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Arneoker

(375 posts)
5. They had government sponsored health insurance before ACA, the same as all Federal Employees.
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 08:41 PM
Oct 2013

And basically the same as anyone else with employer sponsored insurance. But during the Congressional deliberations over ACA Senator Grassley decided to grandstand, and dare the Democrats to force Congress and staffers to go on the exchanges, meant for those without employer sponsored insurance. The Democrats took the bait, but the understanding was that the government would still provide subsidies equivalent to what the government was chipping in to buy their employees health insurance, to buy insurance on the exchanges. But now the hypocritical jerk Tea Taxers are screaming that's "special treatment." What they are really demanding is that Congress and staffers need a cut in their health benefits (against the 27th Amendment, until after the next election, if you are talking about Congress). Now that would be fine for the many super rich who are in Congress, but for those staffers and Congresspeople who earn little outside of their salaries, we are talking about a pretty substantial cut in benefits.

Ask your Republican friends with employer sponsored health insurance to give it up, as "that would be only fair."

Why is Congress exempt from ACA [View all] FLyellowdog Oct 2013 OP
That and the 27th Amendment jberryhill Oct 2013 #1
The 27th is what they are talking about. FLyellowdog Oct 2013 #2
Changing their insurance would be a change in compensation jberryhill Oct 2013 #3
True...and one is a beloved relative. FLyellowdog Oct 2013 #4
They had government sponsored health insurance before ACA, the same as all Federal Employees. Arneoker Oct 2013 #5
Thanks. I think I'm getting the hang of it. *sigh* FLyellowdog Oct 2013 #9
Tell em Republicans did not want to be covered by ACA, and Obama caved. Hoyt Oct 2013 #6
Exactly! procon Oct 2013 #7
I agree.nt FLyellowdog Oct 2013 #8
Congress, the President are NOT exempt from the ACA!! It's a lie!!!! Liberal_Stalwart71 Oct 2013 #10
OP: Please see my post #10. It is absolutely NOT true that the President, Congress is exempt!! Liberal_Stalwart71 Oct 2013 #11
Yes, I know it's not true, FLyellowdog Oct 2013 #12
Congress is exempt only to the same degree that I am exempt. JayhawkSD Oct 2013 #13
Thanks. nt FLyellowdog Oct 2013 #14
CONGRESS IS NOT EXEMPT!! This is a lie that Republicans keep repeating!!!!! Liberal_Stalwart71 Oct 2013 #16
Don't shout at me. JayhawkSD Oct 2013 #17
Not shouting at you. I'm trying to make this point clear because people keep repeating the falsehood Liberal_Stalwart71 Oct 2013 #21
Read what I said and try to understand English. JayhawkSD Oct 2013 #35
No!! They are not covered by employer-provided insurance unless by employer-based, Liberal_Stalwart71 Oct 2013 #37
From NPR discussion JayhawkSD Oct 2013 #43
This is no different than what I've been arguing. Yes, they get subsidies from the govern Liberal_Stalwart71 Oct 2013 #44
From Healthcare.gov JayhawkSD Oct 2013 #45
My responses after yours... Liberal_Stalwart71 Oct 2013 #48
But Congress is required to go thru ACA now. FLyellowdog Oct 2013 #46
Congress is not exempt. They have to buy from the exchanges. SunSeeker Oct 2013 #15
THIS! Drahthaardogs Oct 2013 #18
The reason why they should go through the exchanges is because they originally had their health Liberal_Stalwart71 Oct 2013 #22
My husband was a federal employee and we paid LOTS for our health coverage. FLyellowdog Oct 2013 #25
Yes, yes!! That's right! That's what I've been trying to explain, but perhaps not as clearly as you Liberal_Stalwart71 Oct 2013 #33
you do not know what the hell you are talking about Drahthaardogs Oct 2013 #29
Making shit up? I fucking work for the federal government. I know what the hell I'm talking about. Liberal_Stalwart71 Oct 2013 #30
You know nothing... Drahthaardogs Oct 2013 #39
They receive subsidies to pay for their healthcare, just like I do as a federal employee. Liberal_Stalwart71 Oct 2013 #40
Bullshit. You said it was ALL paid for by the taxpayer. Drahthaardogs Oct 2013 #41
Subsidy = Federal government = taxpayer. Comprehende? IGNORE!!! Liberal_Stalwart71 Oct 2013 #42
Thank you. There was that dumb RW email about how we have to stop Congress Dark n Stormy Knight Oct 2013 #34
FINALLY, I think you've helped me. FLyellowdog Oct 2013 #19
Yes, you are right. Congressional staff are being unfairly treated. They can go through the exchange Liberal_Stalwart71 Oct 2013 #23
THIS^2!!!! apnu Oct 2013 #36
They aren't exempt!!! Hippo_Tron Oct 2013 #20
Hey LS, like you I get FEHB (in my case because I am a federal retiree) Arneoker Oct 2013 #24
You are exactly correct. And those people in this thread who are attacking me need to get their shit Liberal_Stalwart71 Oct 2013 #31
I forgot to answer your question, but yes, I'm almost 100% sure that most Liberal_Stalwart71 Oct 2013 #38
Congress exempts themselves from everything but lots of taxpayer-paid perks. nt valerief Oct 2013 #26
Essentially correct, elleng Oct 2013 #27
15 Myths The Media Should Ignore During Obamacare Implementation Agnosticsherbet Oct 2013 #28
Thank God for Media Matters. I posted this upthread, so thank you! Liberal_Stalwart71 Oct 2013 #32
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2013 #47
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