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17. She was against the Iraq war before it
Wed Sep 23, 2015, 06:54 AM
Sep 2015

Last edited Wed Sep 23, 2015, 07:40 AM - Edit history (1)

was what she thought in her best interests to be for it.
If she is elected she will backtrack because her corporate sponsors want this Keystone PL approved.

Obama was against off shore drilling,against using Soc Security,Medicare as a budget bargaining chip,he was for Unions right to strike and said he would walk a picket line to show his support .These and many more issues that came to be he ignored once elected.Hillary will be worse that Obama because she is totally owned by the corporate mafia.

Obama made us believe all his BS and Hillary will never convince me she is actually against the Keystone,the TPP or any
corporate want list items.

Yes Hillary Clinton is a Phony

This issue about Bernie Sanders and the college tuition issue..well she needs to get her facts straight before the Bernie bashing but then along with the corporate script she read, Bill probably had a hand in these underhanded politics.

Tell you what listen to Bernie and then listen and watch Hillary as she gives a speech.If Hillary didn't have a teleprompter or a corporate script she would be totally lost.

But wait,before Hillary said she would have to see the final agreement before deciding about the Keystone. As Sec of State she was for the Keystone.
Now that she is down in the polls (well I forgot, the majority of 392 voters over 50 said they were with Hillary)
she is against the Keystone. ...Corporate rhetoric.

The dirty campaigning we all knew was coming TM99 Sep 2015 #1
+1 CountAllVotes Sep 2015 #2
I hope you are ready... Bohemianwriter Sep 2015 #19
Good Grief. This isn't an example of dirty campaigning. The Super PAC thing was dirty. Tom Rinaldo Sep 2015 #47
We disagree then. TM99 Sep 2015 #48
When she says "he has to explain how he will pay for it"... ljm2002 Sep 2015 #91
I get that Tom Rinaldo Sep 2015 #108
Welcome to politics... awoke_in_2003 Sep 2015 #162
Gosh, really? ljm2002 Sep 2015 #163
You don't believe that LYING about Bernie not having a plan bvar22 Sep 2015 #132
I explained my feelings in a post reply above Tom Rinaldo Sep 2015 #135
how is this dirty? qazplm Sep 2015 #52
You obviously didn't read my posts. TM99 Sep 2015 #56
Because Bernie has already said many times how he would finance it -- the .5% transaction tax Nay Sep 2015 #61
That's not dirty and if you think that is dirty you are in for some serious disappointments. n/t A Simple Game Sep 2015 #67
It's certainly not as dirty as, say, swiftboating, but really, if she wanted to play it Nay Sep 2015 #77
Exactly. TM99 Sep 2015 #82
Lying is dirty... ljm2002 Sep 2015 #95
I didn't see any lie, please elaborate. n/t A Simple Game Sep 2015 #100
"He has to explain how he will pay for it" ljm2002 Sep 2015 #145
But it doesn't make the statement a lie. But I see your point. A Simple Game Sep 2015 #147
This message was self-deleted by its author Wankle Ronnie Sep 2015 #72
Uh, Ronnie-Mr-21-posts, we're not talking about the TAX being dirty, we're talking about Nay Sep 2015 #76
That's right... Wankle Ronnie Sep 2015 #78
Forgiven! And welcome to DU. I raise my cup of coffee to yours this morning! Nay Sep 2015 #97
She lies when she claims he has not explained how he will pay for it... ljm2002 Sep 2015 #94
How about one that contains the truth. Bernie presented jwirr Sep 2015 #148
This message was self-deleted by its author turbinetree Sep 2015 #60
If she's the Dem candidate for the general, she better win it. woodsprite Sep 2015 #80
She won't. TM99 Sep 2015 #81
Mere days after she said she wouldn't do it. Another lie. n/t arcane1 Sep 2015 #102
This isn't dirty campaigning. It's just stupid Scootaloo Sep 2015 #103
Dirty campaigning, going negative, being stupid. TM99 Sep 2015 #109
Asking questions is horrible! FloridaBlues Sep 2015 #130
Asking questons is fine. TM99 Sep 2015 #133
You know there is nothing certain but death and taxes. What jwirr Sep 2015 #149
I'm just curious which corporate mafia member INdemo Sep 2015 #3
"She is the biggest phony ever to run as a Democrat?" Unknown Beatle Sep 2015 #16
She was against the Iraq war before it INdemo Sep 2015 #17
Bill made money off for-profit schools. CanadaexPat Sep 2015 #39
Taking the low road now? Mrs. Clinton is sorely disappointing. Betty Karlson Sep 2015 #4
Well, you know, HRC is TM99 Sep 2015 #5
We knew it was coming. tecelote Sep 2015 #6
The debates, obviously: Betty Karlson Sep 2015 #7
I can't wait to see her taken apart on October 13. SusanCalvin Sep 2015 #25
We should donate $25 to the Sanders campaign every time Hillary lashes out like this. I'm secondwind Sep 2015 #8
^^THIS^^ tblue Sep 2015 #53
I only wish I could. 99Forever Sep 2015 #65
Just $3.00 would do it. jwirr Sep 2015 #150
regarding tweet one restorefreedom Sep 2015 #9
I agree. n/t djean111 Sep 2015 #10
Tweet 1 - my 1st thought upon reading elehhhhna Sep 2015 #12
/\_/\_This right here_/\_/\ Scuba Sep 2015 #14
UM, about that tweet one hootinholler Sep 2015 #21
it probably would not even affect them anyway restorefreedom Sep 2015 #36
The trade school is a must. Most state colleges are now jwirr Sep 2015 #151
in the new world economy restorefreedom Sep 2015 #152
In fairness, there are some top-notch public universities RufusTFirefly Sep 2015 #43
Absolutely there are hootinholler Sep 2015 #54
One of the Bush twins and Chitown Kev Sep 2015 #124
Do *I* think that? hootinholler Sep 2015 #137
I mean we aren't talking about Chitown Kev Sep 2015 #142
Exactly. SusanCalvin Sep 2015 #26
The truly rich generally don't send their precious pumpkins to public universities anyway. hedda_foil Sep 2015 #90
Hillary shouldn't worry RufusTFirefly Sep 2015 #11
good point restorefreedom Sep 2015 #15
It's not just a red herring. SusanCalvin Sep 2015 #27
I think she gets it. She's just deliberately sowing FUD. RufusTFirefly Sep 2015 #35
very true restorefreedom Sep 2015 #38
You should start a thread about ending the financial aid and tuition bureaucracy. JDPriestly Sep 2015 #66
"money invested in the stock market is money that is spent discretionarily."???? George II Sep 2015 #159
I am a retiree. If you are lucky enough to save enough, to have a job that pays enough to JDPriestly Sep 2015 #161
Exactly! Trying to win a class war against Bernie f-ing Sanders is a fool's errand. arcane1 Sep 2015 #106
that is baldly false dsc Sep 2015 #55
if that is case restorefreedom Sep 2015 #62
and this gets to be a problem Chitown Kev Sep 2015 #127
family legacy bullshit restorefreedom Sep 2015 #134
But then they wouldn't be state universities any more, right? Chitown Kev Sep 2015 #136
there are definitely kinks that would have to be worked out restorefreedom Sep 2015 #140
I don't disagree with you Chitown Kev Sep 2015 #144
always hard to know restorefreedom Sep 2015 #146
Hmm, I have an idea. juajen Sep 2015 #101
Holeee cow. You brought a whole busload of strawmen to this thread. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #105
with a trailer in tow. nt restorefreedom Sep 2015 #113
And just look at the mess: beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #114
awwwww, man restorefreedom Sep 2015 #115
I think that poster was hauling used straw too, that was a pretty smelly load. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #116
indeed :) nt restorefreedom Sep 2015 #118
i like a good reductio ad absurdum restorefreedom Sep 2015 #112
Well your last sentence explains it all LondonReign2 Sep 2015 #164
i have tried too restorefreedom Sep 2015 #166
We are one of the only developed countries that do not send jwirr Sep 2015 #153
Lmao you are imaginative elehhhhna Sep 2015 #155
Off topic, I realize, Paka Sep 2015 #13
She'll just change her mind after being elected mdbl Sep 2015 #18
Yep. SusanCalvin Sep 2015 #28
The secret there is that Keystone is not economically viable w cheap oil n2doc Sep 2015 #32
Yup, Hillary Clinton knows it too, hence her "brave" opposition to the project tularetom Sep 2015 #86
Bernie has it figured out for the most part madokie Sep 2015 #20
Good for Hillary! leftofcool Sep 2015 #22
she is wrong. I don't care about her attack, but it's simply goofy. cali Sep 2015 #75
Definitely. She's sticking to the low road -- at least she's consistent n/t nichomachus Sep 2015 #126
That is "attacking"? George II Sep 2015 #23
Well, not very effectively, so that's OK. nt SusanCalvin Sep 2015 #29
That was my first thought when I open the thread liberal N proud Sep 2015 #33
If those are "attacks" then Sanders has been attacking Clinton, and Democrats in general..... George II Sep 2015 #87
So she's a little rusty, I'm sure she'll get back to her 2008 fighting form soon enough. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #93
As a matter of fact, Sanders has been more critical of Clinton than vice versa. George II Sep 2015 #98
Bernie criticizes her stance on the issues, he's not running a racist campaign like she did in 2008. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #99
This is 2015. Are you implying that Clinton is running a racist campaign? George II Sep 2015 #119
Read my post again and get back to me, George. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #120
Just as I predicted - backing off from what you said as though you never said it. George II Sep 2015 #122
Point out where I implied "that Clinton is running a racist campaign" George. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #123
It's not an attack, it's a lie. arcane1 Sep 2015 #107
Wall Street loves shackling people with debt. Of course they hate the idea of free universities. reformist2 Sep 2015 #24
Indeed. It's a double whammy for them. RufusTFirefly Sep 2015 #49
Good. moobu2 Sep 2015 #30
Several times he has addressed how it would be paid for. Jackilope Sep 2015 #31
If asked a question by the autdiance-would you want Sanders to explain how Hillary's riversedge Sep 2015 #44
"Mr. Everything will be free." Like touting those right wing talking points do ya? think Sep 2015 #42
Bernie's plan does not make education "free." JDPriestly Sep 2015 #73
Oh she gets it ibegurpard Sep 2015 #96
'I am not going to give social security to wealthy people.' CanadaexPat Sep 2015 #34
Campaigning against free college? Way to get the Youth Vote, Hillary! WinkyDink Sep 2015 #37
+1000 abelenkpe Sep 2015 #104
I hope that along with replying here, everybody has taken a moment to tweet back! magical thyme Sep 2015 #40
She is being pushed to the left Geronimoe Sep 2015 #41
But she'll vote to give tax breaks to the wealthiest among us. Skwmom Sep 2015 #45
I guess only wealthy kids go to public colleges? blackspade Sep 2015 #46
This is a chance for Sanders say a reason why it should be free for everyone. Cheese Sandwich Sep 2015 #50
Hillary vs. Bernie countryken Sep 2015 #51
According to Hillary Clinton's logic, we should charge for K-12 public schools Eric J in MN Sep 2015 #57
Well, she can't win on this... HereSince1628 Sep 2015 #58
This message was self-deleted by its author Agschmid Sep 2015 #59
Ms. Clinton................................. turbinetree Sep 2015 #63
exactly! plus a jillion restorefreedom Sep 2015 #117
Common sense ............................ turbinetree Sep 2015 #141
Do your really think a lot of the wealthy are sending their kids to public universities? Skwmom Sep 2015 #64
The University of Texas has accepted multiple Bushes Chitown Kev Sep 2015 #131
She doesn't pay attention to what's going on then. Bernie has said how it would be paid for. Autumn Sep 2015 #68
She knows damn well what he said nichomachus Sep 2015 #128
"when you got nothing, you attack". Javaman Sep 2015 #69
Dirty politicians gotta campaign dirty. 99Forever Sep 2015 #70
Negative campaigning underway. Wankle Ronnie Sep 2015 #71
Another war on Christmas OP. JoePhilly Sep 2015 #74
Who's talking about a war on christmas? Are you lost? Scootaloo Sep 2015 #111
He likes to make dismissive posts that have nothing to do with the topic in question LondonReign2 Sep 2015 #165
Hillary simply doesn't want her wealthy pals to have to pay any more in taxes. Zorra Sep 2015 #79
Guess that was why she voted against the Bush tax cuts? brooklynite Sep 2015 #85
She's not opposing taxpayer funded higher ed ibegurpard Sep 2015 #92
This makes me want to vomit demwing Sep 2015 #83
Because there are none... Not a single damned one... n/t Catherina Sep 2015 #121
And BTW.."She's not as bad as a Republican" is not in her support demwing Sep 2015 #125
Yeah, but I'm happy to encourage that ridiculous talking point Catherina Sep 2015 #129
There are many reasons for moneyed interests to oppose Bernie ' s proposal ibegurpard Sep 2015 #84
This is why you manipulate the debates, it gives you time and cover to take potshots you don't Snotcicles Sep 2015 #88
It really is a shame kenfrequed Sep 2015 #89
True...but then if the wealthy choose to go to a public university Chitown Kev Sep 2015 #139
As long as they're not like me HassleCat Sep 2015 #110
Well, there's one good thing about the attacks: MSM may HAVE to cover Bernie. Eleanors38 Sep 2015 #138
Showing up only to help the bankers - TBF Sep 2015 #143
her campaign rhetoric sounds more republican every day Doctor_J Sep 2015 #154
One step forward--at least it's about an actual issue this time n/t eridani Sep 2015 #156
K&R nt Live and Learn Sep 2015 #157
Then Bernie's plan is much better than Hillary's. Live and Learn Sep 2015 #158
"He has to explain that and how it would be paid for and all the rest of it." liberal_at_heart Sep 2015 #160
Poop flinging from the Clintons JackInGreen Sep 2015 #167
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