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Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
28. In her own words:
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 08:09 PM
Aug 2015

She sounds like the architect of a self-marginalizing movement:

If you think Ring of Fire is making this up, all you need to do is read the following writing by Alicia Garza, the co-founder of BLM, which full article is available at A Herstory of the #BlackLivesMatter Movement.

Below are just some of the quotes:

When you design an event / campaign / et cetera based on the work of queer Black women, don’t invite them to participate in shaping it, but ask them to provide materials and ideas for next steps for said event, that is racism in practice. It’s also hetero-patriarchal. Straight men, unintentionally or intentionally, have taken the work of queer Black women and erased our contributions. Perhaps if we were the charismatic Black men many are rallying around these days, it would have been a different story, but being Black queer women in this society (and apparently within these movements) tends to equal invisibility and non-relevancy.

We completely expect those who benefit directly and improperly from White supremacy to try and erase our existence. We fight that every day. But when it happens amongst our allies, we are baffled, we are saddened, and we are enraged. And it’s time to have the political conversation about why that’s not okay.

Black Lives Matter is a unique contribution that goes beyond extrajudicial killings of Black people by police and vigilantes. It goes beyond the narrow nationalism that can be prevalent within some Black communities, which merely call on Black people to love Black, live Black and buy Black, keeping straight Black men in the front of the movement while our sisters, queer and trans and disabled folk take up roles in the background or not at all. Black Lives Matter affirms the lives of Black queer and trans folks, disabled folks, Black-undocumented folks, folks with records, women and all Black lives along the gender spectrum. It centers those that have been marginalized within Black liberation movements. It is a tactic to (re)build the Black liberation movement. [As stated in WikiPedia, “The Black Liberation Army (BLA) was an underground, black nationalist militant organization that operated in the United States from 1970 to 1981. Composed largely of former Black Panthers (BPP), the organization’s program was one of ‘armed struggle’, and its stated goal was to ‘take up arms for the liberation and self-determination of black people in the United States.’ The BLA carried out a series of bombings, murders, robberies (what participants termed ‘expropriations’), and prison breaks.]

It is an acknowledgment that Black women continue to bear the burden of a relentless assault on our children and our families and that assault is an act of state violence. Black queer and trans folks bearing a unique burden in a hetero-patriarchal society that disposes of us like garbage and simultaneously fetishizes us and profits off of us is state violence; the fact that 500,000 Black people in the US are undocumented immigrants and relegated to the shadows is state violence; the fact that Black girls are used as negotiating chips during times of conflict and war is state violence; Black folks living with disabilities and different abilities bear the burden of state-sponsored Darwinian experiments that attempt to squeeze us into boxes of normality defined by White supremacy is state violence. And the fact is that the lives of Black people—not ALL people—exist within these conditions is consequence of state violence.

And, to keep it real–it is appropriate and necessary to have strategy and action centered around Blackness without other non-Black communities of color, or White folks for that matter, needing to find a place and a way to center themselves within it. It is appropriate and necessary for us to acknowledge the critical role that Black lives and struggles for Black liberation have played in inspiring and anchoring, through practice and theory, social movements for the liberation of all people. The women’s movement, the Chicano liberation movement, queer movements, and many more have adopted the strategies, tactics and theory of the Black liberation movement. And if we are committed to a world where all lives matter, we are called to support the very movement that inspired and activated so many more. That means supporting and acknowledging Black lives.

Progressive movements in the United States have made some unfortunate errors when they push for unity at the expense of really understanding the concrete differences in context, experience and oppression. In other words, some want unity without struggle. As people who have our minds stayed on freedom, we can learn to fight anti-Black racism by examining the ways in which we participate in it, even unintentionally, instead of the worn out and sloppy practice of drawing lazy parallels of unity between peoples with vastly different experiences and histories.

Please do not change the conversation by talking about how your life matters, too. It does, but we need less watered down unity and a more active solidarities with us, Black people, unwaveringly, in defense of our humanity. Our collective futures depend on it.

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As the founders of BLM make clear, the movement (from their perspective) is all about black women. Anyone such as Bernie Sanders who wants to raise the plight of all struggling Americans offends them. They want the sole focus to be on them. They don’t want a peaceful movement that follows the lead of Martin Luther King, Jr. Instead, they want a militant movement that follows the lead of the Black Panther Party.

This is why Bernie frightens the leadership of BLM so much, because he is creating a huge movement of destroying the present system, which racist system gives the leaders of BLM their voice. These same leaders rather keep the status quo. If we at Ring of Fire are wrong, then we ask them to stand up and take a very strong stance against what is occuring at these rallies, and to state what their true goals are, and how we can assist them to help struggling black Americans.


seems unfair to the Panthers--even James Cromwell sorta was one MisterP Aug 2015 #1
Yeah, I caught that about the Panthers too........ socialist_n_TN Aug 2015 #9
The "contingent" strike me as "hipsters" Aerows Aug 2015 #60
They DID..but the Execution of their Ideals caused problems "down the road"... KoKo Aug 2015 #73
So BLM is about black women? Specifically lesbian black women? sufrommich Aug 2015 #2
Amaxibg, isn't it? Gman Aug 2015 #14
Hard to forget this thread, isn't it? emulatorloo Nov 2016 #87
I don't agree with the premise in this piece that the Black Panthers were bad. m-lekktor Aug 2015 #3
I agree. The Panthers started food programs for kids in schools in Oakland. I had the sense they jalan48 Aug 2015 #17
I'm going to reserve comment. I do though want to mention that I hold those at ROF in high regard. n Snotcicles Aug 2015 #4
Keep the struggle going romanic Aug 2015 #5
K&R emsimon33 Aug 2015 #6
It's all about them, BLM is just their vehicle. HooptieWagon Aug 2015 #7
Like PUMA ? FreakinDJ Aug 2015 #8
Yup! You said the secret word! JackInGreen Aug 2015 #12
Exactly. HooptieWagon Aug 2015 #13
oh no the scary black lesbians JI7 Aug 2015 #10
Evil Power-Hungry Black Lesbians With a Secret Plot to Destroy America!1!!1! emulatorloo Aug 2015 #16
Trifecta! okasha Aug 2015 #20
Yup. Or it could be a reaction to be being called "white supremacist liberals"... truebrit71 Aug 2015 #22
Please explain okasha Aug 2015 #24
Why? I didn't make that comparison. You did. truebrit71 Aug 2015 #26
Your post 22. okasha Aug 2015 #27
You made the comparison. truebrit71 Aug 2015 #40
Your post 22. okasha Aug 2015 #46
Yes, they are 3 lesbians - so what? Elmer S. E. Dump Aug 2015 #61
Umm... Agschmid Aug 2015 #11
I cannot believe I'm reading any of this on a liberal board Gman Aug 2015 #15
I don't remember much about the Black Panthers, sadoldgirl Aug 2015 #19
Here 840high Aug 2015 #31
Thank you so much sadoldgirl Aug 2015 #34
Here's something I posted on another thread starroute Aug 2015 #44
Thank you. 840high Aug 2015 #47
I feel hoodwinked. 840high Aug 2015 #49
"Propaganda" because you dont like it? Can you refute the quotes? 7962 Aug 2015 #38
This explains some posts on DU that had me puzzled and one in particular that A Simple Game Aug 2015 #18
I'm not supportive of the Panther hate Hydra Aug 2015 #21
I would suggest that you read the whole sadoldgirl Aug 2015 #23
It was disturbing to read they don't want help from other POC or White (Progressives) KoKo Aug 2015 #43
I only have one tiny criticism. bvar22 Aug 2015 #63
Yes...I didn't make it clear enough about the good that came out of the 60's Movement... KoKo Aug 2015 #64
An edit is unnecessary. bvar22 Aug 2015 #65
...! Many seem to feel OWS didn't achieve anything... KoKo Aug 2015 #67
WoW DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #25
In her own words: Comrade Grumpy Aug 2015 #28
I'm glad you posted. Thank you. 840high Aug 2015 #32
Well fuck passiveporcupine Aug 2015 #50
That actually adds uite a bit of clarity. Doctor_J Aug 2015 #59
I don't take this as a slur...as you seem to...but, a reality that there are many people today KoKo Aug 2015 #48
I really like and respect ROF zentrum Aug 2015 #29
It's like they decided to embody the entire stereotype that BLM correctly pointed out. Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #30
Don't know if you have interest in this...but passing along... KoKo Aug 2015 #53
well this is one big mind-fuck. I have utmost respect for ROF and find this information bbgrunt Aug 2015 #33
I think so. ozone_man Aug 2015 #54
I don't understand the reasoning behind continuing to disrupt Bernie's events HoosierRadical Aug 2015 #35
There are plenty who make a living off of "racial problems". 7962 Aug 2015 #36
The irony is that if there was genuine racial comity and equality the reverend wouldn't exist... DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #39
Good Point......and that's why we need to work harder.. KoKo Aug 2015 #55
+1 Jamaal510 Aug 2015 #70
any and all of them may have potential lucrative careers waiting stupidicus Aug 2015 #37
Is BLM the NRA of this election cycle . . . MrModerate Aug 2015 #41
Wow. Now they're going to blame LESBIANS for this? pnwmom Aug 2015 #42
reads from the beginning like a right-wing manifesto bigtree Aug 2015 #45
Passing this along...You might find it interesting, or not..but, worth a read, I think: KoKo Aug 2015 #52
good read, KoKo bigtree Aug 2015 #56
It goes into more. KoKo Aug 2015 #57
what I'm saying is that I'm more inclined to agree with the movement bigtree Aug 2015 #58
Practicallity and Principles of Conduct are STILL IMPORTANT KoKo Aug 2015 #72
Women, Sexuality and the Black Panther Party DhhD Aug 2015 #51
Evidence? jmondine Aug 2015 #62
BLM 'leadership' is doing more damage to their own organization than to Bernie AgingAmerican Aug 2015 #66
Hi!!! bravenak Oct 2015 #75
Thanks and we knew something was very wrong from the beginning. sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #68
Advocating xxxxx Power is not a good sign seveneyes Aug 2015 #69
K&R! KoKo Aug 2015 #71
Zombie thread needs kicking! bravenak Oct 2015 #74
Why? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2015 #78
Because people are two faced bravenak Oct 2015 #81
Doesn't seem right to me HassleCat Oct 2015 #76
It's also from months ago. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2015 #80
It is a history lesson, and a good thing to keep in mind these days emulatorloo Nov 2015 #86
. RandySF Oct 2015 #77
Links don't work stevil Oct 2015 #79
Yes, to their credit, they took it down pretty quickly emulatorloo Nov 2015 #85
I always sort of liked the Black Panthers tularetom Oct 2015 #82
Complete made up paranoid horseshit. portlander23 Oct 2015 #83
Do any of you even know what "centering" means in this context? Zenlitened Oct 2015 #84
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