretend
rhett o rick
Sep 2015
#317
Bernie didn't bring it, he's shining a bright light on what's been happening for decades.
haikugal
Sep 2015
#326
I too am looking forward to them attacking Bernie on the way he wants to HELP us. The IRONY
Vincardog
Sep 2015
#251
The REALITY is that ALL publicity is GOOD publicity. The more the RW attacks Bernie on his POLICIES
Vincardog
Sep 2015
#263
So how exactily will that be different from every other presidential race in the last couple decades
Lordquinton
Sep 2015
#290
That is even better. Which of Bernie's socialist policies will they attack? How will that hurt?
Vincardog
Sep 2015
#313
I owned THAT word years ago. No one tells me I'm wrong when I accuse them of buying
Cleita
Sep 2015
#298
Well, yes.. But they are artfully lit pictures of the the most exquisite delicacies
Fumesucker
Sep 2015
#22
Yes. It was a dangerous place. Yes she LIED saying she ran, under sniper fire. It was a stupid ploy
peacebird
Sep 2015
#9
Theree was no sniper fire, just a child handing her flowers. Video shows Hillary smiling.
peacebird
Sep 2015
#76
IF she actually had ben attacked and THEN her memory was cloudy that would be one thing.
cui bono
Sep 2015
#77
The only way I can remember my anniversary is that it's the day after St. Patricks Day/
Fuddnik
Sep 2015
#140
I hoped beyond hope for Democrats to stand up and say that WMD's in Iraq was a lie. She failed.
rhett o rick
Sep 2015
#288
Clinton has a "conventional" conception of so-called "American Exceptionalism"
cheapdate
Sep 2015
#307
Good point. It's not her judgement that I don't trust, it's her ideology. nm
rhett o rick
Sep 2015
#308
have you seen the video of what she said, and the video of her actual experience?
virtualobserver
Sep 2015
#61
I have, they show a total disconnect between her words and the actions of the day. She LIED.
peacebird
Sep 2015
#81
It is impossible to draw any other conclusion other than the story being a complete invention
virtualobserver
Sep 2015
#94
I will not be joining you or anyone else in portraying a leading Democratic candidate
cheapdate
Sep 2015
#187
If this makes HRC look like she is not truthful or in touch with reality, it is not made
karynnj
Sep 2015
#124
Good point. She's faced only Obama and Sanders, neither of whom went for the jugular the way that
merrily
Sep 2015
#232
If I said something that was the opposite of the truth, would you agree it was a lie?
peacebird
Sep 2015
#78
We are not talking 'little white lies' here (no honey, you don't look fat). We are talking about
peacebird
Sep 2015
#83
I don't share your concern, I think that Bernie will have long coattails in the election.
peacebird
Sep 2015
#102
You don't give the nuclear football to someone that sometimes "misremembers" to that magnitude
TheKentuckian
Sep 2015
#351
One-sided. How about what Hillary supporters and surrogates try to hammer about Bernie, whom
merrily
Sep 2015
#230
"Without your support" is very different from your affirmative defenses, which you accord Hillary,
merrily
Sep 2015
#240
You've exemplified here a kind of behavior that's always been a feature of DU,
cheapdate
Sep 2015
#261
Nope. You created all your posts. I did not create a one of them. Anyone can search DU
merrily
Sep 2015
#280
Sure, landing in a war zone is nothing special. You've probably done it many times?
cheapdate
Sep 2015
#41
Any one or two of those details I could let slide. The entire fabricated story with the "and that's
Ed Suspicious
Sep 2015
#256
Research published from the 1970s and since, by Gary Wells of Iowa State and many others
cheapdate
Sep 2015
#217
Facts are facts, whether one's memory of those events stays intact or not, though.
Major Hogwash
Sep 2015
#334
Two different people can see the same thing two different ways because of two perspectives.
Major Hogwash
Sep 2015
#337
The GOP doesn't need DUers to carry their water in the context of Hillary's untrustworthy nature.
cherokeeprogressive
Sep 2015
#169
She wasn't the Secretary of State and Barack Obama wasn't President. This claim was made in 2008.
cherokeeprogressive
Sep 2015
#142
She didn't make up shit in order to garner votes that would take HER to the Presidency.
cherokeeprogressive
Sep 2015
#152
Not according to WAPO. I posted upthread a quote that said Tuzla was safe at that time.
merrily
Sep 2015
#276
THANK YOU, this is really much ado about nothing. Americans know what it means to fly into
R B Garr
Sep 2015
#304
Disagree. For one thing, she was citing this as part of her foreign policy cred.
merrily
Sep 2015
#224
If you were greeted by a girl with flowers you might recall a hail of sniper fire? PLEASE child
Vincardog
Sep 2015
#252
If they were that confident in their own candidate, they wouldn't have the need to smear HRC.
leftofcool
Sep 2015
#25
bs my nephew was in bosnia with the danes on a peace keeping force. he was sniped EVERY
roguevalley
Sep 2015
#62
Not if you have native ancestry and it doesn't matter how long ago it was, it still is.
roguevalley
Sep 2015
#67
That is exactly right and she did piss off the Cherokee People over that lie.
leftofcool
Sep 2015
#107
Neither is French Kissing a Pit Bull on live TV. But that doesn't make it OK.
MindfulOne
Sep 2015
#21
You might want to reconsider whether you want to compare the "crimes" of spouses.
beam me up scottie
Sep 2015
#24
Bill's already been to confession (forced)....his sins have been washed clean
virtualobserver
Sep 2015
#50
It's like Ricky Ray Rector and the Sistah Souljah moment never happened.
beam me up scottie
Sep 2015
#54
I suppose Hillary and Jane may need to do some explaining but only one of them
Uncle Joe
Sep 2015
#37
The Clinton Camp is basically trying to pull a "Whitewater" on the Sanders family. Oh the irony.
arcane1
Sep 2015
#159
Right? And her supporters here are jumping on the bandwagon with glee.
beam me up scottie
Sep 2015
#162
"a little birdie whom I speak to on a regular basis is doing some digging and it ain't pretty"
beam me up scottie
Sep 2015
#48
Oh no. C_D is in touch with O'Keefe or someone similar. We're doomed!
DisgustipatedinCA
Sep 2015
#57
well, if spouses have to 'explain' then I want to know if the rumors that bill is still
roguevalley
Sep 2015
#71
Well I guess your little birdie can teach the right wing a thing or two, eh?
beam me up scottie
Sep 2015
#96
So spouses of candidates are to be attacked and it's okay? Good, I was not about to bring up
sabrina 1
Sep 2015
#274
Aw, still not talking about ISSUES. Btw, I hope that 'little birdie' isnt from the ironically named
sabrina 1
Sep 2015
#339
Thank you. I was the castigated poster. I threw it right back at the other poster.
DisgustipatedinCA
Sep 2015
#26
She should never be President... She should be proclaimed QUEEN of the United States.
cherokeeprogressive
Sep 2015
#163
I read that when it was first posted in 2008 and can't hear of Tuzla since without cracking up
Fumesucker
Sep 2015
#343
This thread is getting too serious. We need some music to lighten things up.
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
Sep 2015
#135
"Said some things that weren't in keeping with what I knew to be the case..."
R. Daneel Olivaw
Sep 2015
#207
There is no rule here against "hijacking a thread". That was just bullying by some random DU member.
Warren Stupidity
Sep 2015
#170
So Sanders can't win on his issues so his minions resort to character assassination
BlueStateLib
Sep 2015
#182
Meh. Clinton supporters ran off and made a web site just so they can insult us without the threat
Maedhros
Sep 2015
#233