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leftynyc

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49. No - I wouldn't lose my mind at all

Thu Jun 7, 2012, 11:38 AM

Jun 2012

I've been following politics way too long to let a politician get to me. They all make deals. If it gets the issue off the table when other things are so important, I'm good with that. I'm far more concerned with the pubs war on women than I am about tax cuts. Far, far more concerned.

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Is Bill Clinton Deliberately Sabotaging Barack Obama? [View all] Purveyor Jun 2012 OP

Jesse Jackson won in South Carolina, too! MjolnirTime Jun 2012 #1

YES!!!!! Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2012 #2

He went off message when he was EC Jun 2012 #3

YES!!! ABSOLUTELY!!! Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2012 #5

I'm not willing to call it sabotage. Wait Wut Jun 2012 #4

Or, having his words taken out of context. GoCubsGo Jun 2012 #32

Yeah...I saw that, too. Wait Wut Jun 2012 #33

He's not sabotaging Obama, he's just being stupid. That's it. nt boxman15 Jun 2012 #6

The former president had his share of character flaws... FBaggins Jun 2012 #17

Not saying President Clinton is stupid. boxman15 Jun 2012 #29

He IS smarter than this. FBaggins Jun 2012 #35

He's allowed to express his own opinion Cali_Democrat Jun 2012 #7

I don't think anyone is saying otherwise, but thanks for the legal reminder. nt ZombieHorde Jun 2012 #9

No problem! Cali_Democrat Jun 2012 #12

Or is Barack Obama on board, but politicking by saying otherwise? Lionessa Jun 2012 #8

And so did Bill Clinton but you say nothing about that. Just bash the president!! Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2012 #15

Clearly I'm unhappy with both. Deal with it. Lionessa Jun 2012 #21

No! This country has to deal with it! These policies are destroying it! Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2012 #22

Policies of every president since Reagan are destroying it, have been, and apparently will continue Lionessa Jun 2012 #30

The Job Creators Hooey otohara Jun 2012 #10

Sabotaging Obama by saying it "would be calamitous for the country to elect Romney"? FSogol Jun 2012 #11

I think a part of him is, yes... Drunken Irishman Jun 2012 #13

"doesn't want to see Obama win because it might damage his legacy" FSogol Jun 2012 #14

I don't think it's childish. I think it's human... Drunken Irishman Jun 2012 #19

I wouldn't say childish, but selfish, yah Whisp Jun 2012 #37

You nailed it!! Happydayz Jun 2012 #18

This message was self-deleted by its author progressoid Jun 2012 #16

I can't believe people are getting leftynyc Jun 2012 #20

I can walk and chew gum at the same time. Yes, Romney is a joke. And... Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2012 #23

So you must also believe that the President leftynyc Jun 2012 #24

Yes, in a way, I believe that President Obama has been incredibly naive, from Day 1 Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2012 #26

+1 Lionessa Jun 2012 #31

This message was self-deleted by its author AtomicKitten Jun 2012 #71

I don't know, lefty. Seems Clinton has to walk back a lot of statements... Drunken Irishman Jun 2012 #25

I think if every one of my statements leftynyc Jun 2012 #27

That's why we're not in politics... Drunken Irishman Jun 2012 #28

Link, I've never heard that Clinton is the most popular politician in this country.lol Happydayz Jun 2012 #36

Yeah - I'm sure it's just the people leftynyc Jun 2012 #41

Oh, you care alright Happydayz Jun 2012 #57

Nonsense - that is all I have to say about that (n/t) leftynyc Jun 2012 #59

Clinton is the most popular politician in the country because he is good at selling himself... Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2012 #38

And if he wasn't out there shilling leftynyc Jun 2012 #42

Well, if he essentially agrees with Republicans--which you have apparently given him a pass for Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2012 #44

No - I wouldn't lose my mind at all leftynyc Jun 2012 #49

I have followed and been very active in politics my entire life, too! These are NOT mistakes! Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2012 #51

And that's where you lose me leftynyc Jun 2012 #54

You admitted upthread that he stated his opinion. Either it's an opinion or a mistake. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2012 #56

Please have a little compassion for the Old Dog. bvar22 Jun 2012 #34

old dog???? greymattermom Jun 2012 #43

Thank you! You are absolutely on point! And at least you're consistent... Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2012 #45

If Clinton wanted to sabotage Obama center rising Jun 2012 #39

He tried...and failed! You didn't have a problem with him going on Faux News, Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2012 #46

He didn't try to sabotage Obama. Beacool Jun 2012 #64

Hi Beacool! Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2012 #68

And so are yours, my friend. Beacool Jun 2012 #69

We argue and don't agree but we're still on the same team. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2012 #70

NO, he actually believes that tax cuts should be extended temprarily even for the wealthiest. That Douglas Carpenter Jun 2012 #40

And inconsistent with Barack Obama. And if they can't get on the same page, him being Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2012 #47

What other KEY PLANK items leftynyc Jun 2012 #50

Wait just one minute: If the Democratic Party has a fundamental philosophy that tax cuts for Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2012 #52

He has stated that he thinks leftynyc Jun 2012 #53

I'm not talking about "keeping pure" at all. I'm talking about a central Democratic Party Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2012 #55

I'm not even sure what the Democrats leftynyc Jun 2012 #58

You're being willfully ignorant. You know exactly what I'm talking about, lefty. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2012 #62

I really don't leftynyc Jun 2012 #65

No. yellowcanine Jun 2012 #48

Clinton can say whatever the hell he wants to say. Beacool Jun 2012 #60

Bill knows better than anyone that everything he says can and will be misinterpreted. MjolnirTime Jun 2012 #67

Call it what you will, he's undermining the Obama campaign message. AtomicKitten Jun 2012 #61

+1 n/t JTFrog Jun 2012 #63

Bill Clinton is DLC, 1%er all the way. DCKit Jun 2012 #66