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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Nothing disgusts me more in politics than exploiting race, ethnicity [View all]1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)94. Ya know what? ... I used to take this somewhat seriously ...
Now, sadly, I am mostly mildly amused as some white liberals argue that Bernie has done enough (in terms of results, out-reach and messaging) for non-white folks ... despite what majorities of non-white folks say.
There is a term for that ... a term that gave some white liberals the vapors when Marissa used it.
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it's so nauseatingly sleazy. makes it really hard for me to contemplate voting for her.
cali
Aug 2015
#5
god knows we would not want you to compromise your principle for peoples lives.....
seabeyond
Sep 2015
#260
ya dont vote, repug gets in, we lose supreme crt appt, we lose lives, for your principle
seabeyond
Sep 2015
#264
my post is logical, step by step. just the facts man. you are proud to stand with your principle at
seabeyond
Sep 2015
#281
it is called self interest taking precedent over lives. imo. but then we all define our principles.
seabeyond
Sep 2015
#301
i have never argued that, has nothing to do with my post. not voting = repug = rw supr = lost lives
seabeyond
Sep 2015
#356
This is why Hillary supporters will not vote for Bernie if he wins nomination.
SonderWoman
Aug 2015
#190
Some people won't vote for Hillary because they feel her policies are too close to Republican
LondonReign2
Aug 2015
#191
LOL. You said "some" won't vote for Bernie if he is the nominee then proceeded
LondonReign2
Aug 2015
#202
Uh, no. DUers were pissed that Obama put those things on the table, which he did.
Dawgs
Sep 2015
#285
+1. what are we talking? specific consistency in some posters? let me tell you about the men
seabeyond
Sep 2015
#329
That is some deep stuff. What he says about his son - that's when one has to find that strength. n/t
freshwest
Sep 2015
#246
Aw, don't make it political. I just really love the track, especially Bushwick Bill's verse! nt
Romulox
Sep 2015
#331
I'm not! The track is about making choices that drives one to delusion. n/t
1StrongBlackMan
Sep 2015
#332
How do you feel about holding elected officials, even our favorite ones, accountable when they
sabrina 1
Aug 2015
#148
Well, since basically every candidate I have ever had to vote for has exploited LGBT persons as some
Bluenorthwest
Aug 2015
#9
When did I get to vote for LGBT polticians? Espcially for national office? Never. The nominees are
Bluenorthwest
Aug 2015
#106
Winning overcomes issues in the end with a lot of these politicians, in fact winning becomes the....
marble falls
Aug 2015
#12
kinda like sanders having a female employee writing an article he out does clinton in womens issues?
seabeyond
Aug 2015
#17
i would prefer sanders not be so stupid to think he spoke for women better than clinton.
seabeyond
Aug 2015
#47
No, Hillary supported a ban on late term abortions. Bernie never did.
beam me up scottie
Aug 2015
#186
you are not a lower middle class woman. and, of course, you may think whatever you wish
Hiraeth
Aug 2015
#74
i disagree. i think if you put them upside each other, it would tell a different
seabeyond
Aug 2015
#83
You mean like Clinton and O'Malley hired Latinos to advocate for them with other Latinos?
beam me up scottie
Aug 2015
#22
no, not like that. sanders hired AA public relations. now, if they declared sanders better AA issue
seabeyond
Aug 2015
#23
Those advocates are telling other Latinos that Clinton and O'Malley are better for them.
beam me up scottie
Aug 2015
#25
What point? Using your "logic" they're equally despicable for hiring minorities to do outreach.
beam me up scottie
Aug 2015
#39
except you are arguing clear apple and oranges. which i have pointed out. an element to the equation
seabeyond
Aug 2015
#80
you agree with beam about an argument i am not making. cool. you two get to be right.
seabeyond
Aug 2015
#95
You think Sanders is the condescending arrogant one compared to Clinton? Am I understanding you?
Hiraeth
Aug 2015
#107
It's arrogant for HC to tell me she's done more when she supported restricting my rights.
beam me up scottie
Aug 2015
#117
You have yet to explain how it's different. Just repeating that it's wrong doesn't make it so.
beam me up scottie
Aug 2015
#88
Given that Hillary says we should find "common ground on abortion" with the anti-abortion crowd..nt
ieoeja
Aug 2015
#45
"Words count more than votes. Got it." ya. been saying for days. you want to talk?
seabeyond
Aug 2015
#64
Not to me. If you support restricting my rights nothing you say can make up for it.
beam me up scottie
Aug 2015
#68
I did listen to what she said. She said we should find common ground on abortion.
ieoeja
Aug 2015
#61
Gun use is different in rural states and cities. Even Obama said the same thing after Sandy Hook:
beam me up scottie
Aug 2015
#157
W/ many politicians, you strip away the ambition & greed, there's nothing left.
Divernan
Aug 2015
#18
Yes it is old fashioned because it has been the subject of philosophy for thousands of years.
zeemike
Sep 2015
#344
DU had/has many, many WHITE WOMEN calling people "white supremacist liberals". nt
Romulox
Aug 2015
#29
Yes, there's nothing more Republican than the excitement around electing the first woman POTUS
RandySF
Aug 2015
#32
political surrogates don't freelance, particularly in a campaign as orchestrated as hers
cali
Aug 2015
#108
No it's not, either there's evidence to prove their feigning or there's not
uponit7771
Sep 2015
#323
They are so excited they're spending a billion or two to defeat her. For the usual reasons.
freshwest
Aug 2015
#242
No, my point is I don't vote for someone based on whether they are male or female.
davidpdx
Sep 2015
#263
ignoring the reason one may vote simply cause female. not my problem. you are better than that
seabeyond
Sep 2015
#265
It's not about oppression or discrimination, it's about who is the best candidate
davidpdx
Sep 2015
#266
My point again, it's not about the gender, race, etc. it's about the candidate
davidpdx
Sep 2015
#273
ONE of my considerations weighing that vote was getting the first black man in office. DAMN STRAIGHT
seabeyond
Sep 2015
#277
when sanders first came out, and i was supporting him, prior to the research and listening,
seabeyond
Sep 2015
#279
BTW it is rich hearing you say these things when in another thread you yourself
davidpdx
Sep 2015
#272
ya. i saw that little gotcha you all thought you had. sanders paid a woman to say he is the BEST
seabeyond
Sep 2015
#274
you call me out, falsely accuse me, insult me down below. AND you leave out shit in this post
seabeyond
Sep 2015
#290
do convince me how brilliant he is with women issues as he could not even be bothered to be informed
seabeyond
Sep 2015
#293
Do convince me how much better Hillary is when she wanted to ban late term abortions.
beam me up scottie
Sep 2015
#296
and once again. i am done. putting up pieces of crap and not the whole on an important issue
seabeyond
Sep 2015
#300
Both were disturbed by the video and both supported Planned Parenthood.
beam me up scottie
Sep 2015
#302
FALSE. clinton defended, sanders couldnt be bothered. he didnt WATCH the video. he ONLY
seabeyond
Sep 2015
#303
Bernie's record of protecting my reproductive rights is better than Hillary's. Period.
beam me up scottie
Sep 2015
#304
His "first" trial? He's been standing up for me HIS WHOLE FUCKING CAREER!
beam me up scottie
Sep 2015
#308
5 Powerful Quotes That Prove Bernie Sanders Is a Damn Good Feminist
beam me up scottie
Sep 2015
#315
you know, you sit here and lecture me on women voting for a woman simply cause she has a vagina
seabeyond
Sep 2015
#286
There's *saying* you're against prejudice and actually *being* against prejudice
sibelian
Aug 2015
#134
Actual translation: Sending out a surrogate to lie is a sleazy campaign tactic
LondonReign2
Aug 2015
#66
it is this constant assigning. it is like i cannot even say who my candidate is, without being told
seabeyond
Aug 2015
#144
Under currents that run directly counter to what YOU are hearing in your own head ...
1StrongBlackMan
Aug 2015
#215
I am fully aware of what I have been reading and hearing for the last four months.
Scootaloo
Aug 2015
#210
LOL ... Then, perhaps, you will be so kind as to link to a single post ...
1StrongBlackMan
Aug 2015
#214
"If I do, I'm a race baiter." Isn't it interesting how people from ACTUAL minority communities who
Number23
Aug 2015
#209
I did not know about this, No mention of immigration AND .. AND support of Minute Men?!
uponit7771
Sep 2015
#321
Criticism of Bernie on race, gender or sexual orientation can be done at any time.
sibelian
Aug 2015
#171
People have talked bout his vote for the minute men and lack of immigration policy.
uponit7771
Sep 2015
#326
That's what its been looking like, some type of hyper sensitivity about Sanders and race
uponit7771
Sep 2015
#327
Hillary works for the 1%-she is simply using all the tools available to do their bidding.
jalan48
Aug 2015
#73
I haven't a clue to what you refer. I just think your entire schtick is tired. nt
Romulox
Aug 2015
#85
Just say what you mean: the American poor have had it FAR too good, for FAR too long.
Romulox
Aug 2015
#90
You consider "the top 1% of the world by income" to be a "twisted" definition of "the 1%"?
Recursion
Aug 2015
#92
The frame refers to inequality within the US. You've attempted to subvert it to *defend* the same.
Romulox
Aug 2015
#99
That poster attempts to be this board's "Freakonimics" guy, but he's not so good with numbers. nt
Romulox
Aug 2015
#100
What disgusts me- those who stick their fingers in their ears cause THEIR candidate craps rainbows
KittyWampus
Aug 2015
#118
There's so much straw in this thread ...it's needs a bailing machine and hay loft.
L0oniX
Aug 2015
#119
True, those of us who simply pointed out Sanders' problem with minority outreach and his
KittyWampus
Aug 2015
#125
You are welcome to accuse him of changing his positions on CoC and or PoC. Evidence might be prudent
L0oniX
Aug 2015
#228
Neither. I am not accusing him of changing his positions on CoC and/or PoC ...
1StrongBlackMan
Aug 2015
#231
Meh, metaphorically speaking, he is clearly interested in giving you both the food & drink you need.
Vattel
Sep 2015
#352
There is a reason for Democrats Who have adopted a hybrid theory of governance
Dragonfli
Sep 2015
#364
I believe without both, we will have neither as can be seen clearly in my rather poor neighborhood.
Dragonfli
Sep 2015
#367
I take that to mean that some will never be satisfied with what Bernie has done,
Autumn
Sep 2015
#339
"Nothing disgusts me more in politics than exploiting race, ethnicity"
SouthernProgressive
Aug 2015
#142
Hillary henchmen? Jesus Cali, you make her sound like a Saturday morning cartoon villain. Maybe
Metric System
Aug 2015
#160
I supose since women and minorities have 100% equality under the law, in the work place, and
Agnosticsherbet
Aug 2015
#154
So I suppose you also oppose exploiting the poor the and middleclass with calls for economic justice
Agnosticsherbet
Aug 2015
#167
For me, the irony is, isn't this usually what Republicans say when Liberals/Democrats fight for
stevenleser
Aug 2015
#224
So are you saying minorities, including her surrogates, are being duped by Hillary? They don't have
Metric System
Aug 2015
#161
That's exactly what they are saying. We're too stupid to know what's good for us.
lunamagica
Aug 2015
#169
"it will sure trickle-down on us.". i swear, my 70 yr old father is pattin' me on the head. lol. nt
seabeyond
Aug 2015
#172
hehe, now, now, you be a good little girl, and listen to them. They know better what's good for you.
lunamagica
Aug 2015
#241
Then you haven't got *that* much interest in whether they're being "duped", have you?
sibelian
Sep 2015
#362
nothing disgusts me more than actual racism. because that kills, lynches, murders....
msanthrope
Aug 2015
#177
I was obviously referring to political tactics, and specifically to tactics within
cali
Aug 2015
#207
Pointing out white people's discomfort at being called out on their racism was the object of
msanthrope
Sep 2015
#256
how come we never discuss the sexism and good ole boy network clinton endured?
seabeyond
Sep 2015
#338
i often hear about racist dogwhistle to attack clinton. i never hear it mentioned they both played
seabeyond
Sep 2015
#354
I will vote for her because she's a woman or I will vote for him because he's black
Tierra_y_Libertad
Aug 2015
#193
no it is not. not even close. and if you need that explained to you, i do not have the time. nt
seabeyond
Aug 2015
#217
Hmmm. Someone didn't have the time to explain why the jury should hide that post.
beam me up scottie
Sep 2015
#250
so you call me out, accuse me of something. fuck that bullshit. how very very low can you go
seabeyond
Sep 2015
#288
bullshit... lookie, see no alerting. to your post that is false accusation, call out and insults.
seabeyond
Sep 2015
#294
Thank you for the motivation to make a decent size donation to the Clinton campaign
Gothmog
Aug 2015
#230